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Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You should check out what American conservative evangelicals are encouraging African governments to do in Christ's name.

American right-wing Christians are amongst the sickest puppies on the planet. So yeah, the immigration of religious fanatics is a real problem alright, conservative ones especially.

Yeah, I know there are some African countries where they can be a tad barbaric.  It's all numbers.  No-one ever said Christians don't do anything wrong.  They just can't keep up with Muslims on the barbarism scale at the moment.

Edited by bcsapper
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction - Blaise Pascal
Posted
1 minute ago, bcsapper said:

Yeah, I know there are some African countries where they can be a tad barbaric.  It's all numbers.  No-one ever said Christians don't do anything wrong.  They just can't keep up with Muslims on the barbarism scale at the moment.

That doesn't wash AFAIC.  Americans know better than to behave the way they do and just as its particularly more disgusting when a priest, a shining beacon so to speak, abuses a child so to is it particularly grotesque when America goes around knocking off democracies and exporting its own variously peculiar brands of fanaticism abroad.

The extreme Muslims have been driven that way - mostly by American foreign policy. I'm not cutting one any more slack than the other.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
1 minute ago, eyeball said:

That doesn't wash AFAIC.  Americans know better than to behave the way they do and just as its particularly more disgusting when a priest, a shining beacon so to speak, abuses a child so to is it particularly grotesque when America goes around knocking off democracies and exporting its own variously peculiar brands of fanaticism abroad.

 

But it's OK when Canada does it, right ?   Because it never was a shining beacon, just a hockey power.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That doesn't wash AFAIC.  Americans know better than to behave the way they do and just as its particularly more disgusting when a priest, a shining beacon so to speak, abuses a child so to is it particularly grotesque when America goes around knocking off democracies and exporting its own variously peculiar brands of fanaticism abroad.

The extreme Muslims have been driven that way - mostly by American foreign policy. I'm not cutting one any more slack than the other.

No.  People know better than to behave that way. Most of them. Some of them behave that way anyway. 

Posted
Just now, eyeball said:

No its not okay at all when we do it. It's even more disgusting in fact.

 

No it's not, or it wouldn't happen in the first place.   It is purposeful foreign policy, without shame.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

No.  People know better than to behave that way. Most of them. Some of them behave that way anyway. 

No what? Millions upon millions of Americans and Canadians have voted for acting this way for decades now. You might have a point if Muslims had been left with or given the same 'opportunity'.

Edited by eyeball

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

No it's not, or it wouldn't happen in the first place.   It is purposeful foreign policy, without shame.

That's what makes it so disgusting.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
1 minute ago, eyeball said:

No what? Millions upon millions of Americans have voted for acting this way for decades now. You might have a point if Muslims had been left with or given the same 'opportunity'.

I think they voted for tax cuts. 

Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That's what makes it so disgusting.

 

Lots of things are disgusting....big deal.   Some emigres to Canada will find some things to be "disgusting", but they will still move to Canada.

One does not preclude the other.

Edited by bush_cheney2004

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Posted
On 2016-11-16 at 5:05 PM, DogOnPorch said:

Say, "Shall I inform you of [what is] worse than that as penalty from Allah ? [It is that of] those whom Allah has cursed [Jews] and with whom He became angry and made of them apes and pigs and slaves of Taghut. Those are worse in position and further astray from the sound way."

Quran 5:60

BIBLE>

Kill People Who Don’t Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches(Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers(Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

 Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God(Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night 22:20-21 NAB)

Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

Kill Sons of Sinners(Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

God Will Kill Children(Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)

Kill Men, Women, and Children (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

Kill Old Men and Young Women(Jeremiah 51:20-26)

Posted
3 minutes ago, Canadianjim said:

BIBLE>

Kill People Who Don’t Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches(Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers(Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

 Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God(Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night 22:20-21 NAB)

Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

Kill Sons of Sinners(Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

God Will Kill Children(Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)

Kill Men, Women, and Children (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

Kill Old Men and Young Women(Jeremiah 51:20-26)

You don't seem to understand, it's not the book that matters. It's the reader. 

Posted
58 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I think they voted for tax cuts. 

They get the bad with the good and are just as responsible for the consequences of both.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted (edited)
52 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

You don't seem to understand, it's not the book that matters. It's the reader. 

You quoted the book. I quoted the book. What else have you got?

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Posted
44 minutes ago, Canadianjim said:

You quoted the book. I quoted the book. What else have you got?

No I didn't. I quoted you quoting the book. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Then stop being a hypocrite. I'm staunchly anti-religion...either you despise Islam or you do not.

No, you are very anti-muslim based on what you've posted in regards to religion. Yo don't spend the time on other religions like you do with Islam.

Posted
Just now, GostHacked said:

No, you are very anti-muslim based on what you've posted in regards to religion. Yo don't spend the time on other religions like you do with Islam.

I'm very anti-Muslim because Islam is the West's historical enemy and is currently conducting a violent campaign of murder and terror globally.

Why do you support Islam rather than condemn it? Do you like Islam's view on certain subjects?

 

 

Posted
7 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

I'm very anti-Muslim because Islam is the West's historical enemy and is currently conducting a violent campaign of murder and terror globally.

Why do you support Islam rather than condemn it? Do you like Islam's view on certain subjects?

 

 

I am with Thomas Jefferson.
Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity.

-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

Posted
15 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

I'm very anti-Muslim because Islam is the West's historical enemy and is currently conducting a violent campaign of murder and terror globally.

Why do you support Islam rather than condemn it? Do you like Islam's view on certain subjects?

 

 

I don't support it nor do I condemn it.  And for my views I deffer to you, since you think you know my thoughts. I will gladly let you misrepresent my stance.

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Canadianjim said:

Correction. Dogcatcher quoted the book. I quoted the book. Satisfied?

I was never actually dissatisfied.  It wasn't that important.

Do you really think that, wordlwide, currently, Christianity is as bad as Islam when it comes to egregious religious practices?  Thomas Jefferson notwithstanding, of course.

Edit> If I remember correctly, it's against the rules to deliberately misstate someone's name.  Careful, you'll have your first warning point.

Edited by bcsapper
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction - Blaise Pascal
Posted
6 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I was never actually dissatisfied.  It wasn't that important.

Do you really think that, wordlwide, currently, Christianity is as bad as Islam when it comes to egregious religious practices?  Thomas Jefferson notwithstanding, of course.

Edit> If I remember correctly, it's against the rules to deliberately misstate someone's name.  Careful, you'll have your first warning point.

Check what's going on with the war crimes against the Palestinians and then tell me what is the rationale that is used if not religion? You tell me.

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