America under President Trump

[Yzermandius19]

4 minutes ago, Boges said:

LOL at having to cancel a plan to. . . 

Invite the Taliban to Camp David 3 days before 9/11 to discuss peace because of a terrorist attack. 

Hey people are laughing at me because I can't admit I made a mistake warning people in Alabama about a Hurricane, I know let's distract them by inviting the people who harboured Al Qaeda to the US a few days before 911. 

This guy is such a moron. 

Yeah, cause it's better for to keep fighting a pointless war.

Your TDS is showing, you are so triggered you'd rather see America keep fighting wars to prevent Trump from getting credit for ending them. Sad.

Edited September 9, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Boges]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Yeah, cause it's better for to keep fighting a pointless war. Your TDS is showing.

Well then why did he cancel? 

Perhaps because the optics is horrible. https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/08/politics/michael-waltz-taliban-9-11-pompeo-cnntv/index.html

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"As we head into the anniversary of 9/11, I do not ever want to see these terrorists step foot on United States soil. Period," Waltz, a member of the House Armed Services Committee, told CNN's Fredricka Whitfield on "Newsroom" Sunday afternoon.

Waltz said Sunday that among his top concerns over Trump's invitation was the Taliban "declaring this a victory."

"The Taliban have shown zero desire for peace. There's no ceasefire that they've agreed to. In fact, they've ramped up their attacks. We talked about the American soldier that just came home this morning in a coffin," he said.

 

Trump has played this game with North Korea with negligible if non existent results. 

Edited September 9, 2019 by Boges

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

Well then why did he cancel? 

Perhaps because the optics is horrible. https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/08/politics/michael-waltz-taliban-9-11-pompeo-cnntv/index.html

Perhaps because it's negotiation tactic. But of course, you always assume the worst about Trump, even when does something good, like trying to put an end to the war in Afghanistan.

Edited September 9, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Boges]

Also in another case of "If Obama did it.." 

Trump is found to have tweeted a classified image just to troll Iran. 

https://www.wired.com/story/trump-tweeted-a-sensitive-photo-internet-sleuths-decoded-it/

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Within hours of Trump’s tweet, a handful of amateur satellite trackers had not only determined that the photo was taken by a spy satellite, they had figured out which satellite had taken the photo. The culprit was USA 224, a classified National Reconnaissance Office satellite launched in 2011.

USA 224 is believed to be a member of the “KH-11” family of electro-optical surveillance satellites, which began to replace film-based surveillance satellites in the 1970s. Almost everything about the KH-11 satellite program is classified, but there are some clues about the design of the satellites. For example, in 2011 NRO donated to NASA two space telescopes that were originally intended for reconnaissance and believed to be part of the KH-11 program. Each of the telescopes had a 2.4-meter (7.9-foot) mirror, which is the same size used in the Hubble space telescope. But unlike Hubble, these telescopes were meant to be pointed at the Earth, not away from it.

 

 

[Boges]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Perhaps because it's negotiation tactic. But of course, you always assume the worst about Trump, even when does something good, like trying to put an end to the war in Afghanistan.

Then why'd he cancel? 

Edited September 9, 2019 by Boges

[Yzermandius19]

Just now, Boges said:

Also in another case of "If Obama did it.." 

Trump is found to have tweeted a classified image just to troll Iran. 

https://www.wired.com/story/trump-tweeted-a-sensitive-photo-internet-sleuths-decoded-it/

 

The President can declassify anything he wants. Moving the goalposts because your first attack was so transparently stupid.

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

Then why'd he cancel? 

Negotiation tactic, your reading comprehension is next level bad. You honestly think that if your imagination is so terrible as to not think of another reason that Trump did something other than Trump is bad, then your idiotic conclusions have to be right.

Edited September 9, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Boges]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

The President can declassify anything he wants. Moving the goalposts because your first attack was so transparently stupid.

Nope, both things are so stupid.

Trump is an impulsive moron. When was the last time a sitting president was primary'd by 3 people? 

[Boges]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

Negotiation tactic, your reading comprehension is next level bad. You honestly think that if your imagination is so terrible as to not think of another reason, your idiotic conclusions have to be right.

First it's not my conclusion. It was the conclusion of the Vice President and many other Republicans. So your defensive rhetoric is telling. 

[Yzermandius19]

Just now, Boges said:

Nope, both things are so stupid.

Trump is an impulsive moron. When was the last time a sitting president was primary'd by 3 people? 

Both things are not stupid. You will literally look at any news story and try to make it a negative about Trump.

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

First it's not my conclusion. It was the conclusion of the Vice President and many other Republicans. So your defensive rhetoric is telling. 

Other Republicans saying so does not make it correct. Since when do quote Pence as an authority about anything? You only believe him when he tells you something you want to hear about Trump, every other time, you dismiss everything he says out of hand. Make up your mind cherry picker.

Edited September 9, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Boges]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

Both things are not stupid. You will literally look at any news story and try to make it a negative about Trump.

Yes I will look at news stories that show 45 is stupid and think he's stupid. 

Wanna defend Sharpie-Gate while you're at it? 

[Boges]

2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Other Republicans saying so does not make it correct. Since when do quote Pence as an authority about anything? You only believe him when he tells you something you want to hear about Trump, every other time, you dismiss everything he says out of hand. Make up your mind cherry picker.

I'm sure you'd jump on stories of Liberals turning their back on JT. For example, i'm sure you're sympathetic with the positions of JWR and Jane Philpot. 

I'm just pointing out, that this is not just a TDS attack. People within the government also concede these things were stupid. 

Again I'd eagerly awaiting your vigorous defence of Sharpie-Gate. 

Edited September 9, 2019 by Boges

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

Yes I will look at news stories that show 45 is stupid and think he's stupid.

And you look at no news stories that tell the other side of the argument, you live a Trump Hater bubble, and think everything he does is bad, because biased media tells you he is.

[Yzermandius19]

4 minutes ago, Boges said:

I'm sure you'd jump on stories of Liberals turning their back on JT. For example, i'm sure you're sympathetic with the positions of JWR and Jane Philpot. 

I'm just pointing out, that this is not just a TDS attack. People within the government also concede these things were stupid. 

Again I'd eagerly awaiting your vigorous defence of Sharpie-Gate. 

No I wouldn't. Just because some Liberals turn their back on JT doesn't make it his fault, it depends why they did it. I don't just latch on to anyone who says something negative about JT and act like they are telling the truth, like you do about Trump. I don't have Trudeau Derangement Syndrome, but you do have Trump Derangement Syndrome. Just because some idiots do the same to Trudeau that you are doing to Trump doesn't mean it's a good idea to prop up a politician you hate by grasping at straws to attack them.

Edited September 9, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Boges]

3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

And you look at no news stories that tell the other side of the argument, you live a Trump Hater bubble, and think everything he does is bad, because biased media tells you he is.

The irony of you using the bubble argument is wildly hilarious. 

Again, wanna cite a recent sitting President that face primary opposition from 3 people?

I see from your silence that, even you, will concede that Sharpie-Gate was an example of Trump's stupidity. 

Edited September 9, 2019 by Boges

[Yzermandius19]

4 minutes ago, Boges said:

The irony of you using the bubble argument is wildly hilarious. 

Again, wanna cite a recent sitting President that face primary opposition from 3 people?

Trump has more Republican support than any President in recent history, the presence of extremely feeble primary opposition makes no difference whatsover.

The media is biased and likes to pretend the Republicans are divided even when they aren't. And you fall for it, because it makes Trump look bad, when he has less opposition than most Presidents do within their own party, because you are a dolt who believe anything about Trump as long as it paints him in a negative light.

Edited September 9, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Boges]

3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Trump has more Republican support than any President in recent history, the presence of extremely feeble primary opposition makes no difference whatsover.

The media is biased and likes to pretend the Republican is divided even when it isn't. And you fall for it, because it makes Trump look bad, when he has less opposition than most Presidents do within their own party, because you are a dolt who believe anything about Trump as long as it paints him in a negative light.

That's because he's caused traditional Republicans to leave the party. 

Because he's no conservative and he's no libertarian. 

Edited September 9, 2019 by Boges

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, Boges said:

That's because he's caused traditional Republicans to leave the party. 

Because he's no conservative and he's no libertarian. 

The Democrats are way more divided than Trump, but all you hear about is Republican division stories, because you live in a media bubble that hates Republicans and Trump especially. Traditional Republicans support him, a few of them leaving is irrelevant, you are pointing to an extreme fringe minority as if that is representative of how Republicans feel about Trump, because the media tricked you into believing the Anti-Trumpers are more prevalent than they really are.

Most Republican presidents faced stiffer inner party opposition than Trump, you just want to believe the opposite because it makes Trump look bad. When you have over 90% Republican support, the party is firmly behind you, the Never Trump opposition being a big thing is total fake news.

Edited September 9, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Boges]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

The Democrats are way more divided than Trump, but all you hear about is Republican division stories, because you live in a media bubble that hates Republicans and Trump especially. Traditional Republicans support him, a few of them leaving is irrelevant.

Well for those that stayed, they're giant hypocrites. 

Obama raises the debt. TEA PARTY!!!!!

Trump does it ten-fold. DEAR LEADER!!!!

I accept your admission that Sharpie-Gate is evidence that Trump is stupid. 

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

Well for those that stayed, they're giant hypocrites.

Most of them stayed, the vast majority in fact. Just because CNN lets some of the few anti-Trump Republicans that exist on to their shows to rail against him doesn't mean he has low support with Republicans. He has over 90% Republican support, because he's triggered the Dems into being even crazier than you think he is, and Republicans are recoiling in disgust.

Edited September 9, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Boges]

7 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Most of them stayed, the vast majority in fact. Just because CNN lets some of the few anti-Trump Republicans that exist on to their shows to rail against him doesn't mean he has low support with Republicans. He has over 90% Republican support, because he's triggered the Dems into being even crazier than you think he is, and Republicans are recoiling in disgust.

Because many left. Note the 3 primary opponents. 

Oh and more Fake News. 

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/431868-polls-show-trumps-approval-softening-among-gop-independents

Edited September 9, 2019 by Boges

[Yzermandius19]

7 minutes ago, Boges said:

Because many left. Note the 3 primary opponents. 

Many didn't leave, more didn't leave than those who left. There are more people who have left the Democrats than have left the Republicans. You want to believe that Trump appeals only to his base, which you think is smaller than the Republican base before Trump, and he wins no swing voters, but that is simply false on all counts.

Trump literally won in 2016, because he stole former Obama voters in key swing states. Reagan Democrats in the Rust Belt FTW.

Those are the facts, you simply wish to believe that he is less popular than he actually is.

Edited September 9, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Boges]

6 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Trump literally won in 2016, because he stole former Obama voters in key swing states. Reagan Democrats in the Rust Belt FTW.

Those are the facts, you simply wish to believe that he is less popular than he actually is.

Those are the facts. The Dems took those voters for granted, that probably won't happen again. 

And going into a recession; after a tax cut mostly for the rich; and trade tariffs that are actually hurting people in the heartland I suspect those voters wont be as sympathetic to Trump's message. 

[Yzermandius19]

5 minutes ago, Boges said:

Those are the facts. The Dems took those voters for granted, that probably won't happen again. 

They are taking those voters for granted as we speak, it is happening again, you just wish it wouldn't. Socialism doesn't play in the Rust Belt, and neither does Identity Politics, nor does Gun Grabbing or Free Speech Hating. The Democrats are basically doing everything they can to alienate the Rust Belt, wake up dude.

Last time Democrats had twice as much to spend than the Trump Campaign and still lost, this time Trump is going to have more money than them, that doesn't bode well for the Democrats. He is going to be able to spend a lot more in the Rust Belt than he was last time around, and they will have less to spend.

You are tunnel visioning on your perception of Trump's weakness, while ignoring the weaknesses of his opposition, which is leading you to faulty analysis.

Edited September 9, 2019 by Yzermandius19