Rue Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 In an attempt to bait me on another thread in the Rest of the World section, Cybercoma attempted to suggest I believe Obama is an anti semite. I have as have others openly discussed Obama foreign policy as being anti Israeli. There are some who see varying degrees of anti semitic comment or content in Obama policies, i.e., http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2014/04/28/anti-semitism-obama-admin/ http://lidblog.com/the-obama-administrations-anti-semitism-is-showing-again/ http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/191196/obama-denying-israels-right-to-exist-as-a-jewish-homeland-is-anti-semitic http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/31/blue-state-blues-barack-obamas-antisemitic-rant-on-the-iran-deal/ https://unitedwithisrael.org/jewish-orgs-slam-obama-and-white-house-for-anti-semitism-over-iran-deal/ http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/08/13/israeli-professor-obamas-language-is-similar-to-protocols-of-the-elders-of-zion/ Obama appointed these individuals to his administration: Arif Alikhan Mohammed Eliblary Rashad Hussain Salam al-Marayati Imam Mohamed Magid Eboo Patel All of the above are in the Muslim Brotherhood and have do not believe a Jewish state of Israel should exist and have said so. George Soros is an open anti semite and financed both his campaigns and is one of his most trusted advisers in dealing with the Middle East. Zbigniew Brezinski was appointed his Middle East advisor and he is openly and blatantly anti semitic not just anti Israel. Obama's no.1 ally in the 8 years he has been in office is the rabid anti semite Erdogan of Turkey. He openly supported Morsi of Egypt an open anti semite and anti Christian. His half brother is an open anti semite who is the no.1 Muslim Brotherhood financier of Sudan. His Kenyan father was openly anti semitic as was his step father. His Minister Jeremy Wright is an out and out anti semite. Let's just say there is no shortage of anti semites near to Obama. I don't know if he hates Jews. I do think he has been influenced by people who hate Jews and/or very anti Zionist people. I do believe many anti Zionists believe their denial of Jews having the right to a Jewish state Is not anti semitic. I do believe Obama does not hate Jews as people. I do think he is anti Israel but will not call him a Jew hater. I've seen no words to indicate that. So Cyber's attempt to bait, pffft. http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Column-one-Barack-Obamas-anti-Semitism-test-404430 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 So being anti-Israel does not mean you are anti-Semitic? It's hard to nail down your angle with how you push back on others with the notion of anti-semitism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 I do believe Obama does not hate Jews as people.You've said that about me too but I'm pretty sure you were just baiting me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter F Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 All of the above are in the Muslim Brotherhood and have do not believe a Jewish state of Israel should exist and have said so. Is there some reference for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) There are some who see varying degrees of anti semitic comment or content in Obama policies, i.e., Yup. There's some people that see antisemitism literally every where they look. When they look at the night sky? antisemitism . When they gaze across the ocean at a sunset? antisemitism. In the heart of every child and on the face of every smiling baby... jew hater. Edited August 22, 2016 by dre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Obama is anti-illegal settlements and anti-bombing Iran. Sounds like he's anti-asshole rather than anti-Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted August 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) So being anti-Israel does not mean you are anti-Semitic? It's hard to nail down your angle with how you push back on others with the notion of anti-semitism. I have never once came on this board and stated simply being anti Israeli makes one anti semitic. You've made the accusation against me over 10 times in the past three threads and you have yet to back it up with any words from me to suggest your accusation that you repeat. You again will not discuss the thread and make false accusations. Knock yourself out. Edited August 25, 2016 by Rue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted August 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Obama is anti-illegal settlements and anti-bombing Iran. Sounds like he's anti-asshole rather than anti-Israel. I save the word asshole for Donald Trump at this point lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankyMcFarland Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted August 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 You've said that about me too but I'm pretty sure you were just baiting me. Provide the quote as to what you allege. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted August 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) No. Sorry Mr. McFarland I had no idea you were a Trump supporter. May I be clear in that I do not like Clinton or Trump equaly. further content deleted by Rue Edited August 30, 2016 by Rue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankyMcFarland Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Rue, I was simply responding to the question posed in the OP. I am not a Trump supporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted August 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Rue, I was simply responding to the question posed in the OP. I am not a Trump supporter. Thank you for clarification. I respect your answers this is why I responded. No prawb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankyMcFarland Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) On a personal basis, you can see the relationship with David Axelrod is still strong. Obama has been very lucky or shrewd or both in his choice of political allies. Edited August 31, 2016 by SpankyMcFarland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Provide the quote as to what you allege. I finally cracked under the pressure of being called an anti-Semite once and admitted that I hated Jews. You said you didn't believe it. You don't remember? It wasn't that long ago. I'm afraid you'll have to take my word for it. I've never been able to get results from the search function here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 If you don't fully follow the racist and colonialist policies of Israel, you are labeled an anti-semite. Not to say that Obama has not followed the typical one-sided U.S. policies towards Israel, but he has shown 'some' resistance. Bibi, the bully, backed by his thugs of billionaire election funders (like Sheldon Adelson and Haim Saban) and the prostitutes in Congress ended up campaigning against a sitting president during the U.S. elections. What utter disrespect for a president who has given Israel the most amount of (free) money in the history of U.S./Israel relationship. Bite that hand! Bibi, showed disrespect again by giving a speech to his minions in congress, trying to dismantle and destroy a deal that most agree is the best way to control Iran's potential ambition to become nuclear. Zionists have been bullying their agenda for far too long. Most Western politicians realize that their political careers could end if they object to the system that has been created. Those have taken any stance against the "Israel First" policies have been bombarded with attacks and in most cases, their political careers have ended. However, the world is waking up and this trend will surely end. This is thanks to the internet and the flow of information which is no longer as heavily controlled by the mainstream media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 I have never once came on this board and stated simply being anti Israeli makes one anti semitic. You've made the accusation against me over 10 times in the past three threads and you have yet to back it up with any words from me to suggest your accusation that you repeat. You again will not discuss the thread and make false accusations. Knock yourself out. Just looking for some clarification on your stance. And my question was essentially on topic with regard to the question of what is anti-semitism. You make the claim Obama is not a Jew hater. so I was thinking that people can be critical without being called an anti-semite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted August 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) Just looking for some clarification on your stance. And my question was essentially on topic with regard to the question of what is anti-semitism. You make the claim Obama is not a Jew hater. so I was thinking that people can be critical without being called an anti-semite. Right. You seek clarification for a position no one has ever raised let alone disputed. Edited August 31, 2016 by Rue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted August 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) If you don't fully follow the racist and colonialist policies of Israel, you are labeled an anti-semite. 1. Who is "you"? 2. Please provide proof of your allegations. 3. What do your comments have to do with the thread? Edited August 31, 2016 by Rue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Right. You seek clarification for a position no one has ever raised let alone disputed. I've raised the question, Dre has raised, it, Eyeball has raised it .. many have raised it ..many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 1. Who is "you"? Anyone who shows resistance or speaks out against the Zionist policies. 2. Please provide proof of your allegations. You. 3. What do your comments have to do with the thread? It's pretty clear. Thread topic: Was/is Obama's policies re. Israel anti semitic I said: If you don't fully follow the racist and colonialist policies of Israel, you are labeled an anti-semite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted September 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 I've raised the question, Dre has raised, it, Eyeball has raised it .. many have raised it ..many times. You seek clarification on a point no one has at any time ever stated on this thread and that is your false restatement that claims people on this board have stated criticism of Israel in itself is automatically anti semitic. You have made that accusation countless times as have others who are anti Israeli and not one of you has ever provided any words from me or anyone that stated that. Run along Ghost you defend all the attacks you want on Jews on this board and pretend there aren't any. Knock yourself out. As far as I am concerned your true colours show loud and clear. Red, black, and white. You need clarification on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted September 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Anyone who shows resistance or speaks out against the Zionist policies. You. It's pretty clear. Thread topic: Was/is Obama's policies re. Israel anti semitic I said: If you don't fully follow the racist and colonialist policies of Israel, you are labeled an anti-semite. Who is you? Who is being labelled an anti semite because they won't follow "racist" and "colonial" policies of Israel? Who is you? Do you know? How is that "you" you refer to Obama? You came on this board to engage in changing the topic which discusses Obama's foreign policy and switch it to an attempt to engage in the usual piss on Israel rhetoric. YOU engage in words like "you" but who is "you". Do you know? Sounds like "you" is a word you fabricated to mean someone other than you and no you and the you you refer to are not Obama though they may be you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 You seek clarification on a point no one has at any time ever stated on this thread and that is your false restatement that claims people on this board have stated criticism of Israel in itself is automatically anti semitic. You have made that accusation countless times as have others who are anti Israeli and not one of you has ever provided any words from me or anyone that stated that. Run along Ghost you defend all the attacks you want on Jews on this board and pretend there aren't any. Knock yourself out. As far as I am concerned your true colours show loud and clear. Red, black, and white. You need clarification on that? So are you calling me an anti-semite?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Above all else though I'm as anti-rueish as I suspect any reasonable Jew/Israeli would be as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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