The_Squid Posted January 13, 2017 Report Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Boges said: Harper was having to appease the opposition with a stimulus plan LOL Of course it was someone else's fault that Harper spent $100k+ promoting his gov't policies. Of course, Harper took no questions and it lasted an hour. You would be bitching if Trudeau stayed in his office too.... 35 minutes ago, Boges said: a woman chastised him over her high Hydro bill and he didn't have any answers for her and blamed the province. So you think Hydro is a federal responsibility? Edited January 13, 2017 by The_Squid Quote
Boges Posted January 13, 2017 Report Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The_Squid said: LOL Of course it was someone else's fault that Harper spent $100k+ promoting his gov't policies. Well it was something that was done because of the coupe attempt. Regardless Harper had faced lots of criticism promoting his economic action plan. Seems JT is no different. Quote So you think Hydro is a federal responsibility? When you're forcing provinces to buy into carbon pricing it is. Granted Ontario didn't really need any convincing to start up with Carbon Pricing. The main reason why Kathleen Wynne is the least popular politician in the country. The point is, we're 3 years away from an election, why is JT on the campaign trail? At least in 2009, Harper had a minority government, so he could be facing an election anytime. Edited January 13, 2017 by Boges Quote
blueblood Posted January 13, 2017 Report Posted January 13, 2017 http://globalnews.ca/news/3179769/justin-trudeau-confronted-by-sobbing-ontario-woman-over-cost-of-hydro-bill/ there is an imbedded video on the article which doesn't make Trudeau look good. He essentially says carbon pricing is coming and that it's ts for people making 50k in rural Ontario. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
The_Squid Posted January 13, 2017 Report Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Boges said: Well it was something that was done because of the coupe attempt. Regardless Harper had faced lots of criticism promoting his economic action plan. Guess what JT is no different. You missed the point.... you're complaining that he is even out there doing this tour, but when Harper does it, no complaints... or it was someone else's fault... 3 minutes ago, Boges said: When you're forcing provinces to buy into carbon pricing it is. No... hydro is not a federal responsibility. Try again. Moving away from dirty electric power is a good thing. Edited January 13, 2017 by The_Squid Quote
Boges Posted January 13, 2017 Report Posted January 13, 2017 Just now, The_Squid said: You missed the point.... you're complaining that he is even out there doing this tour, but when Harper does it, no complaints... or it was someone else's fault... I wasn't on this board in 2009. Cite a thread where this was an issue. The event cited certainly wasn't a tour though. Quote No... hydro is not a federal responsibility. Try again. Moving away from dirty hydro is a good thing. The forced Carbon Pricing can be seen a Federal Issue. Quote
The_Squid Posted January 13, 2017 Report Posted January 13, 2017 Just now, Boges said: I wasn't on this board in 2009. Cite a thread where this was an issue. The event cited certainly wasn't a tour though. It wasn't an issue.... nor should it be. Anyone with half a brain realizes that the PM will be out delivering the gov't message. That's part of what they do. What we have on this board is people complaining for the sake of complaining... cuz Trudeau!! Quote
Boges Posted January 13, 2017 Report Posted January 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, The_Squid said: It wasn't an issue.... nor should it be. Anyone with half a brain realizes that the PM will be out delivering the gov't message. That's part of what they do. What we have on this board is people complaining for the sake of complaining... cuz Trudeau!! A politician that's supposedly as popular as Trudeau is shouldn't need to. I'm also not sure what accomplishments he can point to yet. Quote
?Impact Posted January 13, 2017 Report Posted January 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Boges said: When you're forcing provinces to buy into carbon pricing it [hydro] is. That might be the case for Alberta that burns coal for the most part, but Ontario is mostly nuclear and hydro [water] with wind making up the majority of the rest. The annual results should be out soon, but a quick look at the graph for last year (excluding December) shows August with the highest oil/gas mix at about 6-7%. Quote
Argus Posted January 13, 2017 Report Posted January 13, 2017 1 hour ago, The_Squid said: No... hydro is not a federal responsibility. Try again. It is federally mandated. 1 hour ago, The_Squid said: Moving away from dirty electric power is a good thing. Tell that to people who can't afford to heat their home. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
The_Squid Posted January 13, 2017 Report Posted January 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Argus said: Tell that to people who can't afford to heat their home. Call the waaambulance! meanwhile, I'm sure they all have a cellphone... cable TV... etc, etc... Quote
Ash74 Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, The_Squid said: Call the waaambulance! meanwhile, I'm sure they all have a cellphone... cable TV... etc, etc... How will they watch TV with no electricity? How do you charge a cell phone with no power? Quote “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”― Winston S. Churchill There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein
Bob Macadoo Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, The_Squid said: Call the waaambulance! meanwhile, I'm sure they all have a cellphone... cable TV... etc, etc... She said she works 15 h/day.....70 h/week.....and only has $65 left after a pay cheque. Math magic there. I suggest she not use her toaster to heat her tent. Oh and I wonder who was covering for her in the salt mines while she was at the townhall? Quote
Ash74 Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, Bob Macadoo said: She said she works 15 h/day.....70 h/week.....and only has $65 left after a pay cheque. Math magic there. I suggest she not use her toaster to heat her tent. Oh and I wonder who was covering for her in the salt mines while she was at the townhall? Yes. Energy poverty is a myth. Just a bunch of people that are crying poor. Like those welfare people during the Harris years or the homeless vets. Quote “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”― Winston S. Churchill There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein
blueblood Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 37 minutes ago, The_Squid said: Call the waaambulance! meanwhile, I'm sure they all have a cellphone... cable TV... etc, etc... Unbelievable leftists trashing people who are struggling to get by. A classic example of liberal champagne limousine socialism on display. She is making a case of how she is at the breaking point of not being able to afford another tax, but let them eat cake so that the Toronto and Montreal elite can play do gooder!! Had she been living in saskatchewan she wouldn't be putting up with that nonsense! Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
The_Squid Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 $1000 per month for Hydro? Does she use the oven to heat her mansion??? Something is not adding up with this lady. I think she was after a hug from our goodlooking PM... Quote
Bob Macadoo Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 42 minutes ago, Ash74 said: Yes. Energy poverty myth. Just a bunch of peopl e that are crying poor. Like those welfare people during the Harris years or the homeless vets. Actually she said she can't keep up with her mortgage. Her stories are all over the place. Carbon tax or no she's looking for a cardboard box or she's exaggerating. Quote
Argus Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, The_Squid said: Call the waaambulance! meanwhile, I'm sure they all have a cellphone... cable TV... etc, etc... That's the kind of liberal arrogance that is going to get Wynne slaughtered next election, and possibly Trudeau as well. So much sympathy for the poor and downtrodden - unless they dare question liberal policy, of course. Edited January 14, 2017 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 38 minutes ago, The_Squid said: $1000 per month for Hydro? Does she use the oven to heat her mansion??? A lot of rural houses are old farmhouses, and they don't have the best of insulation or windows or doors, nor the money to fix them up. I have a friend who pays $500 a month. She'd like to get better windows but that would cost $20,000. A relative of mine was paying much more to heat their old farmhouse. They abandoned it for the winter and moved into an apartment in Ottawa until they can insulate it better and scrape together enough for a new furnace. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
The_Squid Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 25 minutes ago, Argus said: That's the kind of liberal arrogance that is going to get Wynne slaughtered next election, and possibly Trudeau as well. So much sympathy for the poor and downtrodden - unless they dare question liberal policy, of course. I am neither Trudeau nor Wynne..... she did get a hug. 20 minutes ago, Argus said: A lot of rural houses are old farmhouses, and they don't have the best of insulation or windows or doors, nor the money to fix them up. I have a friend who pays $500 a month. She'd like to get better windows but that would cost $20,000. A relative of mine was paying much more to heat their old farmhouse. They abandoned it for the winter and moved into an apartment in Ottawa until they can insulate it better and scrape together enough for a new furnace. $500... $1000 is double that. It sounds like she doesn't have a roof!! Quote
The_Squid Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 (edited) Her carbon-footprint is huge. This is exactly the type of wasteful inefficiency the carbon tax will get rid of. http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/portrait-of-five-ontario-hydro-bills-how-a-rural-couple-pays-500-a-month-and-toronto-brothers-pay-100 Also, if minimum wage were increased, she would make more than $50k working 75 hours per week. Or, if this is a single job she's working at, her employer is ripping her off and not paying her overtime. This lady's finances don't add up.... I think she was exaggerating. Edited January 14, 2017 by The_Squid Quote
drummindiver Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 2 hours ago, The_Squid said: Call the waaambulance! meanwhile, I'm sure they all have a cellphone... cable TV... etc, etc... Nice empathy from the left for the less fortunate. Quote
The_Squid Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, drummindiver said: Nice empathy from the left for the less fortunate. I put on my conservative hat for that post. Quote
drummindiver Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Ash74 said: Yes. Energy poverty is a myth. Just a bunch of people that are crying poor. Like those welfare people during the Harris years or the homeless vets. Yeah, like my daughter who pays $700 month and this with utilizing propane heat. 3 kids and a hustand who also works....no, it's not a myth. Quote
drummindiver Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 1 minute ago, The_Squid said: I put on my conservative hat for that post. Nice.It fits you well. Quote
The_Squid Posted January 14, 2017 Report Posted January 14, 2017 1 minute ago, drummindiver said: Yeah, like my daughter who pays $700 month and this with utilizing propane heat. 3 kids and a hustand who also works....no, it's not a myth. I think you're exaggerating too. To pay $700 would take a massive house that is extremely inefficient. It makes no sense. Quote
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