Guest Posted November 23, 2018 Report Posted November 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Don Jonas said: God is a word that describes the force that created the universe. The true nature of this force may be beyond our ken, but it is linked to our psyche and our capacity to generate love (ergo, we are created in His image). Oh, you mean the Big Bang! Why didn't you say so? I don't see the love connection though... And if we were created in it's image, wouldn't we take up more space, and find it more difficult to keep food down? Quote
Don Jonas Posted November 23, 2018 Report Posted November 23, 2018 You don't see love? I see it everywhere. I think your concept of love is probably actually similar to mine, as is your concept of your own psyche, which exists on a natural (or what you might mistakenly call supernatural), separate plane from the rest of our physical existence. And maybe our conceptions of what I call God and you call the Big Bang are not that different, once we dig deeper. Both are concepts of a mysterious force that is difficult for us to imagine. Quote
Guest Posted November 23, 2018 Report Posted November 23, 2018 28 minutes ago, Don Jonas said: You don't see love? I see it everywhere. I think your concept of love is probably actually similar to mine, as is your concept of your own psyche, which exists on a natural (or what you might mistakenly call supernatural), separate plane from the rest of our physical existence. And maybe our conceptions of what I call God and you call the Big Bang are not that different, once we dig deeper. Both are concepts of a mysterious force that is difficult for us to imagine. I didn't say I didn't see love. I said I didn't see the connection. As a lapsed RC I have been informed of the connection many times. I still don't see it. It's all just chemistry to me. Quote
Don Jonas Posted November 23, 2018 Report Posted November 23, 2018 It is all "just" chemistry, but doesn't the undeniable existence of that psyche in your skull give you a sense of more than just chemistry? Quote
Guest Posted November 23, 2018 Report Posted November 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, Don Jonas said: It is all "just" chemistry, but doesn't the undeniable existence of that psyche in your skull give you a sense of more than just chemistry? Granted it's complicated. Philosophers through the ages haven't been able to define or explain it so I sure can't. I'm not going with the "God" answer though. I think it takes more effort than that. Quote
Wilber Posted November 24, 2018 Report Posted November 24, 2018 When it comes to unconditional love, no human can match a dog. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Guest Posted November 24, 2018 Report Posted November 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Wilber said: When it comes to unconditional love, no human can match a dog. And dog is god backwards!!! Cue Twilight Zone theme... Quote
Wilber Posted November 24, 2018 Report Posted November 24, 2018 Isn’t that what the dyslexic agnostic said? Is there a dog? Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
DogOnPorch Posted November 24, 2018 Report Posted November 24, 2018 11 hours ago, bcsapper said: And dog is god backwards!!! Cue Twilight Zone theme... Thank-you. 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted November 24, 2018 Report Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, bcsapper said: Granted it's complicated. Philosophers through the ages haven't been able to define or explain it so I sure can't. I'm not going with the "God" answer though. I think it takes more effort than that. It's not so complicated that science can't explain it, I'd suggest reading The Feeling Of What Happens: Body, Emotion and the Making of Consciousness by neuroscientist Antonio Damasio,. Its a bit of a slog but this book can do more to strip away the fanciful albeit inappropriate notions that result in the confusion about what we are. This knowledge coupled with our knowledge of astrophysics gives us a pretty clear explanation where and what we are. It really doesn't take much effort to get your head around your own mind - that said keep a dictionary handy when reading Damasio's book. Edited November 24, 2018 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
French Patriot Posted November 24, 2018 Author Report Posted November 24, 2018 23 hours ago, Don Jonas said: Jesus is love Jesus is a person to most. Love is a concept to most. Are you saying that Jesus is a concept that humans call love? If not, you make no sense at all. Regards DL Quote
French Patriot Posted November 24, 2018 Author Report Posted November 24, 2018 23 hours ago, Don Jonas said: You're saying love doesn't exist? It does and I can prove it ?? So can I, so get the quote to this lie that you put. Regards DL Quote
French Patriot Posted November 24, 2018 Author Report Posted November 24, 2018 16 hours ago, Wilber said: When it comes to unconditional love, no human can match a dog. Why would anyone want to? Is that what you aspire to think like? Let's chat. Woof woof woof ruff woof. Regards DL Quote
French Patriot Posted November 24, 2018 Author Report Posted November 24, 2018 13 hours ago, Wilber said: Isn’t that what the dyslexic agnostic said? Is there a dog? Dogs wish to serve man. Do you see your God as our servant or our master? Regards DL Quote
Wilber Posted November 24, 2018 Report Posted November 24, 2018 2 hours ago, French Patriot said: Dogs wish to serve man. Do you see your God as our servant or our master? Regards DL Neither, I don't have one. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
French Patriot Posted November 25, 2018 Author Report Posted November 25, 2018 21 hours ago, Wilber said: Neither, I don't have one. Perhaps. Regards DL Quote
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