DogOnPorch Posted March 26, 2017 Report Posted March 26, 2017 (edited) 48 minutes ago, GostHacked said: So, even after all these years we are still here and not destroyed by any kind of terrorism. Good to know. Feel free... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Muslim_conquests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_Persia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_conquest_of_Afghanistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquests_of_the_Indian_subcontinent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_conquest_of_Hispania https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_invasion_of_Gaul https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_Sicily https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_Egypt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_the_Maghreb ...notice a trend? I mean besides the word 'conquest'.... Islam behaves as it always has. Same as it ever was, same as it ever was... Where Islam conquers, Sharia follows. But, I'm not stopping you from defending Islam from the likes of me. Islam needs all the help it can get if it is to take over the whole planet. Edited March 26, 2017 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
AngusThermopyle Posted March 30, 2017 Report Posted March 30, 2017 It appears there is a case of selective blindness at work here, maybe more than one. So Canada is backwards because of our legal provisions governing marriage, but Turkey is highly advanced. Far more so than Canada. So, how would the poster rationalize this? I'd say it's a stereotypical case of Sharia and Islam in general at work but I'm sure our illustrious poster will attempt to minimize or justify it, whilst simultaneously preaching about the backwards evils of Canada and the west in general. 2 Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
hot enough Posted March 30, 2017 Report Posted March 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, AngusThermopyle said: It appears there is a case of selective blindness at work here, maybe more than one. So Canada is backwards because of our legal provisions governing marriage, but Turkey is highly advanced. Far more so than Canada. So, how would the poster rationalize this? I'd say it's a stereotypical case of Sharia and Islam in general at work but I'm sure our illustrious poster will attempt to minimize or justify it, whilst simultaneously preaching about the backwards evils of Canada and the west in general. Definitely more than one "case of selective blindness at work here", Angus. Canada is backwards in a number of ways, and forward thinking in others. Canada has been committing and denying a genocide for over a century, in keeping with their much more genocidal neighbors southward. Canada has supported, in an up and down fashion, the myriad illegal invasions of sovereign nations by the US. That means Canada has involved itself in war crimes. Absolutely there are things in other countries that could be made better, but Canada and the US are in no position to be lecturing about "our legal provisions governing marriage" when they have just recently crawled out of the dark ages themselves. Quote
AngusThermopyle Posted March 30, 2017 Report Posted March 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, hot enough said: Definitely more than one "case of selective blindness at work here", Angus. Canada is backwards in a number of ways, and forward thinking in others. Canada has been committing and denying a genocide for over a century, in keeping with their much more genocidal neighbors southward. Canada has supported, in an up and down fashion, the myriad illegal invasions of sovereign nations by the US. That means Canada has involved itself in war crimes. Absolutely there are things in other countries that could be made better, but Canada and the US are in no position to be lecturing about "our legal provisions governing marriage" when they have just recently crawled out of the dark ages themselves. You have an interesting view of Canada, one that I personally do not share. I would be interested to hear what you consider to be Canada's active genocide. Who is the target of this genocide and where is it happening? As for the illegal invasions you mentioned, what exactly are they and can you provide judgements, international condemnations clarifying the illegality of Canada's actions? 2 Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
hot enough Posted March 30, 2017 Report Posted March 30, 2017 Another "case of selective blindness at work here", Angus. I shan't waste my time when it likely be ruled as "off topic". There is another thread that will cover it all, I hope. Quote
Altai Posted March 30, 2017 Author Report Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, AngusThermopyle said: It appears there is a case of selective blindness at work here, maybe more than one. So Canada is backwards because of our legal provisions governing marriage, but Turkey is highly advanced. Far more so than Canada. So, how would the poster rationalize this? I'd say it's a stereotypical case of Sharia and Islam in general at work but I'm sure our illustrious poster will attempt to minimize or justify it, whilst simultaneously preaching about the backwards evils of Canada and the west in general. I have made a survey and I found out child marriage rates are %40 in Canada. Sorry I cant prove my claim but I am HoulaHula University marriage research commissioner Thanks Edited March 30, 2017 by Altai 2 Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
AngusThermopyle Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 11 hours ago, Altai said: I have made a survey and I found out child marriage rates are %40 in Canada. Sorry I cant prove my claim but I am HoulaHula University marriage research commissioner Thanks In other words your statement is meaningless, without any form of proof. Thanks for playing. 1 Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
Altai Posted March 31, 2017 Author Report Posted March 31, 2017 2 hours ago, AngusThermopyle said: In other words your statement is meaningless, without any form of proof. Thanks for playing. Why you dont trust me ? you are expecting us to believe in an XXXX person from XXX university but you reject to believe our claims. You know there are always "surveys" done by some universities. We estimate that numbers are much higher, because these marriages in Canada is not reported to govt. So its about %70 or more. Deal with it. 2 Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Goddess Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 19 hours ago, Altai said: I have made a survey and I found out child marriage rates are %40 in Canada. Sorry I cant prove my claim but I am HoulaHula University marriage research commissioner Thanks You know, if someone else made an outlandish claim and then said "Yeah, I can't prove it, just trust me",...... YOU would be screeching about how they are liars and dishonest and demand they leave the forum. This is what is most irritating about Muslims. The rules they impose on others, somehow never apply to themselves. 2 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
AngusThermopyle Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Altai said: Why you dont trust me ? you are expecting us to believe in an XXXX person from XXX university but you reject to believe our claims. You know there are always "surveys" done by some universities. We estimate that numbers are much higher, because these marriages in Canada is not reported to govt. So its about %70 or more. Deal with it. Sorry but you're just spouting made up none sense. I've done a search and didn't come up with anything on child brides/forced marriages in Canada except among immigrants, including those from Turkey. There are a few among Christian immigrants though, however these are in the minority and Canada is actively working to eliminate this practice. The following article looks at this specific subject and gives an idea about the numbers. I'm sure there are more cases that aren't known about. As you can see this is not a problem that is native to Canada but rather imported from other places. Interestingly the majority of cases are among Muslims. If you wish to answer please do so with credible information, or remove yourself from the forum forever. Thank you. https://www.thestar.com/news/investigations/2013/09/20/forced_marriages_a_hidden_problem_in_canada.html Edited March 31, 2017 by AngusThermopyle 2 Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
AngusThermopyle Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 22 hours ago, hot enough said: Another "case of selective blindness at work here", Angus. I shan't waste my time when it likely be ruled as "off topic". There is another thread that will cover it all, I hope. How convenient. Make claims and then when questioned on them just say it's off topic and refuse to answer. Good enough, your non answer tells me all I need to know. Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
hot enough Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 21 minutes ago, AngusThermopyle said: I've done a search and didn't come up with anything on child brides/forced marriages in Canada except among immigrants You missed the folks in Creston, BC. Quote
Altai Posted March 31, 2017 Author Report Posted March 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, AngusThermopyle said: Sorry but you're just spouting made up none sense. I've done a search and didn't come up with anything on child brides/forced marriages in Canada except among immigrants, including those from Turkey. There are a few among Christian immigrants though, however these are in the minority and Canada is actively working to eliminate this practice. The following article looks at this specific subject and gives an idea about the numbers. I'm sure there are more cases that aren't known about. As you can see this is not a problem that is native to Canada but rather imported from other places. Interestingly the majority of cases are among Muslims. If you wish to answer please do so with credible information, or remove yourself from the forum forever. Thank you. https://www.thestar.com/news/investigations/2013/09/20/forced_marriages_a_hidden_problem_in_canada.html You accept a claim as fact which is done by XXX person from XXX university, did you ask them to prove their claims as you ask me to prove my claim ? Is not it a hypocrsy ? Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
hot enough Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Goddess said: You know, if someone else made an outlandish claim and then said "Yeah, I can't prove it, just trust me",...... YOU would be screeching about how they are liars and dishonest and demand they leave the forum. This is what is most irritating about Muslims. The rules they impose on others, somehow never apply to themselves. I am reluctant to describe the verboten topic but that is exactly what your governments have asked you all to do, accept huge, totally unbelievable lies. And you all not only accept them, these lies that have seen millions murdered, you actually keep providing enthusiastic support for them. Tell me again why the German people were castigated for their silence on the Holocaust. Quote
Goddess Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) 50 minutes ago, hot enough said: You missed the folks in Creston, BC. The difference being that when the Creston Christians marry children, they're not applauded by the community. Edited March 31, 2017 by Goddess 1 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
hot enough Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, Goddess said: The difference being that when the Creston "Christians" marry children, they're not applauded by the community. Have you been to one of their weddings? Do they dance, celebrate with food and drink? Avoiding the big issues isn't really indicative of honesty. Quote
AngusThermopyle Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 43 minutes ago, Altai said: You accept a claim as fact which is done by XXX person from XXX university, did you ask them to prove their claims as you ask me to prove my claim ? Is not it a hypocrsy ? In fact it is not hypocrisy as I'm not asking you to prove anything. I am asking you to provide some substantiating data that would tend to validate your outlandish claims. The fact that you refuse to do so simply shows that you have nothing but made up claims with no basis in reality. Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
Goddess Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, hot enough said: Have you been to one of their weddings? Do they dance, celebrate with food and drink? Avoiding the big issues isn't really indicative of honesty. I meant the wider Christian community. I think you knew that, you just like to argue. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
hot enough Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, Goddess said: I meant the wider Christian community. I think you knew that, you just like to argue. And you don't like to discuss the hard issues, ones that college graduates should not shrink from, ones that illustrate that you are supporting war crimes and terrorism equal to what the Nazis did, war crimes that saw them hang. Quote
GostHacked Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 On 3/26/2017 at 2:28 PM, DogOnPorch said: But, I'm not stopping you from defending Islam from the likes of me. Islam needs all the help it can get if it is to take over the whole planet. I'll defend Islam to the extent I defend other religions. I do NOT defend radical Islamic views. You do this every fucking time, and each time you are wrong. Well you are free to be a troll. It's allowed here. Not to mention we are STILL HERE after all this terrorism. Quote
hot enough Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, Goddess said: I meant the wider Christian community. The wider Christian community who actively participated in genocide, that wider Christian community? The ones who seem to be silent now as the world goes through more. [I know there have to be some good christians] Quote
Goddess Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 10 minutes ago, hot enough said: The wider Christian community who actively participated in genocide, that wider Christian community? The ones who seem to be silent now as the world goes through more. [I know there have to be some good christians] The mental gymnastics you go through to tie 9/11 and the evil West into any topic is really quite amazing. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
hot enough Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, Goddess said: The mental gymnastics you go through to tie 9/11 and the evil West into any topic is really quite amazing. I was referring to the genocide against First Nations. Isn't genocide evil in your mind? Quote
Goddess Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, hot enough said: I was referring to the genocide against First Nations. Isn't genocide evil in your mind? Oh, it is! For sure. I just don't have the mental capacity that you do to link the topic of marrying underage children to First Nations genocide. 1 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Altai Posted March 31, 2017 Author Report Posted March 31, 2017 20 minutes ago, AngusThermopyle said: In fact it is not hypocrisy as I'm not asking you to prove anything. I am asking you to provide some substantiating data that would tend to validate your outlandish claims. The fact that you refuse to do so simply shows that you have nothing but made up claims with no basis in reality. And I am providing you the data. Data is "I have made a survey". What data these XXX persons from XXX universty provide to you ? They just use their positions to back up their unknown-random claims. We all know it well that how so-called paid-scientists or how so called paid-journalists prepare fake-false contents. Even in this forum there is a person claims of being a "scientists" and rejects to back up his claim about an issue I was attepted to discuss You are amateurishly trying to blame child-early age marriages on Islam over Turkiye. You are also playing with me my game "do it or leave forum for ever game". Okay I accept your offer. Will you leave forum for ever if I refute your claim ? I will leave forum if I cant do that, I promise. Lets game begin !!! Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
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