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Posted
21 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

The Vietnamese today seem remarkably forgiving about the war; grief dominates over rage and anti-Americanism does not seem to be a big problem at all. 

 

So did the Canadians after the War of 1812.   Canada traded its imperialist masters for Yankee capitalist masters.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Posted
49 minutes ago, hot enough said:

And in the great rule of law USA, how many of the tens of thousands of US war criminals were held to account? Not a one! All that was learned was that the US has to have a more effective propaganda system to better control its citizens and other countries.

 

Is that why more immigrants go to the USA more than any other country in the world.   U.S. foreign policy must be working just fine for them.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, hot enough said:

The US is supposed to be the good guy, remember? A good guy doesn't illegally invade over 70 countries, pretending to save them while murdering tens of millions just to steal the bread from children's mouths.

 

The US is the "good guy"...for American and allied interests.  

U.S. foreign policy is just better at doing it compared to Canada's "war crimes" around the world.

Canada's foreign minister called the U.S. "the indispensable nation" for maintaining "world order"....DUH !!

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Posted
11 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

So did the Canadians after the War of 1812.   Canada traded its imperialist masters for Yankee capitalist masters.

Nope, we kicked the Americans out and carried on to create a country which is rated much higher than the US in terms of desirability to live. And we don't have to deal with Donald Trump.

Posted
21 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Is that why more immigrants go to the USA more than any other country in the world.   U.S. foreign policy must be working just fine for them.

More of the propaganda. People would go even if they knew the truth, that the US will murder anyone and everyone, even their own, just to allow them to keep their thieving going on. 

Posted
15 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

The US is the "good guy"...for American and allied interests.  

Just as Hitler was for his allied interests. And note, that the US was doing business with the Nazis thru a good part of WWII. Nobody is too low for the US to align itself with. 

Why is it that the "good guy" so loves to murder children, rape women they are trying to save from oppression, lie like a sidewalk?

Posted
10 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

The US is the "good guy"...for American and allied interests.  

U.S. foreign policy is just better at doing it compared to Canada's "war crimes" around the world.

Canada's foreign minister called the U.S. "the indispensable nation" for maintaining "world order"....DUH !!

 

The problem with Viet-Nam was that the American left thought the NVA/VC were the "good guys". 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, hot enough said:

Just as Hitler was for his allied interests. And note, that the US was doing business with the Nazis thru a good part of WWII. Nobody is too low for the US to align itself with. 

Why is it that the "good guy" so loves to murder children, rape women they are trying to save from oppression, lie like a sidewalk?

 

Uh...the world was doing business with Nazi Germany before the war.

Posted
8 minutes ago, hot enough said:

More of the propaganda. People would go even if they knew the truth, that the US will murder anyone and everyone, even their own, just to allow them to keep their thieving going on. 

 

It's not propaganda....more legal and illegal emigres have chosen the United States of America than any other nation in the world...by far...it's not even close.

And these are the foreigners subjected to evil U.S. foreign policy.   

What part of voting with their feet don't you understand ?

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Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Posted
8 minutes ago, hot enough said:

Just as Hitler was for his allied interests. And note, that the US was doing business with the Nazis thru a good part of WWII. Nobody is too low for the US to align itself with.

 

Guess which nation send 75% of exports to the United States regardless of foreign policy ?

Hint:  The name begins with a "C" and ends with an "A".

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Posted

Yes indeed, the USA will do business with anyone.

Quote

Trading with the Enemy

The Nazi - American Money Plot 1933-1949

by Charles Higham

...

 

The tycoons were linked by an ideology: the ideology of Business as Usual. Bound by identical reactionary ideas, the members sought a common future in fascist domination regardless of which world leader might further that ambition.

Several members not only sought a continuing alliance of interests for the duration of World War II but supported the idea of a negotiated peace with Germany that would bar any reorganization of Europe along liberal lines. It would leave as its residue a police state that would place The Fraternity in postwar possession of financial, industrial, and political autonomy. When it was clear that Germany was losing the war the businessmen became notably more "loyal.''

Then, when war was over, the survivors pushed into Germany, protected their assets, restored Nazi friends to high office, helped provoke the Cold War, and insured the permanent future of The Fraternity.

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To this day the bulk o~ Americans do not suspect The Fraternity. The government smothered everything, during and even (inexcusably) after the war. What would have happened if millions of American and British people, struggling with coupons and lines at the gas stations, had learned that in 1942 Standard Oil of New Jersey managers shipped the enemy's fuel through neutral Switzerland and that the enemy was shipping Allied fuel? Suppose the public had discovered that the Chase Bank in Nazi-occupied Paris after Pearl Harbor was doing millions of dollars' worth of business with the enemy with the full knowledge of the head office in Manhattan? Or that Ford trucks were being built for the German occupation troops in France with authorization from Dearborn, Michigan? Or that Colonel Sosthenes Behn, the head of the international American telephone conglomerate ITT, flew from New York to Madrid to Berne during the war to help improve Hitler's communications systems and improve the robot bombs that devastated London? Or that ITT built the Focke-Wulfs that dropped bombs on British and American troops? Or that crucial ball bearings were shipped to Nazi-associated customers in Latin America with the collusion of the vice-chairman of the U. S. War Production Board in partnership with Goring's cousin in Philadelphia when American forces were desperately short of them? Or that such arrangements were known about in Washington and either sanctioned or deliberately ignored?

For the government did sanction such dubious transactions-both before and after Pearl Harbor. A presidential edict, issued six days after December 7, 1941, actually set up the legislation whereby licensing arrangements for trading with the enemy could officially be granted. Often during the years after Pearl Harbor the government permitted such trading. For example, ITT was allowed to continue its relations with the Axis and Japan until 1945, even though that conglomerate was regarded as an official instrument of United States Intelligence. No attempt was made to prevent Ford from retaining its interests for the Germans in Occupied France, nor were the Chase Bank or the Morgan Bank expressly forbidden to keep open their branches in Occupied Paris. It is indicated that the Reichsbank and Nazi Ministry of Economics made promises to certain U.S. corporate leaders that their properties would not be injured after the Fuhrer was victorious. Thus, the bosses of the multinationals as we know them today had a six-spot on every side of the dice cube. Whichever side won the war, the powers that really ran nations would not be adversely affected.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/Trading_Enemy_excerpts.html

 

Posted
19 minutes ago, Omni said:

Nope, we kicked the Americans out and carried on to create a country which is rated much higher

 

Agreed...no other country in the world is rated higher for American economic investment and ownership than Canada.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Guess which nation send 75% of exports to the United States regardless of foreign policy ?

Hint:  The name begins with a "C" and ends with an "A".

Oh yeah, China.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Agreed...no other country in the world is rated higher for American economic investment and ownership than Canada.

The latest polls have us at #2, US#7.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Omni said:

Oh yeah, China.

 

Guess again...China only exports 18% to USA.

Another hint:   the nation that exports 75% to the United States also watches more American media than any other nation in the world and has not won the Stanley Cup in over 20 years.

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Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Charles Higham is an immigrant to the USA...the evil USA, I mean...sorry...forgot.

:D

 

The ultimate measure...voting with their feet for the evil USA.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Guess again...China only exports 18% to USA.

Another hint:   the nation that exports 75% to the United States also watches more American media than any other nation in the world and has not won the Stanley Cup in over 20 years.

I got you heading for the keyboard pretty fast though eh! 38 states rely on Canada as their #1 trading partner.

Posted
1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

And then cashing-in on books published in said evil USA...about the evil USA. He's the same twit that turned Errol Flynn into a Nazi.

 

Naomi Klein does the same thing....it's all  about getting paid in real U.S. dollars, not pesos.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Posted
Just now, DogOnPorch said:

 

I classify his material as the sort of stuff found in the supermarket line-up.

Cat eats Detroit...that sort of stuff.

Um just edify you somewhat, Naomi is a her.

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