eyeball Posted March 7, 2017 Report Posted March 7, 2017 Vault 7 Quote The documents cover a range of topics, including what appeared to be a discussion about how to compromise smart televisions and turn them into improvised surveillance devices. It's not like we weren't warned this would happen. Quote A "substantial library" of digital espionage techniques borrowed from Russia and other countries is in the data as well, WikiLeaks said. Ayers noted that WikiLeaks has promised to release more CIA documents, saying Tuesday's publication was just "the first full part of the series." "The damage right now is relatively high-level," he said. "(But) the potential for really detailed damage will come in the following releases." I suppose we can take some comfort in the likelihood that most of the effort governments put into this is mostly directed at other governments instead of ordinary people but all the same, the paranoia must run awfully deep amongst extra-ordinary people. It's hard to imagine governments are that afraid of us but...even Kim Jong il looks normal these days. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
hot enough Posted March 7, 2017 Report Posted March 7, 2017 Kim Jong Un and the poor people of Korea have been subjected to over a century of terrorism and the rankest of propaganda. Quote
?Impact Posted March 8, 2017 Report Posted March 8, 2017 I started to look at the Embedded Development Branch tools. So far nothing really earth shattering there, in fact I am surprised at how little was there compared to the hacking community in general. I guess the [alleged] confirmation that the government is in the spy business might shock some, but this is far from what is portrayed on prime time television every day. About the only thing I found a little surprising is how old much of this (what I have looked at so far) is. Naturally I have only taken a cursory look, and specifically at technology I am familiar with and interested in, and Wikileaks says this is only a limited sample. There are some interesting teasing stubs, but nothing behind them. Does that mean that Wikileaks has the content and is not sharing it? Does that mean that the CIA is actually doing some of these exploits and managed to keep it secret? Is it just a honeypot? Quote
Guest Posted March 8, 2017 Report Posted March 8, 2017 It's good to know the CIA is on the ball. I wonder how many people will die now because smart tv sales go down. Quote
Argus Posted March 11, 2017 Report Posted March 11, 2017 I wonder when WikiLeaks will start leaking details of Russian, Chinese, Iranian or North Korean hacking and surveillance... Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
OftenWrong Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 6 hours ago, Argus said: I wonder when WikiLeaks will start leaking details of Russian, Chinese, Iranian or North Korean hacking and surveillance... Don't hold your breath waiting. I wouldn't be surprised if those countries are actually providing support to Wikileaks. Tell you what, if I was the president of USA I'd be looking for some heads to roll right about now. Quote
eyeball Posted March 12, 2017 Author Report Posted March 12, 2017 The President of the USA right now loves Wikileaks so like you say, don't hold your breath. OTOH maybe he was just faking it. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Wilber Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 The Presidents opinion depends on who they are releasing info about today. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
dre Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 17 hours ago, Argus said: I wonder when WikiLeaks will start leaking details of Russian, Chinese, Iranian or North Korean hacking and surveillance... About 7 years ago. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
dre Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 10 hours ago, OftenWrong said: Don't hold your breath waiting. I wouldn't be surprised if those countries are actually providing support to Wikileaks. Not very likely. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
OftenWrong Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, dre said: Not very likely. Hard to prove and doesn't matter. Point is they have the same overall agenda- a one sided revelation of info (IE propaganda) to confuse and bring harm to the general public. Releases like this empower criminals and present a threat to international stability. Assange is a villain. Edited March 12, 2017 by OftenWrong Quote
?Impact Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Assange is a villain. Not according to US President Donald Trump when he stated emphatically "I love Wikileaks". Quote
OftenWrong Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Not according to US President Donald Trump when he stated emphatically "I love Wikileaks". That was said during the election campaign when wikileaks exposed Hillary's criminality. Quote
Argus Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 40 minutes ago, dre said: Not very likely. It's very clear that Wikileaks has a close relationship with the Russians and Putin's people provide them with much of their information. Wikileaks rapist founder is one of those smarmy anti-West leftists who will take help from anywhere in the world he can get it as long as it helps him in his goal to rub western noses in the dirt. Just look at Snowden comfortably ensconced in Putin's Russia, where every dump he takes will be analyzed by the FSB still bleating about the evil Americans. Hell, he's probably working with Russian hackers, in fact. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 21 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: That was said during the election campaign when wikileaks exposed Hillary's criminality. What criminality was that? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
dre Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 28 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Hard to prove and doesn't matter. Point is they have the same overall agenda- a one sided revelation of info (IE propaganda) to confuse and bring harm to the general public. Releases like this empower criminals and present a threat to international stability. Assange is a villain. Well Assange has released a lot of stuff that has caused problems for China. He has also described them as Wikileaks "main technological enemy", and wrote a number of essays on how to make things hard for authority regimes, that were focused on China. Quote In an interview with the left-leaning British weekly magazine the New Statesman, Assange called China the “worst offender” for its censorship of information online. “China has aggressive and sophisticated technology that places itself between every reader inside China and every information source outside China,” Assange told the magazine. “We’ve been fighting a running battle to make sure we can get information through.” Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Argus Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 1 minute ago, dre said: Well Assange has released a lot of stuff that has caused problems for China. Like? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
dre Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Argus said: It's very clear that Wikileaks has a close relationship with the Russians and Putin's people provide them with much of their information. Wikileaks rapist founder is one of those smarmy anti-West leftists who will take help from anywhere in the world he can get it as long as it helps him in his goal to rub western noses in the dirt. Just look at Snowden comfortably ensconced in Putin's Russia, where every dump he takes will be analyzed by the FSB still bleating about the evil Americans. Hell, he's probably working with Russian hackers, in fact. Just a bunch of BS assumptions and made up facts. Leak media is best thing thats happened for both easterners and westerners in a very long time. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
dre Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Argus said: Like? Go to wikileaks China site and read some of the documents. The recent leak of state department cables comes to mind... It risks jeopardizing the relationship between China and its largest trading partner. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
OftenWrong Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, Argus said: What criminality was that? Covering up the email investigation. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Covering up the email investigation. How was it covered up? The FBI went directly to the public, during the campaign, arguably torpedoing her chances for victory. She wasn't even part of the government at that time. Maybe you just made a mistake in your assertion here? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
OftenWrong Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Maybe you just made a mistake in your assertion here? "After receiving a subpoena for her emails, Clinton insiders discussed strategies to use as an excuse not to release all of her emails. It appeared to constitute a conscious effort of the Clinton camp to frustrate and delay a congressional subpoena."Link I looked it up. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 Ok, somebody from her camp emailed someone to suggest delaying the release of subpoena'd emails ? That is what you're calling "Hillary's criminal cover-up". It's a bit of a stretch in terms of the terms "cover-up" and "Hillary" but I can accept that. Thanks for the clarity. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 Also - I don't accept the Washington Times as a source, generally. It was owned by a strange cult and does not try to be objective. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
OftenWrong Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 It's just news about circumstances that took place at the time. That is what the investigation found. No interpretation or opinion was provided. Other sources of this story can be provided, if necessary. Quote
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