eyeball Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 10:44 AM, paxamericana said: My beef is with people who criticize American hegemony and run to america asking for aid when the baddies bully them... like how hypocritical can you get. You can be a shiny beacon for liberty while siccing dictators on people...you have no sense of how ridiculous you look when you turn to the world with a proverbial "what", do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) On 1/15/2019 at 11:16 AM, Zeitgeist said: I don’t criticize American power as a force for good. With power comes responsibility. Anyone with power can abuse people for selfish gain. History is full of stories of misused power. The challenge is to show restraint when necessary and exert power for the right reasons. It’s basically the same function as being an authoritative parent. Except in this case the parent is all too often comparable to a dangerously out of control drunk. The appropriate function then is to intervene. That's why I often say friends don't let friends drive for a reason when talking about our relationship with the uncouth barbarians to the south of us. Edited January 24, 2019 by eyeball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 American power since 1945 has for all intents and purposes been projected by way of liberal international institutions. Particularly as to military power by the United Nations, by either UNSC Chapter 7 Resolution and/or UN Article 51 Declaration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: American power since 1945 has for all intents and purposes been projected by way of liberal international institutions. Particularly as to military power by the United Nations, by either UNSC Chapter 7 Resolution and/or UN Article 51 Declaration. Blaming lefties...how quaint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: Blaming lefties...how quaint. Classically liberal, which is well to the right of the Commune and associated Terror, see; John Locke, Adam Smith, David Hume, Edmund Burke, etcetera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iznogoud Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: Classically liberal, which is well to the right of the Commune and associated Terror, see; John Locke, Adam Smith, David Hume, Edmund Burke, etcetera Yes, I have noticed that classical liberalism, which actually resembles modern conservatism, is often confused with modern liberalism, which leans toward democratic socialism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Classically liberal, which is well to the right of the Commune and associated Terror, see; John Locke, Adam Smith, David Hume, Edmund Burke, etcetera Of course...So you're saying the UN isn't the ground zero of communist terrorism? See Pol Pot, Mao, Trudeau etc etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 Classical liberalism is the definition of modern conservatism. Democratic socialism is simply bourgeois socialists who do not have the courage of their convictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, eyeball said: Of course...So you're saying the UN isn't the ground zero of communist terrorism? See Pol Pot, Mao, Trudeau etc etc? The UN is a debating club, the Security Council however, enforces Chapter 7 and Article 51, which are the international legal underpinnings for armed conflict in the American Hegenomy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, Dougie93 said: ...the Security Council however, enforces Chapter 7 and Article 51, which are the international legal underpinnings for armed conflict in the American Hegenomy. Nah, the UN security council is just the lipstick the pig wears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: Nah, the UN security council is just the lipstick the pig wears. Circular logic is just the static between cogent posts to any particular purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Circular logic is just the static between cogent posts to any particular purpose. Who'd know better than you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: Who'd know better than you? All assertions are testable, I've asserted nothing which is not documented online by exponential means, simplest being to google "UN Charter" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, eyeball said: Except in this case the parent is all too often comparable to a dangerously out of control drunk. The appropriate function then is to intervene. That's why I often say friends don't let friends drive for a reason when talking about our relationship with the uncouth barbarians to the south of us. Actions speak louder than words...as in all those uranium shipments since WW2, complimented by dilbit supplied by pipelines enthusiatically built going south. Driving drunk is far easier when "friends" supply the liquor to make money. Edited January 24, 2019 by bush_cheney2004 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Actions speak louder than words...as in all those uranium shipments since WW2, complimented by dilbit supplied by pipelines enthusiatically built going south. Driving drunk is far easier when "friends" supply the liquor to make money. What drunk driving tho? The purpose of an Hegenomy to wit, Superpower, is to prevent and preclude major interstate wars. By way of Dr. Teller, the American Hegenomy is in fact the first in history to ever rise to the occasion. Such a Hegemon is of course welcome to her whiskey, if only to toast a job well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: What drunk driving tho? The purpose of an Hegenomy to wit, Superpower, is to prevent and preclude major interstate wars. By way of Dr. Teller, the American Hegenomy is in fact the first in history to ever rise to the occasion. Such a Hegemon is of course welcome to her whiskey, if only to toast a job well done. True...but even when the hegemon outlawed real whiskey, Canada was more than happy to smuggle plenty across the border. Such is the nature of the CanAm relationship, no matter what the America haters may say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: True...but even when the hegemon outlawed real whiskey, Canada was more than happy to smuggle plenty across the border. Such is the nature of the CanAm relationship, no matter what the America haters may say. Prohibition, the battle for the soul of the nation from the Great Awakening on. I of course stand against the Dry's and their hachetation, death to the Temperance Lady I say, to the lampposts with her. None the less, she brought herself down, by corrupting all governance in the nation, the same way that Canadian Confederation cripples British North America. To save the nation, the Dry's were brought to heel. A clarity act in effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 To the point tho; from 1918 to 2018, there were but thirteen days wherein the American Hegenomy tarried at the breach, and was John Kennedy who got us into it, but was John Kennedy who got us out as well, so that's even steven, no harm no foul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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