DogOnPorch Posted January 6, 2018 Report Posted January 6, 2018 6 hours ago, ?Impact said: Obviously you are not a scholar of Genesis. Firmament is star dust. You're free to believe any little thing you like. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
taxme Posted January 6, 2018 Report Posted January 6, 2018 14 hours ago, blackbird said: Briefly to summarize from rough memory and may not be exactly how it will be. The last days are already here. Wars, kingdom rising against kingdom. A push toward one world government or globalism is now in progress. A new world order will develop. That is what the world is heading toward now. Jesus is prophesied to return and remove all believers before the last seven year reign of the anti-Christ begins. This is referred to as the rapture. Those remaining will be in for terrible times. If one becomes a believer during this time, he may be martyred for refusing to take the mark of the beast. (a mark or computer chip in his right hand or forehead). The new world order will begin at some point, financial systems will collapse. An anti-Christ will head the one world government. Money will be abolished and everyone will who is around at that time will have to take a mark, possibly a computer chip implanted in the right hand or forehead. Money will be gone. Nobody will be able to buy or sell without this mark (or computer chip) in his/her right hand or forehead. Believers in Jesus should not take the mark or implant. They will be beheaded. It will be as in the days of Sodom and Gomorah.. People will not have natural affections any more. There will be a lot of violence and drug use. There will be all kinds of upheavals, natural disasters. Along with the anti-Christ, there will be a false prophet leading a false one-world religion. The whole world will be against Israel. There will be several campaigns that will eventually lead up to Armageddon. Many nations will move against Israel. There may be a nuclear war. There will be battle over Jerusalem. We see even today the controversy over Jerusalem. The world's three main religions claim to have a stake in Jerusalem. Jerusalem always has been a focal point of great conflict and in the last days will be the focal point. These things are described in Revelation. Leaving out some events, after seven years, the Lord will return to earth and destroy Israel's enemies. The Lord will return to earth at Mount of Olives, just outside Jerusalem. Then the Lord will establish rule over the earth from Jerusalem for a thousand years. Believers will rule with Him. After a thousand years a new heaven and a new earth will be created. Ref. Matthew Ch24, 2 Thessalonians ch2, Revelation. The last days have always been around, and always will be around. No one is coming to save us all from ourselves. Wars, kingdoms warring with other kingdoms have been going on for centuries. Maybe globalism/NWO is on it's way out thanks to Trump. Hey, you never know. The mark of the beast will not happen if we the people decide that it will not happen. If money does disappear though then we will know that our lives will always be under surveillance forever, and then we will be real slaves to the banksters who will be in total control of the digital currency. You and me being able to buy and sell will be up to them. The banksters will know what we are doing every time you make a purchase. I wonder how that is going to work with private garage sales? We are now pretty much living in the world of Sodom and Gomorah. All we see and hear in the news media these days is talk about some kind of perverted sex. When pedophilia, incest and beastiality are the norm and protected by law than S & G will really be here. Natural disasters have been happening on earth since earth was created. Disasters will not be a sign that someone is going to come and save our azzes. I believe and hope that one day all religions will be abolished. Religion has always been behind the scenes in the creation of wars. Religions have financed many of them. The whole world will always be against Israel. It is a bandit state. It has no right to exist. You said: "then the Lord will establish rule over the earth from Jerusalem for a 1000 years. After that 1000 years a new heaven and earth will be created". If the Lord is already here then why wait for another 1000 years to create a new heaven and earth? Do it when he first gets here. Just saying. Quote
taxme Posted January 6, 2018 Report Posted January 6, 2018 15 hours ago, blackbird said: The Bible does have the answers to those questions. What you believe or accept on this subject will first of all depend on what you are willing to consider and believe concerning the Bible. But a more urgent question was examined by one the foremost legal minds. I would like you to consider this question examined by a professor of law, Dr. Simon Greenleaf, who thought the whole thing was a hoax. Whether the christian faith is fact or fiction rests on whether Jesus Christ actually rose from the dead. This question has been studied in depth by a man who was a skeptic but one of the greatest legal minds. I give part of it and the link for the rest. quote The Resurrection of Jesus Christ is either ... the greatest event, or the greatest fraud — in history! Did Jesus Christ actually rise from the dead? Dr. Greenleaf, the Royal Professor of Law at Harvard University, was one of the greatest legal minds that ever lived. He wrote the famous legal volume entitled, A Treatise on the Law of Evidence, considered by many the greatest legal volume ever written. Dr. Simon Greenleaf believed the Resurrection of Jesus Christ was a hoax. And he determined, once and for all, to expose the "myth" of the Resurrection. After thoroughly examining the evidence for the resurrection — Dr. Greenleaf came to the exact opposite conclusion! He wrote a book entitled, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice. In which he emphatically stated: "it was IMPOSSIBLE that the apostles could have persisted in affirming the truths they had narrated, had not JESUS CHRIST ACTUALLY RISEN FROM THE DEAD, . . ." (Simon Greenleaf, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice, p.29). Greenleaf concluded that according to the jurisdiction of legal evidence the resurrection of Jesus Christ was the best supported event in all of history! And not only that, Dr. Greenleaf was so convinced by the overwhelming evidence, he committed his life to Jesus Christ! What changed his mind? What evidence did Dr. Greenleaf encounter that so drastically turned him around? What facts did he discover that he could not rationally ignore? In order to answer that, let's go back to that scene nearly 2,000 years ago. That eery night in the garden of Gethsemene, as a blood-thirsty mob came and arrested Jesus Christ. He was brought before Pilate, and there in plain view, Jesus Christ was spit upon, cursed, he was laughed at, whipped, beaten. He was branded a blasphemer. And He was sentenced to die by the most extreme, shameful form of capital punishment ever devised — crucifixion. Galatians 3:13 reads, "Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree". Jesus Christ died a curse. He died as a criminal. He died in open shame and disgrace. In the eyes of the world, Jesus Christ died a total disgrace! And there stood His apostles — in stunned unbelief. Here was their hope. Here were 11 men that had forsaken all and followed this man. They believed in this man for 3 years. Can you imagine what was going on in their minds? Didn't He heal the sick? Didn't we see Him walk on water? Didn't we see Him raise people from the dead? Didn't we see Him still the raging storm? And to end like this? THAT NIGHT, THERE STOOD 11 DEFEATED AND CONFUSED MEN! They had given up everything for naught. And then to die like He did. Beaten. Smitten. Humiliated. Guilty. Blasphemer. A complete disgrace! And Mark 14:50, says, "And they all forsook him, and fled". There was the apostle Peter, the one who boasted, just days earlier, "Though I should die with thee, yet will I not deny thee." (Matthew 26:35) There he was that night, standing in the mob, defeated, confused, and hurt. Jesus was dead! He was crucified as a blasphemer! One of the women saw Peter and said, "you were one of them, you was with Jesus of Nazareth". The Bible says "he began to curse and to swear, saying, I know not this man of whom ye speak." (Mark 14:71) Three times Peter denied the Lord, cursing and swearing, "I know not this man". "And they all forsook him, and fled!" BUT SOMETHING HAPPENED! Something happened to that small band of frightened and humiliated men. . . Less than two months later — they went back into Jerusalem boldly preaching, at the threat of death, that — JESUS CHRIST WAS ALIVE! Listen to Peter in Acts 2,: "Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs. . . ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain. . . THIS JESUS HATH GOD RAISED UP, WHEREOF WE ALL ARE WITNESSES." What transformed these fearful and confused men into fierce, bold lions? Acts chapter 4:18-19, reads, "And they called them, and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus. But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye." And verse 20 reads, "For we cannot but speak the things which WE HAVE SEEN AND HEARD". What had these men seen? What had these men heard? What was it that beatings, threatenings, jail, torture and even death could not silence? In Acts 5, they put in jail and beaten — and verse 41 says "And they departed. . . rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name". What had these 12 men seen that they would eventually die a horrible death for? Friend, there's only one event in the history of this universe that could explain such a change. THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST! One theory suggests the apostles fabricated the resurrection. Two major problems: One, If the body of Jesus Christ was available, you'd better believe, the Roman authorities would have paraded His body for all to see. Christianity was spreading like a wild fire! And nothing could have quenched that flame quicker than the body of Jesus Christ! An article, suggesting Jesus faked His death and resurrection, appeared in the prestigious British Journal of the Royal College of Physicians. The article makes the assertion, "the whole episode was planned by Jesus and his followers. . . that death would be feigned so that early removal from the cross might be secured." Do you know the problem with that — if the resurrection of Jesus Christ was not true — there were 11 men that knew it!Remember, friend — THESE MEN WERE EYEWITNESSES! They were there! "Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were EYEWITNESSES. . ." Luke 1:2"That which was from the beginning, which we have HEARD, which we have SEEN WITH OUR EYES, which we have LOOKED UPON, and our HANDS HAVE HANDLED. . ." 1 John 1:1"For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were EYEWITNESSES of his majesty." 2 Peter 1:16 And these men went so far as seal their testimony with their blood! They died a horrible and martyrs death! FOR A LIE. . . KNOWING IT WAS A LIE! There is no way, these 12 men could have all been deceived. For this reason — these 12 men not only died for a lie — and here is the catch — THEY KNEW IT WAS A LIE! If the resurrection of Jesus Christ a lie — THEY KNEW IT! You can not find a group of 11 men in the history of this universe who forsook all, were beaten, were jailed and even went so far as die for a lie — KNOWING it was a lie! IT IS IMPOSSIBLE! Michael Green, principal of St. John's College, Nottingham, writes concerning the apostles, ". . . You could imprison them, flog them, kill them, but you could not make them deny their conviction that on the third day he rose again." Dr. Greenleaf wrote, "IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE that the apostles could have persisted in affirming the truths they had narrated, had not JESUS CHRIST ACTUALLY RISEN FROM THE DEAD!" And then there's the man called Saul of Tarsus. Saul of Tarsus thought Jesus was a false messiah, a fake, a blasphemer. And to exterminate Christianity totally, became his passion! The Bible describes him: "As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison." (Acts 8:3)"And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, . . ." (Acts 9:1) Saul of Tarsus was one of Christianitys' most rabid persecutors. One day traveling the dusty road to Damascus, Saul burning with vengeance, with documents authorizing him to capture all the followers of Jesus. But on the road to Damascus something happened to Saul of Tarsus. . . "And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest". (Acts 9:3-5) And on the road to Damascus, the greatest conversion in history took place! For Saul of Tarsus, among the greatest enemies of Jesus Christ, that ever lived — became the Apostle Paul — THE GREATEST CHRISTIAN THAT EVER LIVED! What happened to this man? What could so transform this man, that he completely dedicated his life to spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ? And was later beheaded at Rome in 67 A.D. for his faith in Jesus Christ. There is only one possible explanation —THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST! Gilbert West and Lord Lyttleton, two Oxford students, believed Christianity was a "tale gone mad" and they determined to refute the Christian faith. Lyttleton resolved to disprove the conversion of Saul of Tarsus, and West would refute the resurrection of Jesus Christ. They figured a careful, rational, examination of the evidence would easily disprove the Christian faith.But after examining the evidence — they both separately came to the opposite conclusion! Lyttleton concluded that Saul of Tarsus did, in fact, convert to the Apostle Paul through Jesus Christ. And Gilbert West concluded that the Resurrection of Jesus Christ was among the best established facts in all of history! West went on to write a book entitled, "Observations on the History and Evidences of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ". Professor Thomas Arnold, former chair of history at Oxford, and author of the famous volumes, History of Rome, was skillfully educated in the study of historical facts. Professor Arnold, stated, "I have been used for many years to study the histories of other times, and to examine and weigh the evidence of those who have written about them, and I know of no one fact in the history of mankind which is PROVED BY BETTER AND FULLER EVIDENCE of every sort, than the great sign which God has given us that Christ died and rose again from the dead." After investigating the evidence of the resurrection, Lord Darling, former Chief Justice of England, stated, ". . . there exists such overwhelming evidence, positive and negative, factual and circumstantial, that no intelligent jury in the world could fail to bring in a verdict that the resurrection story is true." To deny the resurrection of Jesus Christ you have to close your eyes to the overwhelming facts of history. And friend that's a very serious thing to do If Jesus Christ actually rose from the dead — what He said about "after death" is not something to take lightly! And Jesus Christ warned of a place called hell — over and over! He mentioned hell eight times more than heaven! In Luke 16:23, Jesus described a man that had died, and Jesus said, "And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments,. . ." Jesus said plainly — the man was in hell! Jesus went on to describe the man, in verse 24, ". . . for I am tormented in this flame." Friend, Jesus Christ believed in a place of fire and torment called hell! Unquote http://av1611.org/resur.html Sorry, but I am not going to take the time to read all of what you posted here because I know that I am not going to believe most of it anyway. Quote
blackbird Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, taxme said: Sorry, but I am not going to take the time to read all of what you posted here because I know that I am not going to believe most of it anyway. It's a shame because it is extremely important and the argument makes complete sense. It would only take a few minutes to read anyway. It's up to you. Jesus warned about a place called hell a number of times. So if he really did rise from the dead and was telling the truth, we need to pay attention. Edited January 7, 2018 by blackbird Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 It's pretty much God of the Gaps. God exist only where science allows... But I admire the Alamo-like defence. Plus, Christianity has some awesome tunes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiRpUtVByxU Crikey, makes me want to start a 30 Year War or burn some witches. Hedy!!! Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
blackbird Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 5 hours ago, taxme said: The last days have always been around, and always will be around. No one is coming to save us all from ourselves. Wars, kingdoms warring with other kingdoms have been going on for centuries. Maybe globalism/NWO is on it's way out thanks to Trump. Hey, you never know. The mark of the beast will not happen if we the people decide that it will not happen. If money does disappear though then we will know that our lives will always be under surveillance forever, and then we will be real slaves to the banksters who will be in total control of the digital currency. You and me being able to buy and sell will be up to them. The banksters will know what we are doing every time you make a purchase. I wonder how that is going to work with private garage sales? We are now pretty much living in the world of Sodom and Gomorah. All we see and hear in the news media these days is talk about some kind of perverted sex. When pedophilia, incest and beastiality are the norm and protected by law than S & G will really be here. Natural disasters have been happening on earth since earth was created. Disasters will not be a sign that someone is going to come and save our azzes. I believe and hope that one day all religions will be abolished. Religion has always been behind the scenes in the creation of wars. Religions have financed many of them. The whole world will always be against Israel. It is a bandit state. It has no right to exist. You said: "then the Lord will establish rule over the earth from Jerusalem for a 1000 years. After that 1000 years a new heaven and earth will be created". If the Lord is already here then why wait for another 1000 years to create a new heaven and earth? Do it when he first gets here. Just saying. I believe these things prophesied are going to take place. Israel was God's chosen people in the Old Testament, although anybody could convert to Judaism in those days. Since Christ came one must be converted to Christ to be saved. I think it is far safer to be a believer and be saved. We have always had disasters, yes, but maybe they are getting worse. Seems to be a lot of hurricanes, tornadoes and floods in the U.S. Earthquakes in Asia, Japan, south America too. We can see the new world order creeping in. Trudeau trying to get in thick with the UN and climate change gang. Maybe Trump will slow it down. But what is prophesied, will happen at some point. Things look a little shaky with North Korea and Iran as well. Iran is a sworn enemy of Israel. Israel is a democracy and a friend of the west. We need to stand behind them. . Quote
blackbird Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: It's pretty much God of the Gaps. God exist only where science allows... But I admire the Alamo-like defence. Plus, Christianity has some awesome tunes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiRpUtVByxU Crikey, makes me want to start a 30 Year War or burn some witches. Hedy!!! It doesn't matter much what anyone thinks. God is omnipotent and whether everyone believes or not make no difference. His plan will still go forward. Those who don't get on board, will be left behind. The train is going to keep going! Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, blackbird said: It doesn't matter much what anyone thinks. God is omnipotent and whether everyone believes or not make no difference. His plan will still go forward. Those who don't get on board, will be left behind. The train is going to keep going! What about all those millions of Hindus? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 ...for example. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
blackbird Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: What about all those millions of Hindus? Well, all I can do is point to is the Bible . Read the gospel of John. What Jesus taught is completely exclusive. There doesn't seem to be any allowance for anything else. There is only one true faith. People can draw their own conclusions. That is why missionaries risked their lives and everything to go into these remote jungles and far off lands in days gone by. Edited January 7, 2018 by blackbird Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, blackbird said: Well, all I can do is point to is the Bible . Read the gospel of John. What Jesus taught is completely exclusive. There doesn't seem to be any allowance for anything else. There is only one true faith. People can draw their own conclusions. That is why missionaries risked their lives and everything to go into these remote jungles and far off lands in days gone by. Those millions of Hindus are not going to read the pamphlet you stuffed in my mailbox. No copping out. What's the fate of those Hindus according to your cult? Edited January 7, 2018 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
blackbird Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Those billions of Hindus are not going to read the pamphlet you stuffed in my mailbox. No copping out. What's the fate of those Hindus according to your cult? It's not a cult. Read the gospel of John. I am not going to make any judgment. That is a pointless road to go down. I'm just pointing to the King James Bible (1611) the only inspired Bible in the English language. (modern versions are corrupted by use of corrupt manuscripts) Incidentally I met a man once who said he had spent I think twenty years in India as a missionary and never saw anyone converted to christianity. Sounds kind of strange. I wonder why. Edited January 7, 2018 by blackbird Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, blackbird said: It's not a cult. Read the gospel of John. I am not going to make any judgment. That is a pointless road to go down. I'm just pointing to the King James Bible (1611) the only inspired Bible in the English language. (modern versions are corrupted by use of corrupt manuscripts) It most certainly is. To an atheist, you're all snake-oil salesmen. The Gita is a thousand years at least older than your Xtian cult. To them, you're the heretics. "Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government." Edited January 7, 2018 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
blackbird Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: It most certainly is. To an atheist, you're all snake-oil salesmen. The Gita is a thousand years at least older than your Xtian cult. To them, you're the heretics. "Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government." Maybe that's why the missionary I met who spent twenty years in India didn't see anyone converted. Guess they have their Gita. Unless you really spoke the language well, you probably wouldn't get anywhere. But I don't know. Maybe he didn't know what he was doing and wasn't really called to the task. Yes there are cults that come to the door, much like snake oil salesman. But I don't believe what the Bible says is a hoax. I think it's legit. Edited January 7, 2018 by blackbird Quote
blackbird Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 I would add that people only become believers if God calls them. They don't become believers because of a preacher or some gimmick like a snake oil salesman. That's not how God works. We don't need slippery preachers or crafty characters. The truth is what matters. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, blackbird said: Maybe that's why the missionary I met who spent twenty years in India didn't see anyone converted. Guess they have their Gita. Unless you really spoke the language well, you probably wouldn't get anywhere. But I don't know. Maybe he didn't know what he was doing and wasn't really called to the task. You exist in your bubble of certainty. But the fact is, Hinduism...as an example of a non Jewish cult...developed before and completely independently of your Johnny-come-late Xtian cult. Krishna and Arjuna deal with morality...etc. Although that Krishna was a scamp with the ladies, I understand. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, blackbird said: I would add that people only become believers if God calls them. They don't become believers because of a preacher or some gimmick like a snake oil salesman. That's not how God works. We don't need slippery preachers or crafty characters. The truth is what matters. If you were born in Afghanistan, you'd be doing your cult thing with the Allahu Akbar added. Religion is a cultural phenomena. Not divine...though cult members think so. As I said...great tunes, though. Islam has none of that... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
blackbird Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, DogOnPorch said: You exist in your bubble of certainty. But the fact is, Hinduism...as an example of a non Jewish cult...developed before and completely independently of your Johnny-come-late Xtian cult. Krishna and Arjuna deal with morality...etc. Although that Krishna was a scamp with the ladies, I understand. Well, no. christianity goes back to the beginning in the Bible, that is, several thousand years. Before Christ came 2000 years ago, you had the Old Testament. That all started with Adam and Eve and the geneology is even given in the Bible leading up to Noah and the great flood. Then the geneology is given from Noah down through the ages. So I think the Old Testament going back to Abraham or Noah is around 3,500 years. I don't know anything about Hindism, but it can probably be easily shown to be false with the Bible. Quote
?Impact Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 5 hours ago, taxme said: then we will know that our lives will always be under surveillance forever So what is new? The eyes of the Lord are in every place, beholding the evil and the good. = Proverbs 15:3 Behold, the eye of the Lord is upon them that fear him, upon them that hope in his mercy; - Psalm 33:18 Quote
blackbird Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: If you were born in Afghanistan, you'd be doing your cult thing with the Allahu Akbar added. Religion is a cultural phenomena. Not divine...though cult members think so. As I said...great tunes, though. Islam has none of that... Well, if one knows the Bible, he is in a unique position to show how these other religions are false.. I don't claim to know the Bible that well, but anyone can find out certain things about what the Bible teaches through the internet for example. One can find out what the difference is for example between what the Bible says and Hinduism or between the Bible and Islam. It doesn't take a Bible scholar to google these subjects. The information about Islam, Hinduism, and the what the Bible teaches is all there on the internet. One can Google it without knowing much about what's in the Bible and still find the information. Edited January 7, 2018 by blackbird Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, blackbird said: Well, no. christianity goes back to the beginning in the Bible, that is, several thousand years. Before Christ came 2000 years ago, you had the Old Testament. That all started with Adam and Eve and the geneology is even given in the Bible leading up to Noah and the great flood. Then the geneology is given from Noah down through the ages. So I think the Old Testament going back to Abraham or Noah is around 3,500 years. I don't know anything about Hindism, but it can probably be easily shown to be false with the Bible. Christianity is from the time of Christ..33AD Christianity...like Islam...is guilty of Iconoclasm and Appropriation. Christianity stole the cult of Judaism to fill in their own gaps while demonizing the Jews in their own home. Christ Killers...and such. Nice fellows that you were in those days....up until not that long ago...heh. Right? No more of that genocide...looks bad. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, blackbird said: Well, if one knows the Bible, he is in a unique position to show how these other religions are false. A true cult member. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
blackbird Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Christianity is from the time of Christ..33AD Christianity...like Islam...is guilty of Iconoclasm and Appropriation. Christianity stole the cult of Judaism to fill in their own gaps while demonizing the Jews in their own home. Christ Killers...and such. Nice fellows that you were in those days....up until not that long ago...heh. Right? No more of that genocide...looks bad. You have a misunderstanding of christianity. Before Christ came true believers in God did follow Jusaism. That is true. That was the way God ordained to be worshipped from the beginning when he called certain men such as Abraham to the promised land. Anyone could join and worship the true God. They would then become a convert and become a Jew. There may be a special name for them but can't remember right now. So there were true believers in Old Testament times that were not called christians. After Christ came, the Old Testament way of worship was set aside by christianity. Jews who believe in Christ like the Apostle Paul were converted to Christianity. Quote
blackbird Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 Just got the dinner call. be back after a bit or bite Haha. Quote
?Impact Posted January 7, 2018 Report Posted January 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, blackbird said: After Christ came, the Old Testament way of worship was set aside by christianity. What does that mean? Did God/Jesus have something to say about it, or just Rome? Quote
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