The Green Rise in Canada

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, -1=e^ipi said:

But if the goal is redistribution of income, then it would be far more efficient to increase the GST, which has a lower cost to the economy, and use the additional revenues to create a universal basic income.

Right so the carbon tax comes back to taking income from people.  It’s just another left wing income redistribution plan that amounts to a big grant to urban dwellers and a gouging of country folk. Urban versus rural.  Sounds like a tax urban elites would like. 

[egghead]

more like the rise of the idiots 

 

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, -1=e^ipi said:

But if the goal is redistribution of income

/facepalm

[-1=e^ipi]

I was responding to Jacee's comment... please understand the context.

[jacee]

On 6/11/2019 at 8:10 PM, Zeitgeist said:

Right so the carbon tax comes back to taking income from people.  It’s just another left wing income redistribution plan that amounts to a big grant to urban dwellers and a gouging of country folk. Urban versus rural.  Sounds like a tax urban elites would like. 

Wow, you're really having trouble figuring out the carbon tax-and-rebate program! 

Carbon tax is estimated usage. Rebates are based on taxable income, so wealthy folks "urban elites" get lower rebates on a sliding scale, and lower net income people get more back.

If you're earning near minimum wage, it's a net gain and it helps people with transportation costs to afford to keep working. 

Your urban-rural difference claim is just nonsense, political divisiveness, schilling for Conservatives.

Edited June 13, 2019 by jacee

[Zeitgeist]

28 minutes ago, jacee said:

Wow, you're really having trouble figuring out the carbon tax-and-rebate program! 

Carbon tax is estimated usage. Rebates are based on taxable income, so wealthy folks "urban elites" get lower rebates on a sliding scale, and lower net income people get more back.

If you're earning near minimum wage, it's a net gain and it helps people with transportation costs to afford to keep working. 

Your urban-rural difference claim is just nonsense, political divisiveness, schilling for Conservatives.

Show me proof that an urban dweller without a vehicle doesn’t get the rebate. 

[jacee]

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

Show me proof that an urban dweller without a vehicle doesn’t get the rebate. 

Rebate depends on Taxable income which is, on average, higher for "urban elites" than "rural folk", wouldn't you say?

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2019/05/24/almost-everyone-who-is-eligible-97-per-cent-has-claimed-the-carbon-price-rebate-on-their-taxes-so-far-this-year.html

 

[Argus]

On 5/10/2019 at 9:45 PM, -1=e^ipi said:

All of the parties have weak, and often inconsistent, arguments on climate change. Given the arguments available, the greens arguably have the most convincing/best arguments. They will continue to gain power as long as their narrative is not adequately challenged; this will not happen any time in the near future.

The problem is that the media together with the Liberal government, have succeeded in creating a false narrative about climate change to the point a lot of people who aren't even sub-literate cretins seem to believe that the fate of the world rests on Canada destroying its oil industry and taxing the rest of its industries into bankruptcy. 

Note. None of them believe this will adversely affect THEIR lives. And if you tell them it will cost tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of jobs they'll smile happily, delighted. They feel those people who work for resource industries are BAD people and deserve to have their lives destroyed. They only care about GOOD people, who are urban progressives who cry a lot and have zero interest in what happens beyond their city's boundaries except for their noble causes, like transgenderism and climate change and protecting Islam.