Why all the worldwide turmoil? (9/11 thread)

[hot enough]

23 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Because super duper nanothermite used for 911 hijacker attacks only exists in the imaginations of those with a completely different agenda.

Discuss that.....

 

This has been put squarely in front of you, in front of Michael, in front of all the science deniers, before. You all DEFINITELY know of its existence. Why are you still irrationally, unbelievably, denying the existence of nanothermite when it is described by US scientists, US scientists from Lawrence Livermore Labs?

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At Livermore Laboratory, sol-gel chemistry-the same process used to make aerogels or "frozen smoke" (see S&TR, November/December 1995)—has been the key to creating energetic materials with improved, exceptional, or entirely new properties. This energetic materials breakthrough was engineered by Randy Simpson, director of the Energetic Materials Center; synthetic chemists Tom Tillotson, Alex Gash, and Joe Satcher; and physicist Lawrence Hrubesh.
These new materials have structures that can be controlled on the nanometer (billionth-of-a-meter) scale. Simpson explains, "In general, the smaller the size of the materials being combined, the better the properties of energetic materials. Since these `nanostructures' are formed with particles on the nanometer scale, the performance can be improved over materials with particles the size of grains of sand or of powdered sugar. In addition, these `nanocomposite' materials can be easier and much safer to make than those made with traditional methods."

https://str.llnl.gov/str/RSimpson.html

Why haven't these honest US scientists stepped forward to confirm the science described by the Harrit, Jones et al scientific paper describing the nanothermite and the voluminous, some 6% of WTC dust, residues of thermitic reactions, of these nanothermite reactions.

The only logical conclusion a body with a brain, a thinking adult can draw is that these nanothermites were responsible for the explosive demoltions of WTCs 1, 2 and 7.

But still there is stone cold silence from you adults, while a young lady points up your not at all responsible adult like behavior.

 

 

[hot enough]

Here are more scientific authorities, describing the nanothermite, with pictures for the adults, video for the adults, of unreacted particles found in WTC dust, which when heated undergo a thermitic reaction, giving the same chemical signature as thermite, but as you already know, from the Lawrence Livermore scientists, this is nanothermite. 

You only have to watch a minute or so to see the undeniable which you are falling all over yourself to deny. WHY?

9-11: Military nano thermite unknown to the general public found in the dust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA-AqM7JNuo

 

[Charles Anthony]

Folks,

Please avoid posting personal attacks. 

[Altai]

@hot enough

The possiblity of thermite seems quite illogical to me. Because I have searched for it and they need at least a bucket full of thermite to melt train rails and these rails are about 100-150 cubic centimeter thick. TTowers had about 100 steel columns and half of it were the thickest ones and each one of these thickest ones was about 7000 cubic centimere thick. So it seems like they would need 70 buckets full of thermite to melt only one column and totally about 5000-6000 buckets for all the columns. We also should consider that they have to melt columns from various floors and 7000 buckets for each floors. They also should put these 7000 buckets of thermite into reaction at the same time using a trigger heat source. 

So, I dont give any possiblity for thermite. 

[hot enough]

6 hours ago, Altai said:

@hot enough

The possiblity of thermite seems quite illogical to me. Because I have searched for it and they need at least a bucket full of thermite to melt train rails and these rails are about 100-150 cubic centimeter thick. TTowers had about 100 steel columns and half of it were the thickest ones and each one of these thickest ones was about 7000 cubic centimere thick. So it seems like they would need 70 buckets full of thermite to melt only one column and totally about 5000-6000 buckets for all the columns. We also should consider that they have to melt columns from various floors and 7000 buckets for each floors. They also should put these 7000 buckets of thermite into reaction at the same time using a trigger heat source. 

So, I dont give any possiblity for thermite. 

That would be regular thermite, Altai, which can, in and of itself, readily melt and cut thru steel beams and columns One can't do any research on nanothermite because it isn't available because it is SOLELY a US government military grade high explosive.

Again,

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These new materials have structures that can be controlled on the nanometer (billionth-of-a-meter) scale. Simpson explains, "In general, the smaller the size of the materials being combined, the better the properties of energetic materials. Since these `nanostructures' are formed with particles on the nanometer scale, the performance can be improved over materials with particles the size of grains of sand or of powdered sugar. In addition, these `nanocomposite' materials can be easier and much safer to make than those made with traditional methods."

https://str.llnl.gov/str/RSimpson.html

 

 

See, 9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate

 

Nano sized particles increase the explosive power by a factor that is unknown to the general public, unknown to demolition experts because it and its properties, other than in a general sense like that described above, is unknown to everyone except secretive US government folks. 

Why hasn't the honest, upfront US government told everyone like the 911 Commission, NIST, the people who govern them, that the nanothermite and the nanothermite residues found in WTC dust, not just a wee bit of residue, about 6% of the dust is nanothermite residue and UNREACTED nanothermite particles is a material that the ALLEGED HIJACKERS COULD NOT HAVE HAD, nor could they have obtained it, and even if they could have obtained it they couldn't have ferried it over to WTC7?

There is NO legal or legitimate reason for nanothermite or even regular thermite to have been at WTC. Its presence tells the whole story. As does the molten and vaporized steel, as does the free fall, the acceleration of the twin towers, the ... .

 

 

Edited April 5, 2017 by hot enough

[bush_cheney2004]

More of the same nano-nonsense....super duper nano thermite is neither a high explosive or energetic enough to blow down large steel structures.

It would take many, many tonnes of thermite to destroy the WTC.

There was no "nano thermite" at the WTC, except in some people's imaginations.

 

Edited April 5, 2017 by bush_cheney2004

[Altai]

@hot enough

I dont know, maybe nano thermite would cover much smaller volume than normal thermite but it should be placed on many columns in many floors. I dont know how would someones achieve it. thats for sure there are somethings anormal and there is a story behind this event but how ? There are also some people claims that the towers were destroyed through its emergency demolition scheme which was prepared at the beginning of their construction, even before their construction. 

[hot enough]

9 minutes ago, Altai said:

@hot enough

I dont know, maybe nano thermite would cover much smaller volume than normal thermite but it should be placed on many columns in many floors. I dont know how would someones achieve it. thats for sure there are somethings anormal and there is a story behind this event but how ? There are also some people claims that the towers were destroyed through its emergency demolition scheme which was prepared at the beginning of their construction, even before their construction. 

Explosives don't have to be placed on a lot of floors. The French do Verinage, which uses no explosives, just a hydraulic initiation and then they use the weight of floors to crush other floors. 

[hot enough]

36 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

More of the same nano-nonsense....super duper nano thermite is neither a high explosive or energetic enough to blow down large steel structures.

 

You have never once been a poster that has proven anything, B_C. All you do is make wild, completely unsupported assertions. Like on  your WT and the Interstate Bridge fiasco, your Dwain Deets graphic fiasco, your myriad fiascos. 

[hot enough]

39 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

There was no "nano thermite" at the WTC, except in some people's imaginations.

"nanothermite"

What is wrong with you that you can so readily deny reality? Are you of the opinion, one of many of your opinions, never with any supporting facts, that you are exhibiting a scientific approach?

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Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

https://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ-2-7.pdf

[bush_cheney2004]

10 minutes ago, hot enough said:

You have never once been a poster that has proven anything, B_C. All you do is make wild, completely unsupported assertions. Like on  your WT and the Interstate Bridge fiasco, your Dwain Deets graphic fiasco, your myriad fiascos. 

 

Repeat after me:   THERE - WERE - NO - SUPER - NANO - THERMITE - PARTICLES - FOUND - AT - THE - WORLD - TRADE - CENTER.

The entire premise is false....particles reported as "thermitic" residue are easily proven to be common and expected from corrosion inhibitors and products of the conflagration through spectral analysis.

Edited April 5, 2017 by bush_cheney2004

[hot enough]

44 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

More of the same nano-nonsense....super duper nano thermite is neither a high explosive or energetic enough to blow down large steel structures.

It would take many, many tonnes of thermite to destroy the WTC.

There was no "nano thermite" at the WTC, except in some people's imaginations.

 

 

Just a few posts before, this video, which you didn't watch, because you are so dedicated to science, describes the nanothermite found at WTC.

9-11: Military nano thermite unknown to the general public found in the dust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA-AqM7JNuo

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, hot enough said:

 

9-11: Military nano thermite unknown to the general public found in the dust

 

 

Sorrrry...this be nano-nonsense.   It is not credible and incapable of large building demolition.

[hot enough]

11 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

particles reported as "thermitic" residue are easily proven to be common and expected from corrosion inhibitors and products of the conflagration through spectral analysis.

Completely false! And you would have known this had you watched the video. Very very dishonest, unbelievably dishonest. I suggest that you seek help, right away. Please. 

Edited April 5, 2017 by hot enough

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, hot enough said:

Completely false! And you would have known this had you watched the video. Very very dishonest, unbelievably dishonest. Such denial in the face od such overwhelming proof can only be a severe pathological problem. I suggest that you seek help, right away. Please. 

 

Personal attacks will not bolster your false nano thermite assertions.

You must be losing the debate.....

[hot enough]

5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Personal attacks will not bolster your false nano thermite assertions.

You must be losing the debate.....

It is not a personal attack. It is a plea for you to seek help. 

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, hot enough said:

It is not a personal attack. It is a plea for you to seek help. 

 

No help needed...mocking obvious 911 conspiracy posts actually is quite healthy.  

Thank you for the opportunity !

[Altai]

13 minutes ago, hot enough said:

Explosives don't have to be placed on a lot of floors. The French do Verinage, which uses no explosives, just a hydraulic initiation and then they use the weight of floors to crush other floors. 

Then this also refutes my claim that the lower floors could resist the pressure done by upper floors.

Here I found a video, which trys to explain what I was trying to say but still there are lack in some points in this video, they dont calculate the resistance power of each floors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_842608&feature=iv&src_vid=FCjEi4z2KZA&v=GsW6Md9LmdY

[hot enough]

7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

No help needed...mocking obvious 911 conspiracy posts actually is quite healthy.  

Thank you for the opportunity !

Finally, a tiny measure of honesty. This is illustrative of what you have always done, what you always do, B_C. You never discuss any science, you make a mockery of science, you mock yourself with your fabrications and distortions and you receive support for doing so. 

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, hot enough said:

Finally, a tiny measure of honesty. This is illustrative of what you have always done, what you always do, B_C. You never discuss any science, you make a mockery of science, you mock yourself with your fabrications and distortions and you receive support for doing so. 

 

No, I have provided plenty of science (physics) and engineering, but in a purposely mocking way.  

Because it is so easy to mock and debunk such nano nonsense with..."science".

"What about Building 7 ?!?!"     LOL !

[hot enough]

5 minutes ago, Altai said:

Then this also refutes my claim that the lower floors could resist the pressure done by upper floors.

No, it doesn't, at all, Altai. Verinage works because there are careful calculations done to ensure that there is actually enough power in the falling portion to destroy the remaining portion. 

The most important thing to remember and this is CRUCIAL, I cannot emphasize it enough - there are always JOLTS, ie. the upper portions of the structures always slow down, following Newton's Third Law - the twin towers accelerated which goes against Newton's Third Law, which is impossible, which shows everyone that the twin towers were controlled demolitions.

[hot enough]

8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

I have provided plenty of science (physics) and engineering,

Show one time you have ever done this.

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, hot enough said:

Show one time you have ever done this.

 

911 Research link.....complete with physics and chemistry..proving that nano thermite is nano nonsense.

[hot enough]

That everyone has fled, that there are no people able to point out the "rock solid evidence" for the US official conspiracy theory tells it all.

911 is one huge lie from start to finish and those who so strongly believed are in a state of shock, wondering how they could have believed such utter nonsense. Those would be the mildly honest ones. There are others, who also know that the jig is up, who still express this irrational denial you see here. 

[hot enough]

7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

911 Research link.....complete with physics and chemistry..proving that nano thermite is nano nonsense.

Another dead B_C link. Typical. Why do you seek to embarrass yourself so? Why?