Wilber Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 1 hour ago, betsy said: Could Hillary even be willing to make war.........for the sake of winning? Shades of Bill Clinton bombing Iraq to distract from the Lewinski scandal? Margaret Thatcher sure as hell did and Hillary should be at least as tough considering the crap she has taken with Bill and all you woman with power haters. Golda Meir, Indira Ghandi, Elizabeth I, Catherine the Great etc. It's a mystery to me how so many women seem to think ambition in a man is good but a flaw in a woman. No one gets to a country's top job without a ton of ambition. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
betsy Posted October 13, 2016 Author Report Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Wilber said: Margaret Thatcher sure as hell did and Hillary should be at least as tough considering the crap she has taken with Bill and all you woman with power haters. Golda Meir, Indira Ghandi, Elizabeth I, Catherine the Great etc. It's a mystery to me how so many women seem to think ambition in a man is good but a flaw in a woman. No one gets to a country's top job without a ton of ambition. No comparison with Thatcher, except that they're both women. Thatcher didn't have a Bill Clinton to use as a ladder on her climb to power. Unlike Hillary, Thatcher made it to the top on her own! Thatcher didn't squander her years in politics. And she didn't put national security at any risk.....by using personal email server, for her convenience. She didn't enable any sex offender, either. She didn't have a massive baggage that followed her, and unlike Hillary, I don't think she was ever that unpopular to women......there was not any question to her trustworthiness, and integrity. Having stayed married (and maybe martyred) to a serial cheater may be noble.....but it's not a requirement to be President. Leading the USA is not akin to Dallas, or Days Of Our Lives. Thatcher is the real icon for women. Hillary is a blight to women. In 1975, England was in economic and political trouble, which helped the Conservative Party once again gain power. As a result of this, Thatcher was appointed Britain’s first female Prime Minister in 1979. She is known for many her feats such as controlling inflation, attacking labor unions, privatizing social housing and public transport, and dealing swiftly with foreign affair conflicts. Her third term was known for reforms to the education system, National Health Service, and the local government tax system. Through her time as Prime Minister, she shared similar conservative views with her close friend and ally, U.S. President Ronald Reagan. During the annual Conservative Party conference in 1984, the Irish Republican Army bombed the hotel in which Thatcher and her cabinet were staying due to her refusal to meet their political demands. Although this hurt or caused death to several of her cabinet members, she remained unharmed and motivated to continue with the conference the next day. In response to this, she signed the Anglo-Irish Agreement with Irish Prime Minister Garret FitzGerald which started the peace process between the Irish and British governments. Her rapid reaction to this tragedy and her willingness to move forward immediately is one of many reasons why she is nicknamed the “Iron Lady.” http://futurefemaleleader.com/margaret-thatcher-a-true-political-icon-for-women/ Edited October 13, 2016 by betsy Quote
BubberMiley Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) 16 minutes ago, betsy said: Thatcher is the real icon for women. Hillary is a blight to women. A blight? Why? Personally, I think Bill rode in Hillary's coattails. I think she's the real brains in the organization. Edited October 13, 2016 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Wilber Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 Indira Gandhi was Nehru's daughter. Elizabeth I was Henry VIII's daughter. Guess there is no merit there in your book. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
betsy Posted October 13, 2016 Author Report Posted October 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, Wilber said: Indira Gandhi was Nehru's daughter. Elizabeth I was Henry VIII's daughter. Guess there is no merit there in your book. Did I mention Indira Gandhi, or Elizabeth 1? Who did I talked about? MARGARET THATCHER! Quote
betsy Posted October 13, 2016 Author Report Posted October 13, 2016 10 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: A blight? Why? For starter.....because she enabled someone who committed atrocities to women? Quote
BubberMiley Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 1 minute ago, betsy said: Did I mention Indira Gandhi, or Elizabeth 1? I didn't think you bothered to read your quotations or sources. This is proof. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
betsy Posted October 13, 2016 Author Report Posted October 13, 2016 Just now, BubberMiley said: I didn't think you bothered to read your quotations or sources. This is proof. I don't think you bothered reading my post. This is proof. Quote
betsy Posted October 14, 2016 Author Report Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) Ms Campbell, another thing that went sailing over your coiffed head: JOURNALISM IS DEAD! All you've got to do is read, and watch news report! American journalism is collapsing before our eyes Donald Trump may or may not fix his campaign, and Hillary Clinton may or may not become the first female president. But something else happening before our eyes is almost as important: the complete collapse of American journalism as we know it. The frenzy to bury Trump is not limited to the Clinton campaign and the Obama White House. They are working hand in hand with what was considered the cream of the nation’s news organizations. The shameful display of naked partisanship by the elite media is unlike anything seen in modern America. http://nypost.com/2016/08/20/americans-are-about-to-get-the-first-landslide-president-we-dont-want/ By adding your voice to the dumb lynch mob who parrot what they read......you've unwittingly abetted and participated in the killing of democracy! You're an accomplice! This isn't all about Trump vs Hillary, you know! Your short-sightedness is amazing......that thankfully, you've lasted only a few months as PM! You're the one who committed a crime against democracy! Ms Campbell, if you're still wondering what the heck I'm on about......FYI, OBJECTIVE and UNBIASED journalism goes hand in hand with democracy! What does journalism mean for democracy: the role of objective reporting http://franklincenterhq.org/11444/journalism-objective-reporting/ *****(I do hope Kim Campbell reads this, and come on this board!) Edited October 14, 2016 by betsy Quote
The_Squid Posted October 14, 2016 Report Posted October 14, 2016 Repeating what Trump himself has said and done to show the character (or lack thereof) is what journalists are supposed to do. Kim Campbell - if you're reading this, ignore Betsy. Quote
betsy Posted October 14, 2016 Author Report Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The_Squid said: Kim Campbell - if you're reading this, ignore Betsy. ....good advice. Because you know with her position, she can't win! Repeating what Trump himself has said and done to show the character (or lack thereof) is what journalists are supposed to do. If she understands arguments she reads the way you do.......she's definitely toast! Edited October 14, 2016 by betsy Quote
BubberMiley Posted October 14, 2016 Report Posted October 14, 2016 5 hours ago, betsy said: Ms Campbell, if you're still wondering what the heck I'm on about......FYI, OBJECTIVE and UNBIASED journalism goes hand in hand with democracy! You're going to be surprised when you find out Kim Campbell was a Conservative prime minister and not a Liberal. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Wilber Posted October 14, 2016 Report Posted October 14, 2016 When Campbell was Justice Minister, she was responsible for major changes in sexual assault legislation, particularly the rights of victims. So yes, she is very qualified to speak on this subject and she knows very well what Trump is. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
betsy Posted October 14, 2016 Author Report Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, BubberMiley said: You're going to be surprised when you find out Kim Campbell was a Conservative prime minister and not a Liberal. I know she was a Conservative PM. What's that got to do with what you've quoted me????? Edited October 14, 2016 by betsy Quote
betsy Posted October 14, 2016 Author Report Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Wilber said: When Campbell was Justice Minister, she was responsible for major changes in sexual assault legislation, particularly the rights of victims. So yes, she is very qualified to speak on this subject and she knows very well what Trump is. She may be all that.....but with the OP article, she'd turned her position on sex assaults and victim's rights into a farce! All the more that she shouldn't be joining Hillary and the lynch mob in trivializing sex assault! Furthermore, she should've remained neutral - after all, the allegations against the Clintons are much worse! It's a husband and wife team that allegedly had women victimized by the serial sex assaulter.....and re-victimized by his enabler! Kim Campbell had shown she can be just like Hillary........hypocritical! Edited October 14, 2016 by betsy Quote
BubberMiley Posted October 14, 2016 Report Posted October 14, 2016 15 minutes ago, betsy said: All the more that she shouldn't be joining Hillary and the lynch mob in trivializing sex assault! Does lynch mob now just mean "a group of people who disagree with me?" I remember when you had to lynch someone to get that distinction. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
cybercoma Posted October 14, 2016 Report Posted October 14, 2016 10 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: Does lynch mob now just mean "a group of people who disagree with me?" I remember when you had to lynch someone to get that distinction. betsy shouldn't be trivializing racist murders. Quote
jbg Posted October 18, 2016 Report Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) On 10/12/2016 at 8:47 AM, betsy said: If Canadians, especially former Prime Ministers - even those that are short time failures - would criticize anyone, they ought to make sure they don't end up looking too foolish, and becoming an embarrassment. Trump is a self-celebrating 'sexual predator,' says Canada's 1st female PM Kim Campbell also says Trump's suggestion election is rigged is 'a crime against democracy' http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/kim-campbell-describes-trump-as-dangerous-for-democracy-1.3800280 First of all, Ms Campbell seemed to be unaware that the so-called, "self-celebrating sexual predator," was indulging in a private conversation with Billy Bush. Had that conversation remained private, it wouldn't have offended anyone. The only reason we know about that conversation, is due to the fact that someone had violated someone's privacy and we're nothing more than eavesdroppers. We are self-celebrating "eavesdroppers".....and so many of us had wilfully taken the locker room banter out of context, and had used it to smear these two men. It's like hearing something that's not meant to be heard, and spreading it! It's gossip! Billy Bush was suspended indefinitely from his job, thanks to the media that violated his privacy. If there's anything to criticize Trump and Bush for, it'll be for their carelessness around an open mic. Still, that doesn't give anyone the right to breach someone's privacy (hurting so many people in the process like Nancy O'Dell (and her family), and Arianne Zucker (and her family), Trump's and Bush's. So what is Kim Campbell actually saying.......there's no such thing as freedom of speech (even in private?) Well, if that's how Kim campbell thinks, we've been spared from who knows what other idiocy she would've been capable of doing as a sitting Prime Minister. Good thing she sat for only a few months! Too bad the headline pointed out she's Canada's First female PM. There goes the first female Prime Minister we're so proud of! What a shame. She just perpetuated the myth that women don't think! Kim Campbell's borrowed rhetorics (let's face it, it's not even original)....... .............is a crime against the Constitution! Kim Campbell may have been a long-term PM but she's right. The issue is far from only the 2005 videotape; it's the consistent continuation of the language and behavior. And no one is doubting Trump's right to speak. He's a very public figure by his own decision. Edited October 18, 2016 by jbg My statement wound up inside quote. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Moonlight Graham Posted October 18, 2016 Report Posted October 18, 2016 betsy, you're the best person on this forum at colourizing your topic. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
?Impact Posted October 18, 2016 Report Posted October 18, 2016 9 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: betsy, you're the best person on this forum at colourizing your topic. I don't mind the colours and big typeface and even capital letters, it is the pages and pages of quotes that get tedious. Quote
jbg Posted October 18, 2016 Report Posted October 18, 2016 9 hours ago, ?Impact said: 9 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: betsy, you're the best person on this forum at colourizing your topic. I don't mind the colours and big typeface and even capital letters, it is the pages and pages of quotes that get tedious. Spelling fail on "colour" according to my software. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
betsy Posted October 18, 2016 Author Report Posted October 18, 2016 10 hours ago, jbg said: Kim Campbell may have been a long-term PM but she's right. The issue is far from only the 2005 videotape; it's the consistent continuation of the language and behavior. And no one is doubting Trump's right to speak. He's a very public figure by his own decision. It may be offensive language, but it's not a crime against Democracy! Quote
betsy Posted October 18, 2016 Author Report Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: betsy, you're the best person on this forum at colourizing your topic. Do you know that someone commented about that in another forum? He'd said, "tosca1 is a brand! She's got her own style!" Edited October 18, 2016 by betsy Quote
Wilber Posted October 18, 2016 Report Posted October 18, 2016 1 hour ago, betsy said: It may be offensive language, but it's not a crime against Democracy! It's a crime against women. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
?Impact Posted October 18, 2016 Report Posted October 18, 2016 6 hours ago, jbg said: Spelling fail on "colour" according to my software. That's because you live in NYC, move up north and your software will get better. Quote
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