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On 11/1/2018 at 2:08 PM, h102 said:

So am I, but the facts are unchanged.

If you are thenĀ again you have no idea. The last government killed a lot of business and ford is at least giving us a chance to succeed again in the is province. Put down the toronto star and maybe just maybe you will learn what is really going on.

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53 minutes ago, PIK said:

He can't ,he is just a troll,he has no idea what goes on in the real world.

Well, he has had plenty of time to show me something but so far nuttin'. A troll maybe but definitelyĀ a leftist liberal for sureĀ who truly appears to not live in the real world anymore. This is what happens to people who take up the banner ofĀ  liberalism and communism and commit to those ism's and add them into their not so interesting and boring lives. Reality and commonĀ sense and logic immediately disappears. Aw well.Ā :DĀ 

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On 11/2/2018 at 12:57 PM, PIK said:

If you are thenĀ again you have no idea. The last government killed a lot of business and ford is at least giving us a chance to succeed again in the is province. Put down the toronto star and maybe just maybe you will learn what is really going on.

The liberal leftist Toronto Star is about the worse piece of rag that anyone with half a brain would want toĀ bother to read what that piece of crap news outlet has to say. At least the Toronto Sun and Brian Lilley hasĀ more class and integrity thanĀ the commie Toronto Star has. Wynne has pretty much destroyed Ontario for good. It will be hard for a guy like conservative Doug Ford to try and repair the damage that biotch has doneĀ to Ontario and it's economy. Give a liberal the reins of power and it is good bye toĀ ones tax dollars and the economy. Liberals believe that a socialist/communist multicultural /diversity and sex gender economy programs and agendas is the way to go. The more government the better they say. I say puke to that.Ā :DĀ 

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On ā€Ž10ā€Ž/ā€Ž23ā€Ž/ā€Ž2018 at 7:59 PM, h102 said:

Doug Ford is rolling back rights and wages of the poorest Ontarians while cutting taxes for the richest Ontarians, FOR THE PEOPLE!

Give it a break comrade. He might steal your twinky or swiss roll if you leave it out but not the above. Wages are determined by global forces and supply and demand not the fat guy. Do they teach you any economics to go along with that Marxism?

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On 12/5/2018 at 7:46 AM, Rue said:

Give it a break comrade. He might steal your twinky or swiss roll if you leave it out but not the above. Wages are determined by global forces and supply and demand not the fat guy. Do they teach you any economics to go along with that Marxism?

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/ontario-government-to-halt-minimum-wage-hike-set-to-kick-in-next-year-1.4110161

He is not rolling back but won't continue the increase

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TORONTO -- Ontario's Progressive Conservative government said it will halt a planned increase to minimum wage that was scheduled to kick in next year, following up on a promise made during the spring election campaign.

Labour Minister Laurie Scott said Wednesday the minimum wage will remain at $14 an hour rather than rising to $15 as planned by the previous Liberal government.

The minister would not say whether the minimum wage would eventually go up, saying only that the government was conducting consultations on the issue.

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On 12/2/2018 at 7:28 PM, Machjo said:

Raising the minimum wage raises the cost of livnig. It's a matter of the dog chasing its tail.

Doug Ford is doing what every honest and caring politicianĀ should be doing with taxpayer's tax dollars? Looking after the taxpayer's tax dollars and not blowing them as that leftist liberal biotch Wynne did inĀ Ontario and Trudeau is doing every day. At this meeting in Montreal today(as just about all meetings in Canada happen in quebec the only province in Canada)Doug Ford wants to talk about the carbon tax or as some call it just another tax grab, and about immigration, and job losses while this fool of a prime mistake wants the meeting to be all about carbon taxes and show no concern about illegal immigration. Scheer has a golden opportunity to bring down trudeau for all the stupid things he keeps doing but he just keeps lettingĀ him get away with them all. Trump got to be President because he said that he was there for we the people and not the government. Scheer is a disappointment to conservatives and the conservative party because the guy is just like Trudeau, a politically correct buffoon, who has nothing to offer we the people but probably more of the same old crap if he becomes the next prime mistake of Canada. The dog(Canada)has been running around for several decades now running around and keeps chasing after it's out of control spinning Canadian tail.Ā Ā LOL.Ā 

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On ā€Ž12ā€Ž/ā€Ž6ā€Ž/ā€Ž2018 at 2:41 PM, GostHacked said:

True but how much control does Fatso have on that. The lack of increase in wages which is under the rate of inflation and is a serious concern for the Bank of Canada is a phenomena very much outside his control. Interestingly the banking industry is worried because they want to start raising interest rates but with people's wages well under recession increases and not keeping up if they raise interest rates, they could trigger a domino effectĀ  of mortgage collapses and bankruptcies of small businesses. So it is an interesting mess and if you think the current federal government has a clue about the fiscal mess it has created forget about it.

Two things for sure. The unemployment rate that was just announced is not accurate. It does not reflect a permanent unemployed class of once working Canadians who exhausted their unemployment insurance and so no longer show up on the unemployment stats. It also does not reflect underemployed individuals even with part-time worker stats.

In fact the current government and no further government should be allowed to report the unemployment rates the way they do. It does not reflect the many people on welfare. homeless and unemployed. and people living off of family members or who have taken student loans to avoid being broke.

That said Ford is not the one who created Ontario's chronic dependence on the automobile sector and that chronic dependence is going to in the next 10 to 30 years hurt as it shrinks and transforms into a much smaller decentralized specialized industry run by computer giants not the current car manufacturers.

Ontario is shifting like the world to economic activity which requires longer education, specialized technology that has to be constantly updated and many more people put out of work by technology. We see it now. We see the number of manual labour jobs shrinking and no one survives today on minimum wage fast food jobs alone.

The current average Canadian salary is $30 an hour. That is tough in Toronto, Van and Mtl or other big cities.

I am not sure trying toĀ  blame fatso is realistic. He inherits a world economy, federal policies which inherently clash with provincial ones, and issues he did not create and probably can not stop. I am not even a Ford supporter...but fair is fair. I supported Ms. Mulroney. What do I know.

We have no choice but to face cut backs in the provincial civil service, cut backs to education (now being replaced by a huge influx of foreign students paying cash, i.e., 30 thou per year at community colleges and only too happy to), probably unpopular cut backs in social services. He's not going to be popular at all when the economic mess Wynne left behind has to be addressed but its theĀ  price we pay for her spending like a Trudeauite. Whoever comes after Trudeau inherits the same huge deficits and damage that has caused.

The idea a politician comes in on a horse and presto is a messiah and saves your job is bull shit. Its not possible. Vladimir Lenin is not coming to save us.

That said, Doug is fat and its a source for many future comments by me. He barely fits in his suits. He looks like he is about to explode. He kind of looks like a huge bull frog who just came out of a tanning salon. I love the Mel Lastman tan, the WWEĀ  blonde Rick Flair hair cut, the Cheshire grin. He definitely eats children and live goats. Ā We went from aĀ  bony skeleton who looked like Jane Hathaway from the Beverly Hillbillies to the Cheshire Cat from Alice in Wonderland. The visuals are stunning.

It"s hilarious when he stands next to Trudeau. He tries to stand sideways to not look as fat and short. Look with Justin, Justin wears his pants up to his arm pits and has girl hips.

Now I have nothing on girl hips but if you look carefully Trudeau has the same hips as Kim Kardasian.Ā  This is not good.

Also I would love to see fearless leader Kim of North Korea, Don Trump and Dougie Ford get together for a fried chicken show down.

One other thing. That poorĀ  Premier of Alberta looks like she has been on a crack cocaine binge for days withoutĀ  sleep. I feel for her fiscal mess.

As for the guy in Saskatchewan, his last name . Moe is appropriate. Doug can be Larry and that guy from Quebec can be Curly. Yuck yuck.

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6 hours ago, Rue said:

True but how much control does Fatso have on that. The lack of increase in wages which is under the rate of inflation and is a serious concern for the Bank of Canada is a phenomena very much outside his control. Interestingly the banking industry is worried because they want to start raising interest rates but with people's wages well under recession increases and not keeping up if they raise interest rates, they could trigger a domino effectĀ  of mortgage collapses and bankruptcies of small businesses. So it is an interesting mess and if you think the current federal government has a clue about the fiscal mess it has created forget about it.

Two things for sure. The unemployment rate that was just announced is not accurate. It does not reflect a permanent unemployed class of once working Canadians who exhausted their unemployment insurance and so no longer show up on the unemployment stats. It also does not reflect underemployed individuals even with part-time worker stats.

In fact the current government and no further government should be allowed to report the unemployment rates the way they do. It does not reflect the many people on welfare. homeless and unemployed. and people living off of family members or who have taken student loans to avoid being broke.

That said Ford is not the one who created Ontario's chronic dependence on the automobile sector and that chronic dependence is going to in the next 10 to 30 years hurt as it shrinks and transforms into a much smaller decentralized specialized industry run by computer giants not the current car manufacturers.

Ontario is shifting like the world to economic activity which requires longer education, specialized technology that has to be constantly updated and many more people put out of work by technology. We see it now. We see the number of manual labour jobs shrinking and no one survives today on minimum wage fast food jobs alone.

The current average Canadian salary is $30 an hour. That is tough in Toronto, Van and Mtl or other big cities.

I am not sure trying toĀ  blame fatso is realistic. He inherits a world economy, federal policies which inherently clash with provincial ones, and issues he did not create and probably can not stop. I am not even a Ford supporter...but fair is fair. I supported Ms. Mulroney. What do I know.

We have no choice but to face cut backs in the provincial civil service, cut backs to education (now being replaced by a huge influx of foreign students paying cash, i.e., 30 thou per year at community colleges and only too happy to), probably unpopular cut backs in social services. He's not going to be popular at all when the economic mess Wynne left behind has to be addressed but its theĀ  price we pay for her spending like a Trudeauite. Whoever comes after Trudeau inherits the same huge deficits and damage that has caused.

The idea a politician comes in on a horse and presto is a messiah and saves your job is bull shit. Its not possible. Vladimir Lenin is not coming to save us.

That said, Doug is fat and its a source for many future comments by me. He barely fits in his suits. He looks like he is about to explode. He kind of looks like a huge bull frog who just came out of a tanning salon. I love the Mel Lastman tan, the WWEĀ  blonde Rick Flair hair cut, the Cheshire grin. He definitely eats children and live goats. Ā We went from aĀ  bony skeleton who looked like Jane Hathaway from the Beverly Hillbillies to the Cheshire Cat from Alice in Wonderland. The visuals are stunning.

It"s hilarious when he stands next to Trudeau. He tries to stand sideways to not look as fat and short. Look with Justin, Justin wears his pants up to his arm pits and has girl hips.

Now I have nothing on girl hips but if you look carefully Trudeau has the same hips as Kim Kardasian.Ā  This is not good.

Also I would love to see fearless leader Kim of North Korea, Don Trump and Dougie Ford get together for a fried chicken show down.

One other thing. That poorĀ  Premier of Alberta looks like she has been on a crack cocaine binge for days withoutĀ  sleep. I feel for her fiscal mess.

As for the guy in Saskatchewan, his last name . Moe is appropriate. Doug can be Larry and that guy from Quebec can be Curly. Yuck yuck.

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I will take "fatso" any day rather than your dear leader prime mistake of Canada anytime. At least Ford gives a chit about Ontario and even Canada while all your dear leader does best is to to try and promote more immigration and more sexual perversion work projects. Calling Ford "fatso" just shows as to where your loyalties lie? With leftist liberal bull chit. The Toronto Star is not much of a rag to want to listen too or read unless you are into brainwashing and propaganda.Ā :D

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Lol the fact I call Ford a fatso is indication my prostate is irritating me. Where you get the idea I support Trudeau or Wynne is hilarious. Then again I doubt you have a clue what a commie is let alone a Liberal or conservative. Let's face it, to you I control the world's banks and the media and Hollywood and am filthy rich but a commie too. Love it. Run along and bark at a Chocolate chip.

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On 12/5/2018 at 7:46 AM, Rue said:

Give it a break comrade. He might steal your twinky or swiss roll if you leave it out but not the above. Wages are determined by global forces and supply and demand not the fat guy. Do they teach you any economics to go along with that Marxism?

Utter non-sense, we have the most jobs added in 94 years in a quarter, wages are still not rising.

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23 hours ago, Rue said:

Lol the fact I call Ford a fatso is indication my prostate is irritating me. Where you get the idea I support Trudeau or Wynne is hilarious. Then again I doubt you have a clue what a commie is let alone a Liberal or conservative. Let's face it, to you I control the world's banks and the media and Hollywood and am filthy rich but a commie too. Love it. Run along and bark at a Chocolate chip.

Lol. You needĀ balls to have yourĀ prostate bother you.Ā :lol:Ā  C'mon, if you have to attack people like conservatives Trump and Ford all the time then you have to be supporting the likes of liberal leftists socialists like Trudeau and Wynne. You are either on the right or you are on the left. You cannot be on both sides. I know what a conservative is and I know what a commie is and I prefer to go with the former where I believe that you prefer to go with the latter. I doubt that you can control anything yourself. But thoseĀ zionist buddies that you appear to support do run and rule the world's banks, the leftist media, and indeed Hollyweird, and are very very very filthy rich, and they were also the ones that gave the world communism. But you know that already, right?Ā  Fatso Ford says hello!Ā Ā :D

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On 12/5/2018 at 4:46 AM, Rue said:

Give it a break comrade. He might steal your twinky or swiss roll if you leave it out but not the above. Wages are determined by global forces and supply and demand not the fat guy. Do they teach you any economics to go along with that Marxism?

Wages going up or down willĀ depend on how greedy an employer wants to get. Wage hikes doĀ not rely on global forces, supply or demand. What does helpĀ to keep wages lowĀ is the fact that thanks to all three levels of government in Canada people in the private sector have to deal with many taxes and many rules and regulations that make anyone in business to have to try and survive to try to make any money at all. Your corporate globalist buddies are the ones that help keep wages low. Your marxist elite buddies are the ones who run and control the markets, stocks, bonds, preciousĀ metals and the issuing of money thru their private banks. They pretty much dictate as to whether people will get a pay wage increase or not. You need to give us all a break, comrade.Ā 

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20 hours ago, h102 said:

Utter non-sense, we have the most jobs added in 94 years in a quarter, wages are still not rising.

How does that contradict what I said? Bangladesh, Vietnam, China, Mexico, can say the same thing. Did Ford create their wages? You think wages are not determined by world market conditions? You think they operate in a vacuum? How do you think currencies that define wages are determined. Oh go on guess.

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20 hours ago, h102 said:

Utter non-sense, we have the most jobs added in 94 years in a quarter, wages are still not rising.

Coming from the lips of liberals, I have to question anything they say as to whether that many jobs were created? I wonder whatĀ are the stats on job losses in Canada then in the quarter?Ā Have any stats? Over.Ā 

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On 12/10/2018 at 5:01 PM, taxme said:

Coming from the lips of liberals, I have to question anything they say as to whether that many jobs were created? I wonder whatĀ are the stats on job losses in Canada then in the quarter?Ā Have any stats? Over.Ā 

Since Wynne raised the min wage, jobs went up.

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16 hours ago, h102 said:

No, it is economics, eocnomic reality. Ā All your right-wing paid for shills will not change the facts.

Please explain how wage increases increase job supply Ā without any correlation to market conditions. Please provide your sources. Ā Do explain.

Also please explain how you determined the sources I provided were written by right wing shills.

Clearly you have zero clue about economics let alone the relationship between market conditions market regulation, and how prices for goods and services are determined.

An "increase" inĀ  wages that does not surpass inflationary rates of the current market conditions in which that increase is given isĀ not an increase in wages but a decrease in wages relativevtonthat market place.

Giving you an extra dollar when the inflation rate subtracts any positive Ā net effect in purchasing power for you is still a decrease in wages and certainly can't generate Ā new jobs when you spend it.

The value of the currency you are paid in relation to what it can purchase inĀ your market place where the purchase takes place,Ā not its actual numericalĀ Ā amount, is what determines it's value and itsĀ ability when spent to create a spin off effect from its circulation by a purchase transactionĀ to create other jobs.Ā 

That has nothing to do with left or right-wing ideology genius. it is called common sense. 3 + -2 is one not 5. When you add a negative amount to a positive one there is a decrease not increase. Zip over your head.

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who could grasp life let alone add

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how to minus 2 from 2

Trudeau takes away four and gives him back one

and he giggles and finds it fun

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that it's fun to have Justin stick his head up your ass

Viva Justin, Karl and Che

and you payin' taxes every day

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9 hours ago, Rue said:

Please explain how wage increases increase job supply Ā without any correlation to market conditions. Please provide your sources. Ā Do explain.

Also please explain how you determined the sources I provided were written by right wing shills.

Clearly you have zero clue about economics let alone the relationship between market conditions market regulation, and how prices for goods and services are determined.

An "increase" inĀ  wages that does not surpass inflationary rates of the current market conditions in which that increase is given isĀ not an increase in wages but a decrease in wages relativevtonthat market place.

Giving you an extra dollar when the inflation rate subtracts any positive Ā net effect in purchasing power for you is still a decrease in wages and certainly can't generate Ā new jobs when you spend it.

The value of the currency you are paid in relation to what it can purchase inĀ your market place where the purchase takes place,Ā not its actual numericalĀ Ā amount, is what determines it's value and itsĀ ability when spent to create a spin off effect from its circulation by a purchase transactionĀ to create other jobs.Ā 

That has nothing to do with left or right-wing ideology genius. it is called common sense. 3 + -2 is one not 5. When you add a negative amount to a positive one there is a decrease not increase. Zip over your head.

never met a comrade

who could grasp life let alone add

Ā they haven't a clue

how to minus 2 from 2

Trudeau takes away four and gives him back one

and he giggles and finds it fun

yah you learned in economics classĀ 

that it's fun to have Justin stick his head up your ass

Viva Justin, Karl and Che

and you payin' taxes every day

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I don't even need a source, I am my own source, I am an expert in this area. Ā Wage increases for low income workers increases the amount of money in the economy, which in turn frees up money that was hoarded by the millionaire and billionaire class. Ā These workers then spend this money, which creates more jobs. Ā The rich were hoarding it or buying private jets with it, now it is being spent in local communities in walmart and paying for rent. Ā It creates zero inflation because it is not adding new money, it is just shifting it from the elitist billionaires into the hands of normal people. Ā Wealth redistribution to the poor workersĀ is good.

The best evidence of this is high mandatory income regions like Norway, Australia, Luxembourg, etc have incredibly low unemployment rates, where low minimum wages areas of Asia, Latin America and Africa are crummy with high unemployment. Ā Low min wages lead to job loss, stagnant failing economies, and crime and violence, and long term instability. Ā Further we can see that having people paid below living wage is just a bad policy. Ā There is no free lunch, if the employer is not paying a living wage, that person is still living, so someone else (taxpayers, me and you) are paying the workers of billionaires because they are cheap skates. Ā I don't want to pay for the elitist to get rich off the back of the poor.

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14 hours ago, h102 said:

I don't even need a source, I am my own source, I am an expert in this area. Ā Wage increases for low income workers increases the amount of money in the economy, which in turn frees up money that was hoarded by the millionaire and billionaire class. Ā These workers then spend this money, which creates more jobs. Ā The rich were hoarding it or buying private jets with it,

This is just brainless and stupid. The people who have to pay for the wage increases aren't the 'millionaire and billionaire class' but ordinary middle class people who have to pay extra for their restaurant meals, their coffees at Tim Hortons, their groceries and home care support. The rich don't give a damn. It's chump change to them.

14 hours ago, h102 said:

The best evidence of this is high mandatory income regions like Norway, Australia, Luxembourg, etc have incredibly low unemployment rates, where low minimum wages areas of Asia, Latin America and Africa are crummy with high unemployment.

Highly organized, advanced, technological societies which are well-ruled have lower unemployment than corrupt, screwed up shitholes. Big surprise.

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On 12/12/2018 at 10:24 PM, h102 said:

I don't even need a source, I am my own source, I am an expert in this area. Ā Wage increases for low income workers increases the amount of money in the economy, which in turn frees up money that was hoarded by the millionaire and billionaire class. Ā These workers then spend this money, which creates more jobs. Ā The rich were hoarding it or buying private jets with it, now it is being spent in local communities in walmart and paying for rent. Ā It creates zero inflation because it is not adding new money, it is just shifting it from the elitist billionaires into the hands of normal people. Ā Wealth redistribution to the poor workersĀ is good.

The best evidence of this is high mandatory income regions like Norway, Australia, Luxembourg, etc have incredibly low unemployment rates, where low minimum wages areas of Asia, Latin America and Africa are crummy with high unemployment. Ā Low min wages lead to job loss, stagnant failing economies, and crime and violence, and long term instability. Ā Further we can see that having people paid below living wage is just a bad policy. Ā There is no free lunch, if the employer is not paying a living wage, that person is still living, so someone else (taxpayers, me and you) are paying the workers of billionaires because they are cheap skates. Ā I don't want to pay for the elitist to get rich off the back of the poor.

Do you honestly believe that if the millionaire or billionaire is forced to raise the wages of his/her employees that he does not get that money back in other ways? They up the price of their products. They work like the government does. Give you a break in taxes here and take it back over there. And then one has to realize that making more money means paying more taxes. The worker will always lose in the end, comrade. Is anyoneĀ any richer when theyĀ get a wage increase? I doubt it very much.Ā 

Canada has an high unemployment rate because there are just too many people living in Canada which leads to low wages and unemployment. There are not enough jobs to go around. And with more AI technology on the riseĀ jobs will become even harder to find. Massive immigration can be blamed for so much unemployment and is definitely the problem in any country that brings in more new immigrants than what it needs. Very low unemployment rates canĀ leadĀ to more jobs. You have and always will have to pay for the elitists to get richer and that they will never try to get off the backs of the poor either under capitalism, socialism or communism. There will always be the elite.Ā Ā 

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On 12/13/2018 at 4:04 PM, Argus said:

This is just brainless and stupid. The people who have to pay for the wage increases aren't the 'millionaire and billionaire class' but ordinary middle class people who have to pay extra for their restaurant meals, their coffees at Tim Hortons, their groceries and home care support. The rich don't give a damn. It's chump change to them.

Highly organized, advanced, technological societies which are well-ruled have lower unemployment than corrupt, screwed up shitholes. Big surprise.

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This is just brainless and stupid. Ā Ordinary middle class people don't own multibillion dollar businesses employing these workers. Ā And if you are so cheap to not be able to pay an extra 1 cent for a coffee, then you probably aren't a middle class person to begin with.

And corrupt shitholes all have low wages, proof that low wages contribute to corruption and shithole status.

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