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9 hours ago, taxme said:

Do you honestly believe that if the millionaire or billionaire is forced to raise the wages of his/her employees that he does not get that money back in other ways? They up the price of their products. They work like the government does. Give you a break in taxes here and take it back over there. And then one has to realize that making more money means paying more taxes. The worker will always lose in the end, comrade. Is anyone any richer when they get a wage increase? I doubt it very much. 

It doesn't matter if the increase price of products, because people don't haveto buy their products, duh!  No, they aren't government because you can make your coffee at home or buy from another chain, you cannot just refuse to pay taxes.   Paying more taxes after you make more money is good,it expands the tax base and lowes taxes for all, do you enjoy pay taxes for the billionaire class?  If no one is richer after a wage increase, then why does everyone want one?

 

9 hours ago, taxme said:

Canada has an high unemployment rate because there are just too many people living in Canada which leads to low wages and unemployment. There are not enough jobs to go around. And with more AI technology on the rise jobs will become even harder to find. Massive immigration can be blamed for so much unemployment and is definitely the problem in any country that brings in more new immigrants than what it needs. Very low unemployment rates can lead to more jobs. You have and always will have to pay for the elitists to get richer and that they will never try to get off the backs of the poor either under capitalism, socialism or communism. There will always be the elite.  

Sure, but we shouldn't be doing the elites dirty work for them.  Let them pay their own workers.

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14 hours ago, h102 said:

This is just brainless and stupid.  Ordinary middle class people don't own multibillion dollar businesses employing these workers.  And if you are so cheap to not be able to pay an extra 1 cent for a coffee, then you probably aren't a middle class person to begin with.

It's not one cent, it's more like 10% on everything you get at a restarant, and a higher amount for homecare and home cleaning and other services. Also more for groceries.

I don't know where you get this wierd belief that increasing the wages of minimum wage workers takes one red cent out of the pockets of those big businesses. Surely you realize they simply pass those costs along to the end users, ie customers, right?

14 hours ago, h102 said:

And corrupt shitholes all have low wages, proof that low wages contribute to corruption and shithole status.

Evidently not.

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On 12/15/2018 at 3:38 PM, Argus said:

It's not one cent, it's more like 10% on everything you get at a restarant, and a higher amount for homecare and home cleaning and other services. Also more for groceries.

I don't know where you get this wierd belief that increasing the wages of minimum wage workers takes one red cent out of the pockets of those big businesses. Surely you realize they simply pass those costs along to the end users, ie customers, right?

Evidently not.

That would presume they would not take less profit, which shows the real problem is they are profiteering,not that the wages increased!

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On ‎12‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 6:07 PM, GostHacked said:

I am just wondering where the money is to fix the terrible road infrastructure that exists in Toronto. The DVP looks like it is crumbling before your eyes. I bet some workers would benefit from taking that to task instead of putting up more hi rise condo units.

Same place the money is for the subway. As you know its a bi-partisan issue and its all about short-righted politicians and each successive one not wanting to raise the taxes to keep the roads and subway evolving. Politics. Now the question is had politicians continued to increase taxes higher than they did in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's would our roads be in better shape and our subway system much larger, probably yes on the second no on the first due to weather. We forget weather makes it impossible not to have roads expand and shrink during the different seasons causing the problems not to mention the change in rain pattern where we see far much more rain in bursts of very condensed and short term periods then the same amount gradually over months which causes sinkholes.

In hindsight I wish they had never built the condos on the waterfront the way they did. Ruined everything. So did the downtown expressway  which in retrospect should have been underground. Imagine an unimpeded view of the lake. You can thank greedy developers and short sighted politicians.

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On 12/16/2018 at 3:07 PM, GostHacked said:

I am just wondering where the money is to fix the terrible road infrastructure that exists in Toronto. The DVP looks like it is crumbling before your eyes. I bet some workers would benefit from taking that to task instead of putting up more hi rise condo units.

That money is going to help pay for our new legal and illegal so called refugees so they can live in hotels. Too most of our politically correct politicians the rest of the world comes first and dam the Canadian infrastructure and Canada and everything else. Toronto and the rest of Canada is starting to suffer big time because of all of this unneeded massive immigration going on into Canada. Billions of tax dollars wasted on foreigners who should not even be here. Hopefully Ford will fix this immigration mess going on in Canada today that is taking a toll on our infrastructure and everything else. Hopefully. 

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On ‎12‎/‎20‎/‎2018 at 6:57 PM, taxme said:

That money is going to help pay for our new legal and illegal so called refugees so they can live in hotels. Too most of our politically correct politicians the rest of the world comes first and dam the Canadian infrastructure and Canada and everything else. Toronto and the rest of Canada is starting to suffer big time because of all of this unneeded massive immigration going on into Canada. Billions of tax dollars wasted on foreigners who should not even be here. Hopefully Ford will fix this immigration mess going on in Canada today that is taking a toll on our infrastructure and everything else. Hopefully. 

Hey genius the money for building infrastructure would not magically appear if there were no immigrants.  God you are painful with the imbecilic simpleton scapegoating of immigrants. They pay the same taxes as you genius. You have it in your bigoted head that all immigrants do not pay taxes. Even when they do not pay income tax they pay gst, gasoline tax. Immigrants are not why roads are built. In fact they build the damned roads you sure as hell don't.

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On 12/22/2018 at 12:33 PM, Rue said:

Hey genius the money for building infrastructure would not magically appear if there were no immigrants.  God you are painful with the imbecilic simpleton scapegoating of immigrants. They pay the same taxes as you genius. You have it in your bigoted head that all immigrants do not pay taxes. Even when they do not pay income tax they pay gst, gasoline tax. Immigrants are not why roads are built. In fact they build the damned roads you sure as hell don't.

The money would magically appear if it were not being wasted on legal and illegal so called refugees. Billions blown on those criminals that enter Canada illegally. Ford would have that money to be able to spend on infrastructure if it were not being wasted on foreign illegal criminals. Sorry but I cannot see anything genius about anything you mostly have to say here. Just mostly leftist liberal dribble is all I ever see from you. The amount of taxes that they may be paying comes nowhere close to what the taxpayer's have given them over the decades. 

More silly talk from you. Of course new immigrants pay taxes when they have immigrated to Canada legally and start working for a living in Canada. But many of those new immigrants have ended up on welfare as they have not quite been able to make it here in Canada. And then they start eating at our tax dollars that should be going to Canadians instead and not foreigners who maybe should not be here in the first place. I have it in my head a lot more common sense and logic than what you have ever shown me here. You refuse to acknowledge that legal and illegal immigration has not done one dam good thing for Canada or for host Canadians. What? Two out of every ten legal or illegal immigrants finding a job and contributing to Canada is supposed to be great with you? The GST that they pay goes right back to most of them in tax write offs from the Canadian taxpayer's at tax time. 

Then why are roads being built then? I have roads built at my expense because I pay taxes also and which are needed and used by me to build those roads. And the only reason as to why we need more roads is because Canada is taking in too many immigrants legal or illegal ones than it can handle. Only an imbecile will believe that we should build plenty of roads for nothing. Roads are being built to accommodate more immigrants and nothing more. My taxes pay for those roads to be built, silly. To hell I don't pay for those new roads.Maybe you do not pay any taxes at all for all I know? Just saying. 

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On 12/20/2018 at 6:06 PM, Rue said:

 

In hindsight I wish they had never built the condos on the waterfront the way they did. Ruined everything. So did the downtown expressway  which in retrospect should have been underground. Imagine an unimpeded view of the lake. You can thank greedy developers and short sighted politicians.

I spent two weeks in Toronto in December and that was the thing that slapped me in the face hard. The number of condo units going up. And yes the waterfront is nuts. Pier 21, the arts center, the to be LCBO center and that behemoth to be ,,, Pinnacle.  Within a 20 minute walking radius from the hotel I encountered 30 different construction sites and about 10 more proposed sites.  I really did not like it there, it felt overwhelming as I had not been downtown T.O. in years.

That bubble is going to bust within 5 years.

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I know many people that are having a harder time now with job loss or hrs lost due to the minimum wage hike. That was one of the dumbest moves ever.

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On 12/16/2018 at 3:07 PM, GostHacked said:

I am just wondering where the money is to fix the terrible road infrastructure that exists in Toronto. The DVP looks like it is crumbling before your eyes. I bet some workers would benefit from taking that to task instead of putting up more hi rise condo units.

Take all of that refugee money that is blown every day on those illegal criminals and put it to better use. Ever think about that because it is quite obvious that nobody really does. Either Canadians want better roads or more refugees. It is up to them. I am just the messenger trying to create and put more common sense and logic into the problems that plague cities like Toronto today.  :D

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On ‎12‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 6:07 PM, GostHacked said:

I am just wondering where the money is to fix the terrible road infrastructure that exists in Toronto. The DVP looks like it is crumbling before your eyes. I bet some workers would benefit from taking that to task instead of putting up more hi rise condo units.

The most accurate answer was it was spent already on paying back interest on loans. Toronto like many governments spends now and worries about the costs later as its politicians only concern themselves with getting re-elected and not the future. Then the next generations inherit the snowballing interest on previous spending loans.

Toronto is a classic example of not engaging in smaller bot continuous expansion sitting on their asses waiting and waiting as construction and supplyprices sky rocketed and the more they wait the more the expenses go up as well as the amount of interest to get paid which scare off mass projects on subways.

Its not just the DVP and subways and the Garner, its sewers.  Population density and increased rain falls in much shorter time periods is resulting in added expense to the infrastructure as well. According to insurance claims on property damage, we now get the same amount of rain we once got in a week or two weeks or a month, in ten minute bursts. Weather has changed and it causes floods and damage much more than people think.

Higher taxes are not exactly possible as Torontonians are already maxed out. I think inevitably the city will put up tolls everywhere like New York City and waste that money too.

 

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3 hours ago, taxme said:

Take all of that refugee money that is blown every day on those illegal criminals and put it to better use. Ever think about that because it is quite obvious that nobody really does. Either Canadians want better roads or more refugees. It is up to them. I am just the messenger trying to create and put more common sense and logic into the problems that plague cities like Toronto today.  :D

Your need to scapegoat someone and make irrational statements again is shared. All refugees are illegal criminals and its their fault.  You will eed concentration caps for them genius. Go hire Lavalin.

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15 hours ago, Rue said:

Its not just the DVP and subways and the Garner, its sewers.  Population density and increased rain falls in much shorter time periods is resulting in added expense to the infrastructure as well. According to insurance claims on property damage, we now get the same amount of rain we once got in a week or two weeks or a month, in ten minute bursts. Weather has changed and it causes floods and damage much more than people think.

This was the other thing I was thinking of when I was in Toronto for those two weeks.  How is the current infrastructure going to handle a 20% increase in population in the down town core?  The roads cannot handle the current load, the subways and buses and trams are crowded. The water and sewer systems are probably at capacity already. 

It's a dystopian nightmare and I could not wait to get back to Ottawa.

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20 hours ago, Rue said:

Your need to scapegoat someone and make irrational statements again is shared. All refugees are illegal criminals and its their fault.  You will eed concentration caps for them genius. Go hire Lavalin.

Your need to protect our ridiculous leftist liberal pro refugee immigration policy is what is killing and bankrupting this once great country. Hundreds of billions of taxpayer's tax dollars every year go down the drain because of the Zio's and their control of not only our immigration policy but of the country and our puppets on a string politically correct politicians also. But you know that already, right? Anyone illegally entering Canada is a criminal. They do not deserve to live in hotels with free room and board for years while our own Canadian people live in concentration camps on the streets of Toronto. Give your head a good shake. :o

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5 hours ago, GostHacked said:

This was the other thing I was thinking of when I was in Toronto for those two weeks.  How is the current infrastructure going to handle a 20% increase in population in the down town core?  The roads cannot handle the current load, the subways and buses and trams are crowded. The water and sewer systems are probably at capacity already. 

It's a dystopian nightmare and I could not wait to get back to Ottawa.

More immigrants means more infrastructure needed and which is taking a toll on our social and medical systems. The country cannot handle the hundreds of thousands of new immigrants plus refugees every year that is helping to create the mess Toronto has become. Why cannot Canadians figure this one out yet? It's bloody amazing. 

 

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On 12/22/2018 at 3:33 PM, Rue said:

Hey genius the money for building infrastructure would not magically appear if there were no immigrants.  God you are painful with the imbecilic simpleton scapegoating of immigrants. They pay the same taxes as you genius. You have it in your bigoted head that all immigrants do not pay taxes. Even when they do not pay income tax they pay gst, gasoline tax. Immigrants are not why roads are built. In fact they build the damned roads you sure as hell don't.

I don't see them as blaming immigrants so much as criticizing the current immigration system. There are some harsh realities that have zero to do with bigotry. It's not exactly a secret that Canada is suffering from an affordable housing crisis. So what's this govt's solution? Increase immigration numbers. Yeah, that'll help bring housing costs down. As well, any immigration or economics expert who understands the economics of mass immigration to a welfare state will tell you that Canada's immigration program is disastrous. Even the Europeans have said as much. The problem is the 1% factor. The closer you get to an annual intake of 1% of your total population, the less the benefits of immigration outweigh the costs. Once you're over the 1% threshold, the costs (not just financial by the way) outweigh the benefits. Nothing bigoted about it.

It's also well known that since the days of mass immigration began, landed immigrants as a whole take more from Canada than they contribute. It's not until the 2nd or 3rd generation that they start "paying their own way" so to speak.  The other issue is the number of unskilled, completely unemployable migrants we let in, many of whom are illiterate in their own language. If you have no discernible work skills, and have no working knowledge of either official language so you can at least be trained for something, then you shouldn't be permitted to emigrate to Canada and leech off the system. As well, to not have immigration rates tied to some economic factor or another is short-sighted, stupid and downright dangerous to the over-all health of Canada.

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