bush_cheney2004 Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Boges said: Kay. Trump is not your friend.... ...no tears for Oshawa ! Bye-bye ! Ontario spent billions, but still....bye-bye ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Boges said: Dude must be sweating the Tax Return decision. Roberts may vote against him just for spite. Win some...lose some. Supreme Court just gave Trump a 7-2 victory for the expedited removal of illegals. ...bye-bye ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Win some...lose some. Supreme Court just gave Trump a 7-2 victory for the expedited removal of illegals. ...bye-bye ! Except for DACA recipients. Edited June 29, 2020 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Boges said: Except for DACA recipients. DACA illegals can be deported too under certain conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: DACA illegals can be deported too under certain conditions. What are those? Breaking to rules of DACA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Boges said: What are those? Breaking to rules of DACA? More like breaking state and federal laws. So called Dreamers were even deported by Obama under DACA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: More like breaking state and federal laws. So called Dreamers were even deported by Obama under DACA. OK, but now they can stay. SCOTUS says so. You've failed to cite what instance would be cause for deportation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Boges said: OK, but now they can stay. SCOTUS says so. You've failed to cite what instance would be cause for deportation. No they can't....conviction for a felony or multiple misdemeanors leads to deportation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: No they can't....conviction for a felony or multiple misdemeanors leads to deportation. That would be breaking the rules of DACA. As mentioned earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 Just now, Boges said: That would be breaking the rules of DACA. As mentioned earlier. DACA is not federal law and Trump can still challenge it in court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: DACA is not federal law and Trump can still challenge it in court. He can. It won't be heard again before the election though. Another broken promise from Trump. Couldn't even get abortion repealed with a stacked court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Boges said: He can. It won't be heard again before the election though. Another broken promise from Trump. Couldn't even get abortion repealed with a stacked court. That's OK....COVID has stopped Canadians from crossing the border for easier access to abortions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: That's OK....COVID has stopped Canadians from crossing the border for easier access to abortions. If that non-sequitur lets you feel like you've gotten the last word, I'll give it to you. Edited June 29, 2020 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlonB Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 Trump is the best thing to happen to america is years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, MarlonB said: Trump is the best thing to happen to america is years. Meh, some rando... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlonB Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 Just now, bcsapper said: Meh, some rando... Yup, with an opinion. Sorry I don't spend most of my days on an online forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 Just now, MarlonB said: Yup, with an opinion. Sorry I don't spend most of my days on an online forum. Perhaps you can defend your position a tad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, bcsapper said: Meh, some rando... No....the point is a very good one. Those who abhor Trump and his policies are unwittingly calling for the return of previous American domestic and foreign policies. Joe Biden represents over 40 years of that legacy, including the Iraq War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, MarlonB said: Yup, with an opinion. Sorry I don't spend most of my days on an online forum. Yes, sorry about that. With your name being MarlonB, I couldn't resist the pun. I did explain that to both you and BC, but old Quick Draw McGraw has had too much coffee this morning. Edit> Charles, could you give it a minute or two before deleting it so MarlonB knows I'm not just an argumentative SOB? Edited June 29, 2020 by bcsapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 The source if Fox News. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/trump-2020-us-election-drop-out-fox-news-republican-a9592036.html Quote Donald Trump may drop out of the 2020 presidential race if he believes he has no chance of winning, a Republican Party operative reportedly told Fox News. The claim comes in a report in the president’s favourite news outlet that cites a number of GOP insiders who are concerned about Mr Trump’s re-election prospects amid abysmal polling numbers. Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee, currently holds an average lead of nine points over the incumbent, according to a tracker of 2020 polls by RealClearPolitics. The polling is damning and Trump's only move is flaming culture wars. He's talking more about Statues than Covid-19. I don't know how that type of messaging expands the base. It's not even helping with the economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Boges said: The polling is damning and Trump's only move is flaming culture wars. He's talking more about Statues than Covid-19. I don't know how that type of messaging expands the base. It's not even helping with the economy. The U.S. economy is improving, but not at a fast enough "V shaped" recovery for Trump's political needs. Democrat LBJ declined his party's nomination in 1968 and did not run for another term, so it is not without precedent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: The U.S. economy is improving, but not at a fast enough "V shaped" recovery for Trump's political needs. Democrat LBJ declined his party's nomination in 1968 and did not run for another term, so it is not without precedent. The problem with this whole COVID re-opening at no cost doctrine is that it ends up slowing down the recovery. You get 30,000 young people sick every day, that does a lot to damage to worker pool. And these false starts on the economy put the states behind other economies that took a more measured approach. He's been pretty silent on all this lately. I think he's been told to STFU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Boges said: The problem with this whole COVID re-opening at no cost doctrine is that it ends up slowing down the recovery. You get 30,000 young people sick every day, that does a lot to damage to worker pool. The worker pool is being damaged far more by the shutdown. Trump's success and only chance always depended on the economy, so he is not going to just roll over on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: The worker pool is being damaged far more by the shutdown. Trump's success and only chance always depended on the economy, so he is not going to just roll over on it. Well opening up, Covid-19 be damned, has not worked. Beaches will be closed on the Fourth of July weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, Boges said: Well opening up, Covid-19 be damned, has not worked. Beaches will be closed on the Fourth of July weekend. It's a mixed bag...not all states are having new spikes after re-opening. Still waiting for deaths to spike, an important metric. Staying locked down through the election was never going to happen, regardless of Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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