taxme Posted July 26, 2016 Report Posted July 26, 2016 Another example , if any more were needed, of why BC doesn't want Northern Gateway. Accidents happen. Live with it. It's not like it happens every day. With what I am getting from all of the anti-oil sands, anti-Northern Gateway environmentalist crowd is that they want us all to go back into the stone age. Well for myself, I would rather have a few oil spills rather than having to go back to the old days, and having to end up living in a cave. Too much hard work involved. Electricity has spoiled me now, and I do like driving around in my vehicle. It beats walking and driving any where far. Works for me. Quote
taxme Posted July 26, 2016 Report Posted July 26, 2016 Do something about these first then we'll talk about oil. That will be even more impossible without a mean to monitor the monitors. Tell you what, you get the NEB to prove its better at protecting fish habitat by getting them to do something about the sewage and farm waste. Don't forget mining waste, logging and urban development. Lord knows we've tried to get Ottawa to do its job better maybe Alberta can do better The government is good at doing nothing. They screw things up more than they do anything right. The government is the problem, not the solution. Quote
taxme Posted July 26, 2016 Report Posted July 26, 2016 Who speaks for the fish plus everyone/thing who depend on them for their livelihood Tim? What do you figure we should tell them? Oh yes, the fish and the frogs? The fish and the frogs that can stop big huge projects that create jobs because the environmental people don't want those fish to have to take another route or river around. That sounds so funny to me when I hear people say "who speaks for the fish"? The fish will survive just like every other animal and human on earth have too when a natural earthly disaster hits them. With the environmental crowd, the death of a fish or frog is the end of the world to them. Crazy. Quote
Smallc Posted July 27, 2016 Report Posted July 27, 2016 1. The election is already decided once the polls enter Manitoba so it hardly matters what BC or Alberta really want Without BC and Manitoba, the Liberals would have a minority. Quote
The_Squid Posted July 27, 2016 Author Report Posted July 27, 2016 Oily birds.... http://thestarphoenix.com/news/local-news/three-oiled-birds-pulled-from-pipeline-spill-site 2 days worth of clean water for the city... Then who knows.... Officials have no idea how much oil couldn't be cleaned up... Husky can't explain why the response took so long. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/husky-shuts-pipeline-indefinitely-after-saskatchewan-oil-spill/article31114030/ And this is a tiny spill.... But don't worry.... pipelines are safe. 1 Quote
msj Posted July 27, 2016 Report Posted July 27, 2016 And this is a tiny spill.... But don't worry.... pipelines are safe. Let's hope all of the costs will be paid by Husky for all of this. I'm not holding my breath though. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
eyeball Posted July 27, 2016 Report Posted July 27, 2016 Oh yes, the fish and the frogs? The fish and the frogs that can stop big huge projects that create jobs because the environmental people don't want those fish to have to take another route or river around. That sounds so funny to me when I hear people say "who speaks for the fish"? The fish will survive just like every other animal and human on earth have too when a natural earthly disaster hits them. With the environmental crowd, the death of a fish or frog is the end of the world to them. Crazy. What really sounds funny is listening to people like you pipe up for fish on behalf of oil companies. I'm a fisherman so trust me the death of a fish is really not the end of the world for me. Putting the NEB in charge of the 1000 fish bearing watersheds between Alberta and it's saltwater port on the other hand is. Now go get lost. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Smoke Posted July 27, 2016 Report Posted July 27, 2016 Oily birds.... http://thestarphoenix.com/news/local-news/three-oiled-birds-pulled-from-pipeline-spill-site 2 days worth of clean water for the city... Then who knows.... Officials have no idea how much oil couldn't be cleaned up... Husky can't explain why the response took so long. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/husky-shuts-pipeline-indefinitely-after-saskatchewan-oil-spill/article31114030/ And this is a tiny spill.... But don't worry.... pipelines are safe. Ahhhh, the environmentalists have rescued 4 birds and a frog from the devastation. They will care for the oil-soaked birds and frog and nurse them back to health. What a show of humanity. I wonder if they also show up to save a bird when it's hit by a turbine blade? I haven't read anything about that yet. Quote
Argus Posted July 27, 2016 Report Posted July 27, 2016 Ahhhh, the environmentalists have rescued 4 birds and a frog from the devastation. They will care for the oil-soaked birds and frog and nurse them back to health. What a show of humanity. I wonder if they also show up to save a bird when it's hit by a turbine blade? I haven't read anything about that yet. Hard to get there fast in their horse and buggies, because of course, environmentalists don't use oil or gas. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
taxme Posted July 27, 2016 Report Posted July 27, 2016 What really sounds funny is listening to people like you pipe up for fish on behalf of oil companies. I'm a fisherman so trust me the death of a fish is really not the end of the world for me. Putting the NEB in charge of the 1000 fish bearing watersheds between Alberta and it's saltwater port on the other hand is. Now go get lost. Without oil today where would we be? Oil runs the world or has this not occoured to you? Jobs come first, not fish. Oil companies are just as concerned about oil spills as the rest of us are. Oil spills cost lots of money to clean up. So what is the NEB doing that upsets you so much? And no, I won't go away. I like it here. Quote
taxme Posted July 27, 2016 Report Posted July 27, 2016 Hard to get there fast in their horse and buggies, because of course, environmentalists don't use oil or gas. Good one. The environmentalists are the first ones to use oil and gas. They appear to never like to practice what they preach. They are a joke, and they would never walk to wherever they need to go. Especially if their destination was a thousand miles away. They will say, ok, let's take the car. Quote
taxme Posted July 27, 2016 Report Posted July 27, 2016 Ahhhh, the environmentalists have rescued 4 birds and a frog from the devastation. They will care for the oil-soaked birds and frog and nurse them back to health. What a show of humanity. I wonder if they also show up to save a bird when it's hit by a turbine blade? I haven't read anything about that yet. I wonder why the word mental is found in the word environmentalist. Just curious. Quote
taxme Posted July 27, 2016 Report Posted July 27, 2016 Oily birds.... http://thestarphoenix.com/news/local-news/three-oiled-birds-pulled-from-pipeline-spill-site 2 days worth of clean water for the city... Then who knows.... Officials have no idea how much oil couldn't be cleaned up... Husky can't explain why the response took so long. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/husky-shuts-pipeline-indefinitely-after-saskatchewan-oil-spill/article31114030/ And this is a tiny spill.... But don't worry.... pipelines are safe. Pipelines have been around for decades. So, a couple of pipelines develop a leak or two. No big deal, it gets cleaned up. Gee, I wonder how the environmentalists felt when Mount St. Helen's volcano blew her top? The devastation from that explosion alone should have wiped out humanity, but of course we all know that didn't happen. Millions of trees and animals perished and yet we are all still here. Mother nature cleaned the mess up, and everything is just about back to normal. So, a pipeline leak or spill will not result in the world coming to an end. I just don't get it as to why all people get all upset over an oil spill? I will take an oil spill anytime to not having a car to get around in. Works for me. Quote
overthere Posted July 27, 2016 Report Posted July 27, 2016 This was a massive spill: the equivalent of two rail cars. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Accountability Now Posted July 27, 2016 Report Posted July 27, 2016 Without BC and Manitoba, the Liberals would have a minority. The point is that you could take every Liberal seat in BC, Alberta, Sask, Manitoba, NWT, Yukon and Nunavet and then give those seats to the Liberals and Justin Trudeau would have still been PM. Sure, any PM wants a majority but their first mandate is to get the job. So if BC is going to vote one way based on an issue and the rest of Canada, especially Ontario is going to vote the other way....which way due you think they go with it? The reality again is that in this particular case the NGP itself does not appear to be the issue but rather Harper. Quote
jacee Posted July 27, 2016 Report Posted July 27, 2016 (edited) Pipelines have been around for decades. So, a couple of pipelines develop a leak or two. No big deal, it gets cleaned up. Gee, I wonder how the environmentalists felt when Mount St. Helen's volcano blew her top? The devastation from that explosion alone should have wiped out humanity, but of course we all know that didn't happen. Millions of trees and animals perished and yet we are all still here. Mother nature cleaned the mess up, and everything is just about back to normal. So, a pipeline leak or spill will not result in the world coming to an end. I just don't get it as to why all people get all upset over an oil spill? I will take an oil spill anytime to not having a car to get around in. Works for me. Even if the next one's in your backyard?I appreciate that you pride you self on just being an agitator. But having water is important too. http://www.financialpost.com/m/wp/news/energy/blog.html?b=business.financialpost.com/news/energy/saskatchewan-drinking-water-measures-could-be-in-place-for-months-due-to-husky-oil-spill-official Ferris estimates the water supplies of close to 70,000 people have been affected so far and that the slick has travelled about 370 kilometres. Edited July 27, 2016 by jacee Quote
Accountability Now Posted July 27, 2016 Report Posted July 27, 2016 But don't worry.... pipelines are safe. So what is your preferred method? Train? Or just no oil at all? Quote
Bryan Posted July 28, 2016 Report Posted July 28, 2016 This was a massive spill: the equivalent of two rail cars. Also the equivalent of less than one second of the river's daily average discharge. Pretty small in context. Quote
jacee Posted July 28, 2016 Report Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) Also the equivalent of less than one second of the river's daily average discharge. Pretty small in context.Water is necessary.It's not small to the 70,000 people (so far) whose water supply is destroyed. But thanks for those words from the oil lobby. You make them look pretty disgusting. Doing my work for me! . Edited July 28, 2016 by jacee Quote
Bryan Posted July 28, 2016 Report Posted July 28, 2016 Water is necessary. It's not small to the 70,000 people (so far) whose water supply is destroyed. But thanks for those words from the oil lobby. You make them look pretty disgusting. Doing my work for me! . Let me know when you want to have a rational discussion. Your hyperbole and personal attacks are ridiculous. Quote
jacee Posted July 28, 2016 Report Posted July 28, 2016 Let me know when you want to have a rational discussion.Sure ... Quote
poochy Posted July 28, 2016 Report Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) Even if the next one's in your backyard? Irrelevant. The hallmark of the fringe left is hypocrisy, so I can only assume you, like most who share your broken beliefs, are a massive hypocrite, it's a requirement of the ideology, it's impossible to function logically within that broken framework. In fact, you are to blame, in part, for every oil spill, and you're ok with that as long as it happens in someone else's backyard, if not, prove to us that you no longer use or need oil and therefore your hands are clean. I suspect you like your oil, you, just like all of the other lefty hypocrites here want someone else to bear all of the burdens associated with producing and transporting it. I live very near what might someday be the energy east pipeline, our water supply is very close to it, but should i fight against it while I fill my tank at the Shell down the street? No, because that gas came from somewhere and if wherever that is can accept the risks so can we. Edited July 28, 2016 by poochy Quote
eyeball Posted July 28, 2016 Report Posted July 28, 2016 Also the equivalent of less than one second of the river's daily average discharge. Pretty small in context. Its also a slick that is approximately 500,000 acres in area that will take months and maybe years to disperse. Pretty massive in context. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
taxme Posted July 28, 2016 Report Posted July 28, 2016 Even if the next one's in your backyard? I appreciate that you pride you self on just being an agitator. But having water is important too. http://www.financialpost.com/m/wp/news/energy/blog.html?b=business.financialpost.com/news/energy/saskatchewan-drinking-water-measures-could-be-in-place-for-months-due-to-husky-oil-spill-official Ferris estimates the water supplies of close to 70,000 people have been affected so far and that the slick has travelled about 370 kilometres. Yup, no problem in my back yard if I had one. I am not an agitator I am just a politically incorrect realist. Accidents will happen, why does that bother you? Tens of thousands of people every year are injured or killed by someone driving or from getting hit be a vehicle. So, we should get rid of vehicles because of it? Accidents happen. I am pretty sure that oil companies don't cause oil spills just for fun. Best you just live with it. I do. No problem. I know that water is important but the world doesn't rely on just one well. Quote
taxme Posted July 28, 2016 Report Posted July 28, 2016 Its also a slick that is approximately 500,000 acres in area that will take months and maybe years to disperse. Pretty massive in context. Chill out. The clean up will get done, and the world will continue on. Quote
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