Trump a rapist?

[taxme]

That is why I said people are left 'wondering what the truth is'. No one can know. But one or two incidents where he lost control (if the allegations had merit) are a lot different than the deliberate rape of a 13 year old. It is going to take a lot more than anonymous sources to establish that this accusation is credible.

Let's all see if Epstein goes to jail first or even Bill Clinton. If they don\t then the lame duck media should stop wasting their time and the peoples time on this, and their constant let's try to get Trump on something nonsense. Trump is too popular with the people to try to get anything going against him. He is now the teflon Donald. I say good on that. Let the elite sweat as they start to see their world fall apart. Aw gee, too bad, so sad.

[taxme]

So in your opinion Trump initiating sex with a 13 year old in the 90's is the same as a senior banging a 30 year old or Bill Clinton getting a hummer from a young adult? Sickening indeed.

Ya man, let's get that Trump on anything that we can come up with. Trump is a dangerous man for we the elite globalists and he just has to go or we may just lose it all.

[overthere]

All men are rapists.

[taxme]

What's sickening about it?

That he said, Epstein likes his women on the younger side? When you're that old, what is "younger?"

A 70-year old going out with a 30-year old can be said to like his women on the "younger" side. Would that be a crime?

Bill Clinton obviously liked his women on the younger side too - how old was Lewinski?

Which is worse? Being a friend of a sex offender......

.........or being married to one, and being an accomplice by doing all you can to help with the cover-up?

Now, the last one would be sickening.

You must be talking about that wonderful person called Hillary, eh? The elites darling. Yup, Bill says, cover up for me Hillary, and Bill says I will cover up for you. What a team of liars, eh? And to think that their are Americans out there that want her as President of the good old USA.. Shocking.

[taxme]

All men are rapists.

Oh, I didn't know that I was a rapist? But maybe you would like to explain that one to me? I await anxiously.

[TimG]

One thing to remember about old allegations: the latest research into memory has shown that memory is extremely pliable and it is quite common for people to construct "memories" of events that never happened based on suggestions that come from others. I have heard that the process of recalling a memory is like making a copy of a recording and each time you recall a memory it is possible to insert changes that are then stored as your "memory" of the event.

IOW, it is possible that these accusers could be making claims that they honestly believe to be true but, at the same time, the claims could be complete fiction.

Edited July 26, 2016 by TimG

[taxme]

One thing to remember about old allegations: the latest research into memory has shown that memory is extremely pliable and it is quite common for people to construct "memories" of events that never happened based on suggestions that come from others. I have heard that the process of recalling a memory is like making a copy of a recording and each time you recall a memory it is possible to insert changes that are then stored as your "memory" of the event.

IOW, it is possible that these accusers could be making claims that they honestly believe to be true but, at the same time, the claims could be complete fiction.

I agree. Under hypnosis a person can be made to believe whatever may be put in their head by the person doing the hypnotizing. The only way to get to know the real side of the story is for both parties to go before a judge. Then the truth should come out. Well, it is suppose to turn out that way.

[overthere]

Oh, I didn't know that I was a rapist? But maybe you would like to explain that one to me? I await anxiously.

How could you not know that? Obviously you are not familiar with modern feminism. Quelle surprise.

[TimG]

Then the truth should come out.

The truth will only come out if there is independent evidence. If the judge only has he-said-she then we can never know - especially since both the accused and the accuser may be honestly reporting false memories of the event.

[betsy]

So in your opinion Trump initiating sex with a 13 year old in the 90's is the same as a senior banging a 30 year old or Bill Clinton getting a hummer from a young adult? Sickening indeed.

It's an accusation. We don't know if that is indeed true.

[taxme]

How could you not know that? Obviously you are not familiar with modern feminism. Quelle surprise.

XXX.

The truth will only come out if there is independent evidence. If the judge only has he-said-she then we can never know - especially since both the accused and the accuser may be honestly reporting false memories of the event.

Well then the media should just butt out of what this woman is saying and let the two parties and the judge settle it all out in court. These kinds of incidents go on every day, so why doesn't the media just go crazy and report all of them? Why this one with Trump? I am sure that I know why?

Because it involves Trump and nothing more. It all has to do with the mentality of the media and their constant fixation of showing us all their hatred and intolerance for someone they don't like. Say it as it is and tell the truth and you are then a goner. The main scream media can never be trusted.

Edited July 26, 2016 by taxme

[taxme]

How could you not know that? Obviously you are not familiar with modern feminism. Quelle surprise.

No, I don't know because I am not a feminist. And so what or why does "modern feminism" of today think that all men are rapists? Surprise me with a good answer?

[Moonlight Graham]

Well, I and many others look forward to the outcome. We do know though, that a President can get head from an intern in the Oval Office and still be allowed to hold office.

Clinton never got in any legal trouble for that, it was the lying under oath about it.

Anyways, interesting allegation. Guess we have to wait to see what happens in court. With all this dirt happening now I can't wait to see the October surprises!

[jacee]

Are you talking about his ex-wife? Feminists seem to think that we should believe all women who allege sexual assault, except when they recant said allegations. You cant have this both ways.

Payoffs/'settlements' have that effect as they are always accompanied by gag orders.

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[jacee]

Clinton never got in any legal trouble for that, it was the lying under oath about it.

I still chuckle about that.?

http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1859513_1859526_1859515,00.html

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

With those words, President Clinton didn't just dig himself a hole, he stole a backhoe, dug a really deep hole, drove the backhoe into the hole, wired the backhoe with explosives and blew it up.

...

Clinton was later impeached by the House of Representatives for lying about the matter under oath.

Anyways, interesting allegation. Guess we have to wait to see what happens in court. With all this dirt happening now I can't wait to see the October surprises!

I can't wait to hear Trump's disclaimers: More 'Unfortunate Political One-Liners'

Hey Trump supporters!?

What if the Donald is just a.really.bad.man?!

But he'll still have the support of

rapists and pedophiles.

That'll be interesting. ?

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Edited July 27, 2016 by jacee

[jacee]

The truth will only come out if there is independent evidence. If the judge only has he-said-she then we can never know - especially since both the accused and the accuser may be honestly reporting false memories of the event.

Ah. You didn't read the article.

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Edited July 27, 2016 by jacee

[overthere]

No, I don't know because I am not a feminist. And so what or why does "modern feminism" of today think that all men are rapists? Surprise me with a good answer?

google it. The truth will set you free.

[taxme]

google it. The truth will set you free.

I already know the truth. Feminism is anti-male period. It is full of lesbians and liberal women who hate males. Google that.

[overthere]

Many men are feminists. Google that too.

[BC_chick]

I already know the truth. Feminism is anti-male period. It is full of lesbians and liberal women who hate males. Google that.

You can accept women as equal and believe in holding them to a same standard as men without hating men. I know, I know, that's a real far out concept, but yeah, it happens if your mind isn't completely one-dimensional.

[TimG]

Ah. You didn't read the article.

I read the article and the fact that another 'witness' claims to corroborate the claims means nothing if the witness and the alleged victim have been in communication since one of the best ways to create false memories it to talk to other witnesses because false memories from one person get implanted in the other and become shared 'true' memories.

[jacee]

I read the article and the fact that another 'witness' claims to corroborate the claims means nothing if the witness and the alleged victim have been in communication since one of the best ways to create false memories it to talk to other witnesses because false memories from one person get implanted in the other and become shared 'true' memories.

Kinda tinfoil hat stuff, TimG.

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[TimG]

Kinda tinfoil hat stuff, TimG.

Nope. I am simply stating the latest scientific research into memory:

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/11/how-many-of-your-memories-are-fake/281558/

Loftus has found that memories can be planted in someone’s mind if they are exposed to misinformation after an event, or if they are asked suggestive questions about the past. One famous case was that of Gary Ramona, who sued his daughter’s therapist for allegedly planting false memories in her mind that Gary had raped her.

Loftus’s research has already rattled our justice system, which relies so heavily on eyewitness testimonies. Now, the findings showing that even seemingly impeccable memories are also susceptible to manipulation could have “important implications in the legal and clinical psychology fields where contamination of memory has had particularly important consequences,” the PNAS study authors wrote.

Edited July 30, 2016 by TimG