eyeball Posted June 24, 2018 Report Posted June 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, Machjo said: So we have to legalize and deregulate absolutely everything to prove we're not a dictatorship? We've already proven that - now we have to avoid becoming one. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
GostHacked Posted June 24, 2018 Report Posted June 24, 2018 On 6/21/2018 at 6:05 PM, dialamah said: There are definitely some dangers with pot, just as there is with alcohol. Those dangers exist whether it's legal or not. You cannot overdose on weed. But alcohol WILL kill you in excess. Quote
Machjo Posted June 24, 2018 Report Posted June 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, GostHacked said: You cannot overdose on weed. But alcohol WILL kill you in excess. People have overdosed on weed. It's not common but it happens. People have become hooked on it too. What would be so wronf about regulating pot similarly to how Singgapore regulates gambling whereby we could allow a person to exclude himself and require buyers ti scan their ID and fingerprint to ensure they're not self-exlcluded before selling to him? Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
GostHacked Posted June 24, 2018 Report Posted June 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Machjo said: People have overdosed on weed. It's not common but it happens. People have become hooked on it too. What would be so wronf about regulating pot similarly to how Singgapore regulates gambling whereby we could allow a person to exclude himself and require buyers ti scan their ID and fingerprint to ensure they're not self-exlcluded before selling to him? How does one overdose on pot? I'll say pot is habit forming, but not really addictive. I do drink and I do smoke pot, and I get more irritable if I don't have a beer over a joint. Your second sentence does not make a lot of sense. Quote
Machjo Posted June 24, 2018 Report Posted June 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, GostHacked said: How does one overdose on pot? I'll say pot is habit forming, but not really addictive. I do drink and I do smoke pot, and I get more irritable if I don't have a beer over a joint. Your second sentence does not make a lot of sense. https://www.projectknow.com/research/marijuana-overdose/ Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
eyeball Posted June 24, 2018 Report Posted June 24, 2018 54 minutes ago, Machjo said: https://www.projectknow.com/research/marijuana-overdose/ Even your link says marijuana in and of itself will not kill you. BTW where does ProjectKnow prescribe an overdose of government to cure what ails you? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Machjo Posted June 24, 2018 Report Posted June 24, 2018 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Even your link says marijuana in and of itself will not kill you. BTW where does ProjectKnow prescribe an overdose of government to cure what ails you? Projectknow doesn't appear to have taken a position on that. Why do you ask? Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
BubberMiley Posted June 25, 2018 Report Posted June 25, 2018 6 hours ago, Machjo said: People have overdosed on weed. It's not common but it happens. People have become hooked on it too. Nope. Never an overdose. Never. Not possible. Not physically addictive either, but terribly habit forming because it makes everything more pleasurable. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Machjo Posted June 25, 2018 Report Posted June 25, 2018 32 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: Nope. Never an overdose. Never. Not possible. Not physically addictive either, but terribly habit forming because it makes everything more pleasurable. https://www.projectknow.com/research/marijuana-overdose/ Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
BubberMiley Posted June 25, 2018 Report Posted June 25, 2018 Did you note how it said "overdose" of marijuana is dissimilar from overdose in other drugs, in that overdose usually means death but in (only) this case, "overdose" means being really high? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
eyeball Posted June 25, 2018 Report Posted June 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Machjo said: Projectknow doesn't appear to have taken a position on that. Why do you ask? Just curious about where you get your ideas from. Know your enemy and all that. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Machjo Posted June 25, 2018 Report Posted June 25, 2018 13 hours ago, eyeball said: Just curious about where you get your ideas from. Know your enemy and all that. I'm no enemy of addicts. I'm just trying to help them. Self-exclusion from gambling venues has benefited many gambling addicts in Singapore for example, so why not apply the same principle to recreational drugs? Do you not care about helping addicts? Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
BubberMiley Posted June 25, 2018 Report Posted June 25, 2018 27 minutes ago, Machjo said: I'm no enemy of addicts. I'm just trying to help them. Self-exclusion from gambling venues has benefited many gambling addicts in Singapore for example, so why not apply the same principle to recreational drugs? Do you not care about helping addicts? Just like overdose of marijuana is "dissimilar" from overdose of other drugs, so addiction is dissimilar. You can smoke it every day for years and quit cold turkey without any consequential physical effects. The only problem is it might be difficult to do when faced with the bleak reality of life with no more pleasant buzz. So speaking as an addict, please don't help. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Machjo Posted June 25, 2018 Report Posted June 25, 2018 28 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: Just like overdose of marijuana is "dissimilar" from overdose of other drugs, so addiction is dissimilar. You can smoke it every day for years and quit cold turkey without any consequential physical effects. The only problem is it might be difficult to do when faced with the bleak reality of life with no more pleasant buzz. So speaking as an addict, please don't help. Most gambling addicts don't experience physical withdrawals either, yet self-exclusion has still proved beneficial. Oh, by the way, self-exclusion does not prevent the non-self-excluded from entering. It would just require them to scan their ID card and fingerprint to ensure they are not self-excluded. Once confirmed, they could enter the shop and buy to their heart's content. It would just mean that those who do exclude themselves could not enter. Again, why are you against helping those addicts who might want help quitting? Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
eyeball Posted June 25, 2018 Report Posted June 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Machjo said: I'm no enemy of addicts. I'm just trying to help them. Self-exclusion from gambling venues has benefited many gambling addicts in Singapore for example, so why not apply the same principle to recreational drugs? Do you not care about helping addicts? Not when they advocate for dictatorship, screw em'. They deserve fentanyl. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Machjo Posted June 25, 2018 Report Posted June 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, eyeball said: Not when they advocate for dictatorship, screw em'. They deserve fentanyl. Who's advocating for dictatorship? Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
eyeball Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 8 hours ago, Machjo said: Who's advocating for dictatorship? You for one. You're in good company though if that's any consolation, authoritarianism is enjoying a real renaissance these days. Feted and respected like never before. The world would be a better place if everyone who actively encourages or otherwise respects it simply evaporated. I don't care how pathetic their excuse is because there is no excuse. Active support for and propping up a dictatorship, especially when its done officially, should be near and at times even at the very top of the list of crimes that can be committed against humanity. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Machjo Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, eyeball said: You for one. You're in good company though if that's any consolation, authoritarianism is enjoying a real renaissance these days. Feted and respected like never before. The world would be a better place if everyone who actively encourages or otherwise respects it simply evaporated. I don't care how pathetic their excuse is because there is no excuse. Active support for and propping up a dictatorship, especially when its done officially, should be near and at times even at the very top of the list of crimes that can be committed against humanity. Firstly, you're confusing dictatorship with authoritarianism. They are not the same thing. Secondly, you're ignoring that a spectrum can exist between authoritarianism and liberalism. Thirdly, different kinds of authoritarianism exists. For example, I'm for open borders, unilateral free trade, and free movement of people. If we compared ourselves on that front, I'm guessing you'd probably lean far more towards authoritarianism than I would. When it comes to addictive products and services, I stand far more towards authoritarianism than you do. So, who's more authoritarian between the two of us? I guess it would depend on what policies we're discussing, no? If you don't support open borders, does that mean you advocate for dictatorship? Edited June 26, 2018 by Machjo Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
capricorn Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 Drink your marijuana. Quote Denver-based Molson Coors Brewing Co. is weighing whether to expand into the sector with Canada poised to legalize the drug for recreational use this October. The brewer is said to have held talks with several Canadian-based marijuana companies to invest and collaborate in cannabis-infused beverages in an attempt to halt declining beer sales, according to a Friday report from BNN Bloomberg, citing several unidentified people familiar with the matter. http://business.financialpost.com/cannabis/molson-coors-said-to-be-in-talks-with-marijuana-companies-about-infused-beverages Two highs in one. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
eyeball Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Machjo said: Firstly, you're confusing dictatorship with authoritarianism. They are not the same thing. Facepalm. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Machjo Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 13 minutes ago, eyeball said: Facepalm. Would I describe Singapore as authoritarian? Somewhat, albeit more democratic than authoritarian but that always exists along a spectrum. Would i call Singapore a dictatorship? Nothing of the sort. Interesting though how you seem to want to avoid any discussion of any position in which you might hold more authoritarian views than I would like in trade and immigration. Why is something reprehensibly oppressive only when it involves regulating something you don't want regulated but it's fine if it regulates something you don't mind regulating? Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
eyeball Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Machjo said: Why is something reprehensibly oppressive only when it involves regulating something you don't want regulated but it's fine if it regulates something you don't mind regulating? I'm not against regulating pot. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Machjo Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, eyeball said: I'm not against regulating pot. How does that not make you a supporter of dictatorships then? Where do we draw the arbitrary line? Edited June 26, 2018 by Machjo Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
eyeball Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 6 hours ago, Machjo said: How does that not make you a supporter of dictatorships then? Get a grip. Quote Where do we draw the arbitrary line? You drew it in Singapore and Trudeau didn't draw it far enough away from Singapore, of course he's renowned for his admiration of dictators too so... Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Machjo Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 9 hours ago, eyeball said: Get a grip. You accused me of supporting dictatorships because I support strict regulations. Then you said you have nothing against regulation yourself. So where do we draw the arbitrary line at which regulation becomes dictatorial? Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
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