The truth about Saudi-backed traitors Harper and Trudeau!

[-1=e^ipi]

8 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

But if we stop dealing with them from this moral standpoint, our adversaries would have no problem moving right in.

Not necessarily. Russia and China have problems with Islamic Extremism as well. Maybe they would prefer to work together with the West against the shared enemy of the Islamists.

[DogOnPorch]

15 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

You have evidence Mosaddegh wanted Iran to join the USSR or become Communist?  He certainly wasn't a part the Tudeh Party, Iran's Communist part.

 

Mousie wasn't Tudeh, but he needed the Tudehs to get "democratically elected". They turned on him during the Coup...of course...nature of the scorpion.

[blackbird]

10 hours ago, -1=e^ipi said:

Rather Russia or China than Saudi Arabia, Iran or ISIS. The West should reorient it's foreign policy and try to seek friendly relations (or maybe even long term alliances) with Russia and China.

 

Sanctions.

The U.S.'s relationship with other countries is a complex relationship which takes in many factors that experts working for the departments of foreign affairs and other departments determine. 

Edited May 4, 2017 by blackbird

[blackbird]

On 2017-05-02 at 7:14 PM, kimmy said:

Isn't there a glut of oil right now?   Why do we have to pretend we're friends with the Saudi scumbags when oil is so plentiful?

 -k

Why not write to Trudeau and ask him why he doesn't force Qntario, Quebec, and the maritmes to buy their oil from Alberta instead of Saudi Arabia?  I know.  Might as well throw a letter in the garbage as write to Trudeau.  It will get the same amount of attention.

[GostHacked]

On 5/2/2017 at 10:14 PM, kimmy said:

Isn't there a glut of oil right now?   Why do we have to pretend we're friends with the Saudi scumbags when oil is so plentiful?

 -k

There is a surplus it seems, and has been for a few years. The Saudis are not making the money they used to. So Saudi Arabia colluded with other OPEC nations to drop output to bring the price back up.

So much for the price being base on a 'supply and demand' notion. It's rigged on purpose. There is no 'market'.

[DogOnPorch]

Saudis use a completely hidden system to determine how much "reserves" they have in the ground. They could lie about the number and we'd have little way to confirm or deny w/o an insider spilling the beans.

[-1=e^ipi]

16 hours ago, blackbird said:

The U.S.'s relationship with other countries is a complex relationship which takes in many factors that experts working for the departments of foreign affairs and other departments determine. 

Nah, the USA is run by dinosaurs who can't get over the cold war and want to perverse the status quo. The reason it's allied to Saudi Arabia and enemies with Russia is because it's always been allied to Saudi Arabia and enemies with Russia (or at least it has been for so many decades that it has been the case since most people alive today were born). So the status quo doesn't really get challenged and just gets reinforced by a bubble of confirmation bias of the people higher up.

[blackbird]

CBC television will have a documentary on Saudi Arabia on Sunday night at 10PM PDT.