bush_cheney2004 Posted September 6, 2017 Report Posted September 6, 2017 54 minutes ago, hot enough said: I didn't expect that you would say anything different than what a person who brags about loving and enthusiastically embracing genocides, war crimes, terrorism, ... would say. Just being consistent with the reality. Some people run from their own nation's past and present while pointing fingers at Israel or the USA. I don't.... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
hot enough Posted September 6, 2017 Report Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Just being consistent with the reality. Some people run from their own nation's past and present while pointing fingers at Israel or the USA. I don't.... Reality is hardly your long suit. Yes, you do run from US evil, by pointing fingers at pikers when the US makes the sum total look like professional slackers. Edited September 6, 2017 by hot enough Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 6, 2017 Report Posted September 6, 2017 Just now, hot enough said: Yes, you do run from US evil, by pointing fingers at pikers when the US makes the sum total look like professional slackers. Who's the "piker"....Canada ? Israel is a sovereign nation state that will act in self interest just as "piker" Canada has done for over 150 years....long before "Nazis" ever saluted each other. Apologizing after the fact while retaining all the spoils of "genocide" and continued subjugation does not make it all better for pikers. God Save the Queen....maybe Israel should get one too. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted September 6, 2017 Report Posted September 6, 2017 7 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Who's the "piker"....Canada ? Israel is a sovereign nation state that will act in self interest just as "piker" Canada has done for over 150 years....long before "Nazis" ever saluted each other. Apologizing after the fact while retaining all the spoils of "genocide" and continued subjugation does not make it all better for pikers. God Save the Queen....maybe Israel should get one too. All while siphoning off billions from it's pal the USA. How does it feel to be suckers? Quote
Rue Posted September 6, 2017 Report Posted September 6, 2017 19 hours ago, Hudson Jones said: I love the quotation for "Palestinians" and all of this b.s. about Palestinians never having existed. That it's all a hoax. Holy fuck. This is coming from people who explode into a narcissistic rage with a sense of entitlement when Israel's policies and occupation is questioned and criticized and then somehow interpreted into "YOU ARE AGAINST AN ISRAELI STATE! YOU ARE AN ANTI-SEMITE!!!! OMG!!! HOW DARE YOU?!". A state that already exists, which is populated by a majority of people who never had any tie to that land. Then to top it off, these constant whiners fight tooth and nail against the formation of a Palestinians state. What kind of a bizarre argument are you people wanting to make? How can you demand to be taken seriously? One of the deep reasons I have contempt for your presence on this board is that you use Palestinians as a prop for your anti Semitism. You have no clue who Palestinians are, or there history. To start with your anti semitic and absolutely moronic statement suggesting Jews who came to Israel had no ties to the land shows just how dishonest you are. You think in one sentence you can dismiss the history of Judaism and Jews and deny they come from the Middle East. Even more stupid and moronic then that you engage in this script that if a Jew came to Israel from outside Palestine they had and still have no ties to it, but if a Muslim came to Palestine from outside it, they automatically are considered to have ties to it. This double standard is part of the bullshit script you propagate. Both Israelis and Palestinians have arguments as to the land. Neither is right or wrong. You on the other hand are an odious manipulator whose role is to come on this board and pit Palestinian against Muslim in this imagined fantasy that has evil Jews taking land from innocent victim Palestinians. It has nothing to do with history and everything to do with your agenda which is to falsely misrepresent the history of Muslims, Christians, Jews in the Middle East so you can prop anti Semitism on the board. You are a transparent one trick pony. You come on this forum, deny Jews have any relation to Israel nd call other people bizarre and question they be taken seriously? What have you done since you showed up on this forum with the name "Hudson Jones" that anyone who understands the history of Christians, Muslims and Jews in the Middle East should take seriously? It doesn't matter what name you use, each and every post you come on posing as if you can't possibly be questioned as to your version of the Middle East and you haven't even a clue what the origins of the word Palestine are. Quote
Rue Posted September 6, 2017 Report Posted September 6, 2017 This site: www.imminalu.net/myths-pals.htm discusses the details of the Palestinian myth. Its an article presented on this board numerous times aJunr 4nd not surprisingly Hudson Jones, or the name of the moment, has never attempted to repudiate it. They can't. They haven't a clue. Its no different then asking Hudson Jones to indicate what he meant by Zionism being a cancer and needing to be wiped out. He claimed it was not a violent reference to Israelis and yet to date when I asked him was he planning to give Israeli Jews chemotherapy to wipe out their citizenship he would not answer. To be specific, June 4, 1967 is when the term Palestinian started being used as Hudson Jones mouthpieces use it in its present context. The term Falastin comes from the latin term Palaestina. The original land was called Canaan not Palestine. Until 1967 Palestinians were called Arabs. It was only after Arafat was unable to take over Jordan in 1967 and failed he reinvented the word to mean people on the West Bank and Gaza who to this day according to the PA and Hamas as it states in their constitutions, want a Sunni Muslim state in all of Jordan, Israel and the West Banka nd Gaza, as a preliminary movement to unify the entire Middle East and all of its states in one large Muslim Ummah. All you have to do is read the constitutions and positions of the PA or Hamas. They aren't exactly secret. In fact have Hudson Jones explain to you how Bashir Assad's father Hafez Assad told Arafat there was no Palestine or Palestinians or how Nasser created the Gaza strip to imprison Arabs from Gaza who failed to defeat the Jews and the creation of Israel. He openly ridiculed them. He didn't support their independence. The litany of Arab nationalists that ridiculed the term Palestinian is there in the public domain but the anti Israelis who reinvent history won't admit that. They'd have you believe Palestinians have existed since ancient days. Its a lie. An out and out lie. The ancient peoples of the Middle East are all known. Palestinians were not one of them. Palaestina is simply a Latin word used for the geographic areas of Canaan, Judea, Somaria, Assyria, and where Lebanon and Jordan are today. Assyria was roughly where Syria is today and Canaan, where Israel is and Judea and Somaria can be found in any Bible. There was no Palestine as a town, city, village, it was simply a Latin reference to a geographic area since Romans would not use Hebrew or Canaanite or Muslim words. Palestine is not a Muslim word. The Muslims of the Middle East who come from the Arabian peninsula or are descended from persons of the Arabian peninsula are called Arabs. This includes Jews and Christians from the Arabian peninsula they are as much Arabs as the Muslim descendants of the Arabian peninsula are. The myth that Arabs are only Arabs if they are Muslim or Palestinians were never Jews is just that-lies, fabrications that deny actual history because if acknowledged, the entire script that Jews invaded the Middle East and have no ties to it would be exposed for what it is, an out and out lie. Ask yourself, what person as Hudson Jones claims to be calls others bizarre and would have you believe Jews descended from the Arabian peninsula are no less Arabs than Muslims from the same area or that Jews are not indigenous to the areas now known as Israel, Jordan, Gaza and the West Bank and only appeared in 1948 as invaders. What individual would engage in such crap? Well an individual who believes you won't take the time to research history to find out Muslims evolved only after the Christians and long after the Jews. Quote
hot enough Posted September 6, 2017 Report Posted September 6, 2017 18 minutes ago, Rue said: This site: www.imminalu.net/myths-pals.htm discusses the details of the Palestinian myth. Your link is as dead as your rants, Rue. Quote
Hudson Jones Posted September 6, 2017 Report Posted September 6, 2017 18 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Such an "argument" certainly worked in Canada and the USA....so why can't Israel do the same ? It certainly worked for the Nazis. Why not the Zionists? Right? Eh? Thank you for coming out. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 6, 2017 Report Posted September 6, 2017 7 minutes ago, Hudson Jones said: It certainly worked for the Nazis. Why not the Zionists? Right? Eh? Thank you for coming out. No problem....Israel is only the size of Victoria Island. Worked far better for Canada and the USA. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hudson Jones Posted September 6, 2017 Report Posted September 6, 2017 56 minutes ago, Rue said: This site: www.imminalu.net/myths-pals.htm discusses the details of the Palestinian myth. Pathetic. A dead link to another b.s. argument that Palestinians do not exist. How far are you weasels willing to go in order to sell this make belief world? What does Ben-Gurion, the primary founder and the first prime minister of Israel think of Rue's b.s. revisionism? Here is the book cover - Just in case: Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Hudson Jones Posted September 6, 2017 Report Posted September 6, 2017 24 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: No problem....Israel is only the size of Victoria Island. Worked far better for Canada and the USA. Hey guess what? Let's forget about the past for a second here. Let me help your argument by showing things that are happening now: In Myanmar, they are raping women and children. Some are dying of sexual injuries. They're slitting the throats of parents right in front of their kids. Trapping people inside their homes and burning them alive. Why not Israel? Others are doing it, not over a century ago, but now! Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 6, 2017 Report Posted September 6, 2017 43 minutes ago, Hudson Jones said: Hey guess what? Let's forget about the past for a second here. Who says I am just talking about the past ? "Now" includes Canada...and the USA. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hudson Jones Posted September 6, 2017 Report Posted September 6, 2017 55 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Who says I am just talking about the past ? "Now" includes Canada...and the USA. "Now" Canada and USA are doing to the first nations what Israel is doing to the Palestinians? Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
DogOnPorch Posted September 6, 2017 Report Posted September 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hudson Jones said: "Now" Canada and USA are doing to the first nations what Israel is doing to the Palestinians? Pro Tip: If you start a war...you had better win. 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 6, 2017 Report Posted September 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, Hudson Jones said: "Now" Canada and USA are doing to the first nations what Israel is doing to the Palestinians? Yes...what part of controlling land, treaty rights, potable water, and other resources are not clear to you ? 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted September 6, 2017 Report Posted September 6, 2017 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Yes...what part of controlling land, treaty rights, potable water, and other resources are not clear to you ? Careful...you'll give folks the Harry Mudd exploding robot head syndrome. Nobody needs that mess on the floor... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted September 7, 2017 Report Posted September 7, 2017 On 04/09/2017 at 5:56 PM, Argus said: Laudable, but I note they're partly responsible for the fighting in Afghanistan, stirring the pot and helping the insurgents, and that none of the Afghans are permitted to apply for citizenship. That is what were't talking about, remember. All those Palestinians sitting in refugee camps, born in Syria or Jordan or Egypt and never permitted to apply for citizenship. All the Jews driven out of Arab lands were embraced by Israel and became citizens. Refugees from around the world come to Canada and become citizens. It shouldn't really come as a surprise to you or anyone else for that matter that Iran and the US cooperated on the war against Taliban in Afghanistan. Especially when tons of research and articles has been written about this: https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR600/RR616/RAND_RR616.pdf http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/07/10/the-iran-factor-in-afghanistan/ There are nearly 3million Afghans inside Iran either as refugee or illegally. This is despite years of sanctions by Western countries on Iran...Your assertion was that no Muslim country takes on refugees and I have shown you the article where UN applauded the country. FYI the Bibi government in Israel that you speak so highly of bribes other jews to move into Israel... Are these jews "driven out"!? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jul/12/israel.iran http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/irans-jews-on-life-inside-israels-enemy-state-we-feel-secure-and-happy-a6934931.html Quote
kactus Posted September 7, 2017 Report Posted September 7, 2017 On 04/09/2017 at 5:50 PM, Rue said: 1. I never stated all the countries I quoted were Arab League nations. I see.... That's what you quoted: On 03/09/2017 at 8:25 PM, Rue said: 1. I am very open about by opinions on the Arab League of Nations, Algeria, Niger, Chad, Dahomey, Senegal, Malawi, Nigeria, Tunisia, Sudan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen. the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Malaysia, Indonesia, and the Phillippines Must be the Alzheimer... Quote 2. Claiming I don't give a hoot about Arabs when your sole purpose is to come on this forum and denigrate Israel for existing as a Jewish state and condoning the anti semitic comments on it is another example of deflection. This thread was not about me or Arabs it was about an accusation about Netanyahu being a racist when then was used to smeer all Israelis and the state of Israel's existence as racist then to attack me personally for being a Jew and believing Jews have a right to a Jewish nation. Try as you may to change the subject and deflect it does not. No you don't give a damn about other Arab countries. In fact, I will go as far as saying you have extremist views heavily biased towards Israel It's not my problem you have reading comprehension... I don't need an apologist for Israel's fascist government dictating to me what is anti semitism and what isn't. As far as I am concerned you are an anti arab/ anti Iranian and anti turk and anti anything that revolves around Israel. So go and knock yourself out with these anti Semitic BS remarks. Quote 3. The problem with Iran is not just Israel's problem but the world's problem as Iran finances terrorism across the world. I fact Israel is first and foremost a worlwide problem as Israel kills more Muslims than any other country through the financing of terror. Corrected for you.... YOU as a Zionist adhering to Israeli foreign policies make Iran worldwide problem that is because such a pathetic remark that is regurgitated like a typical Zionists here and elsewhere. It justifies your $3 billion dollar blow back.... Quote 4. For you to deny Iran has killed and engaged in mass slaughter of Kurds speaks for itself. That is public fact and domain, just as its massacre and torture of Bahaiis, Zoroastreans, on and on. Your denial and defence of Iran should make it clear who you are and what your agenda is as do the comments on Saudi Arabia. Get back to me when you have answer for why Iranian Kurds were gassed with chemicals to Saddam by US....You have no f@cking clue that an Iranian Kurd are as much Persians. Even Altai can you that... Quote 5. I certainly have more credibility than you discussing the Middle East. I have lived in Israel and volunteered on the West Bank and in Gaza on peace projects and had to clean up after a terrorist attack. That makes you to me a piss-ant, a poser, a jihadi arm chair warrior who doesn't have the balls to come out of the closet and explain his true agenda. No you don't know jack shit. So don't flatter yourself....If I am pissant jihadi arm chair warrior. What does that make you? A Jewish keyboard suicide bomber that is ignorant and bigoted... Quote 6. There is no physical difference in the Arab and Jewish peoples. They are of all physical characteristics. Your racist attempt to suggest they look difference should be condemned for the racist bullshit that it is. I do notice now you have admitted to your racist comment and no longer deny it. You are a racist. T he attempt to suggest Arabs look different than one another is bullshit. They look no different than anyone else ranging from pale white blue eyed to coal black with every shape of nose, every type of hair texture, etc. Your inference that Argus suggested all Arabs look the same is racist is the exact opposite. Its you trying to suggest there is a difference so you can engage in bullshit divide and conquer Arab elitism whereby people are defined by skin tone, nose shape. Muslims and Arabs can be some of the worst racists precisely because they engage in what you do this attempt to say people look different. Bullshit. The differences you try promote don't exist anymore than they do between anyone anywhere in the world. I unlike you lived with Beduins and Palestinians Druze, Kurds, Jews of all kinds No one could tell the difference looking at such people or me for that matter and and your kind of racism would define me as white when I know many Arabs who look just like me. kettle calling the pot black...Racism is in your genes. Cut this BS crap. If you don't know that there are differences in genetics even amongst middle easterners then you what comes out of you is tantamount to a gas fart from the mouth. An Iranian is not same as a Jew neither is a Turk genetically. They have features that are different. Sure there may be traits of similarity through intermarriages but genetically they are not the same. Ofcourse not everything comes down to skin colour. But for you and Argus to say that all Saudis looks the same as a Lebanese and they are a bunch of herds that is racism. Quote 7. I don't speak on behalf of you and have never tried. I challenge what you say. Now you are contradicting yourself in one sentence....Read what is written then challenge and judge! Quote 8. I don't respect your racism and attempts to stereotype what Arabs look like in any way shape o r fashion just as I reject your anti Semitism-for the exact same reasons. You have lost me the gravitas and respect one deserves when you come up with a unsubstantiated, regurgitated one liner as above....I will get my violin out now and cry crocodile tears for you... Millions of people in Myanmar right now are subject to what UN calls genocide. Now that's what I would call anti something.... Quote 9. I Have never hid and make it clear as can be I support the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state. I have also made it clear what Israeli state policies I don't agree with. Unlike you I donYou have lost me the gra't pretend to be criticizing an anti Israeli policy but in fact go on to use that pretense to question Israel for existing as a Jewish state, and questioning me for being a Jew for believing Jews have a right to a collective identity expressed through a state. Unlike you I do not hide my ethnic identity, I put my opinions clearly out on the board and I have never like you smeered all Arabs, all Iranians, all Muslims as you have Israelis, Zionists and Jews. In fact the words you reproduced allegedly showing I smeered all Iranians, Arabs, Muslims did not show that at all. BS! I have never seen you explicitly criticising Israeli policies. The likes of you justify the action of Bibi and never criticise policies. I have seen that so many times....Let me be clear once and for all so there is no misunderstanding and you won't ever dare to question my ethnicity! It has no god damn business to do with you or anyone else on this forum what my ethnicity is. Capiche? Einverstanden? Understood? People are free to disclose it if they wish and you cannot dictate that to them. Maybe you could in Israel but not here. I just like you am a citizen and abiding to the rules of this country. Now if you come again and smeer about Iranians or other countries surrounding Israel I sure damn as hell will respond to you! Quote 10. I now call you out again as a liar and state clearly and unequivocally you will not state on this forum Israel has a right to exist as a Jewish state. You won't because you don't believe it does. Your semantic bullshit that Israel has a right to a territory deliberately omits any reference to Israel being a Jewish state. You use the same avoidance phrase Hamas and the PA and al Muslim extremist anti semites use-a reference that makes sure never to acknowledge Israel as a Jewish state. You fool no one. Next time I asked your opinion what I think of Israel I will ask you but I haven't.... I have already stated what I had to say about Israel... Save the Hamas BS for the sheeps... Quote 11. Calling me paranoid, is par for the course. Its what you do. You've called me racist, anti Arab, anti Iranian. You think if you call me names, it deflects from your racist depiction of Arabs, your bull shit semantic game about recognizing Israel, and your refusal to condone anti Semitism that was demonstrated on this thread. You came on this board to call names to deflect from anti semitic comments that had nothing to do with the subject of the thread. You demonstrate it each time you respond to me. How is me calling you anti Arab making me racist against Arabs? Did you come up with this or did you get help from your pals? You have demonstrated time and time again you are anti Iranian. You carry on this path everything you say about antisemitism becomes irrelevant. Your choice.... Quote 12. You are a coward. I have given you a chance to state you believe Israel has a right to exist as a Jewish state, and all you can do is name call to deflect from the fact you won't say that because you don't agree with it. The more you respond and refuse to state that the more you show what an insincere and quite frankly useless propagandist you are. The one thing consistent about you jihadi arm chair warriors demanding people support Iran on this forum is you box yourself in a corner. You paint yourself in a corner with your hatred of Jews and Israel and you can't get out. You are a racist bigot. I only repeat my view once on the state of Israel and it is already stated. Your comparing me to jihadi armchair warrior exactly shows a mentality and sick mindset hell bent for self destruction. Quote Lol, go on, any time you want to explain why Arabs look different then one another and you know the difference, I am waiting, You still have not. Go on, state you recognize the right of Israel to be a Jewish state. I would but wouldn't waste any more time on you as this topic has already been discussed at length... Quote You have been asked two simple things-you can't answer those two things-all you can do is name call me to avoid answering them-you can't answer them because your answers would reveal you to be an anti-Semitic, anti-Arab bigot. You don't demand answers! One earns the respect when one earns credibility and knowledge in the subject area... Let's get that clear so there is no room for pomposity. Quote Let me tell you something about playing jihadi arm chair warrior with me. You are no legend. You haven't a clue who Persians, Arabs, Muslims, Jews, Israelis, Kurds, Zionists are. You are a sheltered mouthpiece whose reality comes from the internet and various web sites. Let me tell you something about tribal mentality you show here. You do not intimidate me by calling me names. In fact every time you come on this board telling me how I should be perceived I will see a timid scared old man using these names out of desperation. KKK time is up so is the time for people with such mentality. Quote Get it clear. When one picks up body parts after a terrorist attack there is no difference between Persian, Kurd, Jew, Arab, Muslim, Jew whatever. The fact you can't grasp that and Argus does speaks loudly. It speaks loudly to your herd mentality, a group psychosis, a hatred you think you have learned from someone who taught you your identity is predicated on hating Jews for being equals and having their own country. If you accuse an Arab of a herd mentality then you are disrespecting a Jew who is also Semitic. I am neither. No that is any of your business but just proving how absurd and idiotic this sounds. Now carry on saying that all Semitic Arabs who you and Argus think look the same hate their Jewish cousins. This is because they all have herd mentality and follow islam and then tell me you don't sound like a racist bigot.... Quote I don't speak for you,. I smell your odour and identify it. In the desert that smell carries hundreds of miles in the wind. Yoiu'd know that if you ever lived there. This proves my point that such a pomposity you put upon is agreeable with your mindset. You don't know me nor the experiences I have had. But you are being judgemental! The only smell you may be recognising is a fart in face Quote Legend my ass. Just a camel farting down wind. Yes yes. I know you have experienced camel farting in the face no need to brag on about it.... Quote
kactus Posted September 7, 2017 Report Posted September 7, 2017 On 04/09/2017 at 6:12 PM, Rue said: Now that Kactus has been outed as an apologist for the state of Iran and in his response to me has denied Iran persecutes or has persecuted Kurds, he can go to th 2017-2017 Amnesty International report and deny it. amnesty.org/en/countries/middle-east-and-north-africa/iran/report-iran In fact Iran still openly persecutes Sufis, Bahaiis, Yaresan, Christian converts and Sufis. It openly engages in discrimination against Ahwazi Arabs, Azerbaijani, Turks, Baluchis, Turkmen as well as Kurds. For Kactus to come on this board and try deny this speaks for itself and his agenda. Let's be clear. His script he spews is not allowed to acknowledge how Iran treats its own citizens nor is he allowed to state Israel should exist as a Jewish state. Lol, you want to talk about paranoia, ask him what would happen to him if he stated he supports Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state or that Iran is a racist, bigoted state that tortures its citizens, journalists and hey in one case lashed minders for daring complain about employment conditions. Yah its one utopia. This topic is about Netanyau's government and the treatment of North Africans...If you want to justify their actions by pointing finger at other countries it proves that you are biased. By all means open another thread and discuss but do not derail... Quote
GostHacked Posted September 7, 2017 Report Posted September 7, 2017 16 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: Pro Tip: If you start a war...you had better win. The USA has not won a war in decades. The War on Terror is a failure. Quote
Rue Posted September 7, 2017 Report Posted September 7, 2017 1 hour ago, kactus said: No you don't give a damn about other Arab countries. In fact, I will go as far as saying you have extremist views heavily biased towards Israel. YOU as a Zionist adhering to Israeli foreign policies make Iran worldwide problem that is because such a pathetic remark that is regurgitated like a typical Zionists here and elsewhere. It justifies your $3 billion dollar blow back.... BS! I have never seen you explicitly criticising Israeli policies. Next time I asked your opinion what I think of Israel I will ask you but I haven't.... I have already stated what I had to say about Israel... How is me calling you anti Arab making me racist against Arabs? You are a racist bigot. I would but wouldn't waste any more time on you as this topic has already been discussed at length...ubject area... Let's get that clear so there is no room for pomposity. In regards to comment 1, you deflect from your own opinions about Israel and Jews. In regards tp comment 2 , I don't adhere to any foreign policies I am a Canadian citizen. I am not a government. The fact you engage in that name calling shows you don't disntuguish anyone who supports Israel's right to exist from the Israeli government let alone specific Israeli policies. That again evidences you are a bigot. In regards to comment 3, they exist on this board and your refusing to acknowledge them means sweet phack all. In regards to comment 4, you have never asked me my opinion because you have made it clear any opinion but one that agrees with yours is not something you will consider. In regards to comment 5, I have never stated you calling me anti Arab makes you a racist. In regards to comment 6, you again deflect with name calling. This thread started under the pretense of calling Netanyahu a racist. It didn't take but one post for it to turn into a free for all to accuse all Israelis of being racists and attacking me and anyone who supports the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state of being Israeli and then engaging in anti semitic slurs. For example on your second comment you used the smeer, "typical Zionist here and elsewhere.." that is precisely the kind of negative generalization you have been called out on and makes a mockery of your attempt to suggest you are a reasonable person who recognizes the right of an Israeli Jewish state to exist. In fact it shows your true agenda and you are so God damn stupid you forgot to cloak it-that's what I do-expose you, Marcus, Kactus, whatever name of the moment. It doesn't take much to get you to spew your actual hateful agenda that you start off trying to couch and get this clear, the name calling has not deflected your refusal to state you believe in the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state, its just amplified how you won't and try your best through name calling to avoid stating it while posing as if you did. You were caught red handed in a lie and you are not intelligent to walk away from me on it. In regards to your last comment, for someone who wouldn't waste any time, the volume of your responses to me speak for themselves. I appreciate in your culture a Jew who talks back appears pompous but your belief we are inferior and can't talk back and should no our place as dhimmi, stateless and second class to you, lol does it look like its making me step and fetch Sahib Bwana Shiekh of the Arabias. Does this Jew look like he's gonna stoop n fetch to your routine? Lol. Quote
Rue Posted September 7, 2017 Report Posted September 7, 2017 23 minutes ago, GostHacked said: The USA has not won a war in decades. The War on Terror is a failure. Well that certainly is directly on point to the thread and hey you know that Gulf War never happened. By the way, you might want to before you play that Yankee imperialist tune, try find out the difference between an actual conventional war and on-going counter-terrorism exercises. The constant fight to contain ISIS, Al Quaeda and other Iranian or Saudi funded terror groups is not a conventional war. There is no declaration of war and there will be no peace treaty with signatories. Its not a war between nations and thus your calling it a war is bulshit. It has no finitie term. In fact it could go on for many decades and much of it is policing. Its not a conventional war between two uniformed entities following the Geneva code as you try lump it in with. This is why I dismiss your comments. Your agenda is trite. It takes concepts like war and terrorism and infers they are on and the same and for that matter, your taunt is past childish. You simplify the cost of war and the price soldiers and civilians pay as if its a football game someone won or lost. . Quote
Rue Posted September 7, 2017 Report Posted September 7, 2017 1 hour ago, kactus said: This topic is about Netanyau's government and the treatment of North Africans...If you want to justify their actions by pointing finger at other countries it proves that you are biased. By all means open another thread and discuss but do not derail... That was idiotic. You came on this thread, you and your "entourage" of jihadi arm chair warrior pissantes and derailed the thread and now you want to selectively address me for responding to your derailment and their derailments? Lol. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted September 7, 2017 Report Posted September 7, 2017 34 minutes ago, GostHacked said: The USA has not won a war in decades. The War on Terror is a failure. A failure by design. Wars are meant to be WON...not FOUGHT. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Rue Posted September 7, 2017 Report Posted September 7, 2017 1 hour ago, kactus said: Racism is in your genes. Cut this BS crap. If you don't know that there are differences in genetics even amongst middle easterners then you what comes out of you is tantamount to a gas fart from the mouth. An Iranian is not same as a Jew neither is a Turk genetically. They have features that are different. Sure there may be traits of similarity through intermarriages but genetically they are not the same. Ofcourse not everything comes down to skin colour. But for you and Argus to say that all Saudis looks the same as a Lebanese and they are a bunch of herds that is racism. ... I will now focus in on what an ignorant hateful racist you are and how you tried to deflect it on Argus. In regards to the first sentence, you attack me as a Jew. Let's be very clear. You claim because I am a Jew, its in my genes to be racist. This shows very clearly your anti-Semitism. Racism is the discriminatory belief that one can define people by their skin colour, nose shape, hair texture, eye shape or other secondary physical characteristics. In fact it describes a subjective attitude and racism most often leads to the justification of feeling the physical differences justify makes the person with the perceived differences inferior or undesireable. What you have done is to slur me and all Jews as being born with a built in genetic code to discriminate against others in a racist manner. This is a classic example of slurring al Jews with a negative subjective characteristic. Genetics as we now know does not make one learn to define people by their skin colour, etc. Children when they are born differentiate but don't do what racists do, ad moral or other values of desirability or acceptability to the people they see. They have to learn it later on from their environments, their parents, their role models, and their social conditions. So your first comment shows nothing more that you hate Jews and smeer us all. Next, your next paragraph shows you do not understand that secondary physical characteristics such as nose shape, hair texture, skin tone, do not make people genetically different and never have. Science has taught us that beyond reasonable doubt through development of in depth understanding of genetics and our dna and blood types. We now have more than sufficient science in the genetic field tp show what makes people genetically different or in fact predisposed to certain characteristics is not their skin colour, nose shape, hair texture, but their blood type and dna strands and codes and chemical variants on hormones, etc. What you have done is suggest a Person is not a Jew. There are of course Persian Jews. Your decision to say there are not any is a political one. You have ben taught a Jew can'tpossibly be equal to you as a Persian, so you spew this desperate attempt to justify your racism and your being brought up to believe Jews are kafir, i.e., dhimmi, i.e., imperfected souls going to hel who can not be the equal of a Muslim. Its what you were taught as a Muslim and its why you don't and can't come on this forum and say you will not recognize as Jew as an equal to a Muslim and having the right to have a Jewish state. You have shown you can't and won't say it and in the above comments you try intermix genetic definition with subjective ones. When you use the term "features that are different", you use it in the context to then state because Argus says Arabs don't have distinguishable facial features or "look the same" you and others not I went off on a racist tangent saying he is a racist for saying that. I asked you repeatedly, explain to me how Jews, Turks, Jurds, Persians, look different from one another if Argus is wrong and racist for saying that. You can't answer. In fact when you answer now, you engage deliberately in the ambiguous statement "they have features that are different". You dishonestly restate the issue. You can't prove physical features are different. You have been asked over and over to explain the physical differences and you can't. That makes you a joke. Argus is right. We look the same and its eating you up we do. As for our genetic differences you cut the bullshit because you have been caught and exposed. Any genetic differences would be physically invisible and you know that. Those genetic differences would not lead to a particular nose shape in Jews any different than a Persian, Jew or Turk so do me a favour, walk. You dug yourself in a racist whole. Stating extremist Muslims have a herd mentality is dead on. All extremists do. Like you they suspend logic. They react with such emotion they can't stop from writing their racist thoughts. Go on explain how the genetic difference between a Turk and Jew makes them look different. I have asked you repeatedly to prove it. Go on prove it. You can't because no such proof will ever exist and you sling to your barely couched anti Semitism taught to you and that you cling to. Your belief in dhimmitude, Jews as kafir and looking different its all inter-mixed. Your religion was taught to you in a way that depicted we Jews as monkeys to be slaughtered. Who the phack do you think you address, some gentile who doesn't understand the Koran or your culture or mine? You want to try again with this bullshit there are no Persian Jews? What a pathetic thing to say. All Jews came from the geographic region of Persia. Your ancestors and mine trace back to ancestors in Mesopatamia that at one point was linked by land to Africa. Everyones genetics can be traced back to genetic pools in Africa and India. Science has shown skin colour, hair texture, means sweet phack all to the origins of our genetic codes and species. All you have tried to do is deflect from your own hatred of Jews by trying to depict Argus as hating you. He could care less and so could I. What I challenge and he has is your herd mentality-this group psychosis you have bought into that you look different then not just Jews but Arabs. Turks, etc. By the way before you write broken sentences asking Altai who calls me a kafir on this forum for help understand something-that was pathetic. Turning to her for help was pathetic, Given the content of her posts what the hell was that supposed to add? Well of course, your nations have one thing in common with Iraqi Sunnis, y'all hate and have engaged in genocide against Kurds. Good for you. Now you want to deny Iran has exterminated Kurds no different than the Turks or Hussein, save it for another thread where you can try present Iran as a utopia nation with no racism or human rights violations against ethnic groups or religious groups. You don't have the balls to because you know exactly the Iranian racist and anti semitic and fascist intolerant views the Iranian clerical council enforces. Spare me Tehran Terry, been there done that. You are the very racist you accuse all Israelis and Jews of being and Argus. As for calling me a racist, lol no I would not hire you. Not unless I wanted a knife jammed in my back while I was working. No problem, you can file an Ontario Human Rights complaint and have Justin Trudeau be a character witness for you. I'm gonna go with Norm MacDonald and Gilbert Godfriend. They will tag team. Quote
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