Omni Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: You're free to support Hamas. I won't stop you. I'll support Israel. I doubt you needed to repeat that minor fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Just now, Omni said: I doubt you needed to repeat that minor fact. Sorry: I didn't realize your support for the Jihadis was a source of embarrassment. With the rise of Islam in the West, being Antisemitic isn't the social pariah it once was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Sorry: I didn't realize your support for the Jihadis was a source of embarrassment. With the rise of Islam in the West, being Antisemitic isn't the social pariah it once was. If you say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Omni said: If you say so. I do: one can support Islamic Jihad these days and not face any sanctions. At the very worst, some do-gooder will try to 'deprogram you' in an officially sanctioned effort that probably provides hot lunches. Edited December 31, 2016 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: I do: one can support Islamic Jihad these days and not face any sanctions. At the very worst, some do-gooder will try to 'deprogram you' in an officially sanctioned effort that probably provides hot lunches. Perhaps you should give that a try. It might help you understand that both sides have a valid argument on the issue. Edited December 31, 2016 by Omni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Omni said: Perhaps you should give that a try. Deprogram you? No...like I've already said: you're free to support Hamas. I won't stop you. May the better side win. Edited December 31, 2016 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadianjim Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 20 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: You're free to support Hamas. I won't stop you. I'll support Israel. Hamas didn't even exist until 20 years after the illegal occupation started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, Canadianjim said: Hamas didn't even exist until 20 years after the illegal occupation started. Uhhhh...so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadianjim Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 9 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Uhhhh...so? Well what would you do if someone occupied your land? I know what I would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Just now, Canadianjim said: Well what would you do if someone occupied your land? I know what I would do. In 1967...the Gaza Strip was part of Egypt and the so-called West Bank was part of Jordan. Yasser Arafat was born in Cairo. Cairo is in Egypt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: In 1967...the Gaza Strip was part of Egypt and the so-called West Bank was part of Jordan. Yasser Arafat was born in Cairo. Cairo is in Egypt. Uhhhh...so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: In 1967...the Gaza Strip was part of Egypt and the so-called West Bank was part of Jordan. Yasser Arafat was born in Cairo. Cairo is in Egypt. Yep....I have report cards older than "Palestine". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Yep....I have report cards older than "Palestine". Moi aussi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Nobody wanted to play Arab... https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3218/arab-israeli-wars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Yep....I have report cards older than "Palestine". Can we have a look at one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Omni said: Uhhhh...so? "Palestinians" were invented by the Arab League at the 1967 Khartoum Conference. This held in the wake of Israel's stunning victory (in six days!) over the combined attacking power of the modern, Soviet supplied, Arab armies. The League had decided to dust-off the Mufti's old pro-Nazi cause with a new face (his nephew, Yasser Arafat) at the helm. Tah-dah...the PLO and PFLP were born. Soon, the airliners began to fall out of the skies as they preferred to murder tourists. Any tourists... Edited December 31, 2016 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 19 hours ago, TimG said: As I suspected. There is more to the story. But I could not find it with web searches. The only basis I had to be suspicious was the general absurdity of the list. No prawb TG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: "Palestinians" were invented by the Arab League at the 1967 Khartoum Conference. This held in the wake of Israel's stunning victory (in six days!) over the combined attacking power of the modern, Soviet supplied, Arab armies. The League had decided to dust-off the Mufti's old pro-Nazi cause with a new face (his nephew, Yasser Arafat) at the helm. Tah-dah...the PLO and PFLP were born. Soon, the airliners began to fall out of the skies as they preferred to murder tourists. Any tourists... So I guess status quo is fine with you or do you want to continue on and push all the remaining Arabs into the sea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadianjim Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 30 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Moi aussi 32 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Yep....I have report cards older than "Palestine". Really? Balfour declaration is pretty clear on what the land is called. Foreign Office November 2nd, 1917 Dear Lord Rothschild, I have much pleasure in conveying to you. on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country. I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation. Yours, Arthur James Balfour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, Canadianjim said: Really? Balfour declaration is pretty clear on what the land is called. Really ? Who died and left Canada's failed empire king of the Mideast ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadianjim Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Really ? Who died and left Canada's failed empire king of the Mideast ? Now show us your report card. Prove your integrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 7 hours ago, Canadianjim said: There will never be a 2 state solution with Netanayu. He admitted it the last israeli election. Of course he spoke out of both sides of his mouth and tried to walk it back. He says what he needs to say to further his goals. Truth be damned. All this nonsense about what the Palestinians should do is just noise. Israeli is playing the long game. They simply let this atrocity continue for decades , terrorize the Palestinians to make them eventually leave the area. Continue with their settlement building on Palestinian land confirming of course they have no interest in a 2 state solution. Please stop the propaganda noise.... It's offensive to thinking people. Your name calling only evidences you have no position to offer in debate so you insult. 1 hour ago, Canadianjim said: The PLO today recognizes Israel. However many Israeli groups do not recognize Palestine. The tactic of repeating a falsehood over and over won't make it come true. It simply reflects what your agenda is on this forum,. The PA does not recognize Israel and its refusal to recognize Israel is public knowledge. Here from the very newspaper you quoted: http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.578785 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 6 minutes ago, Canadianjim said: Really? Balfour declaration is pretty clear on what the land is called. Foreign Office November 2nd, 1917 Dear Lord Rothschild, I have much pleasure in conveying to you. on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country. I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation. Yours, Arthur James Balfour The soon to be Grand Mufti was already politically active in 1917...this after serving in the Ottoman Army in WW1. He was the counter to the Zionist Movement...who bought their land from the Sultan plus paid the Jizya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 1 minute ago, Canadianjim said: Now show us your report card. Prove your integrity. No nation of Palestine in geography class back in the early 1960's. Wasn't on the globe either....remember globes in classrooms ? Where was "Palestine" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadianjim Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Rue said: Your name calling only evidences you have no position to offer in debate so you insult. The tactic of repeating a falsehood over and over won't make it come true. It simply reflects what your agenda is on this forum,. The PA does not recognize Israel and its refusal to recognize Israel is public knowledge. Here from the very newspaper you quoted: http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.578785 You should learn to comprehend what you are reading. From the article... Abbas complained on Saturday that Palestinians were being asked for something that had not been demanded of Arab countries that have previously signed peace treaties with Israel. "We recognized Israel in mutual recognition in the (1993) Oslo agreement - why do they now ask us to recognize the Jewishness of the state?" he asked. "Why didn't they present this demand to Jordan or Egypt when they signed a peace agreement with them?" Abbas added. read more: http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.578785 Edited December 31, 2016 by Canadianjim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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