Omni Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Just another mess that President Trump has to clean up. Therein lies the problem Left to his own devices I'm sure he'll only worsen the mess. I'm glad to hear he has formally requested a meeting with the UN. That tells me that the grownups in DC are guiding him. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Omni said: Therein lies the problem Left to his own devices I'm sure he'll only worsen the mess. I'm glad to hear he has formally requested a meeting with the UN. That tells me that the grownups in DC are guiding him. Trump had nothing to do with creating the NK mess....Obama and Trudeau just kicked the can down the road. The grown ups in Ottawa are irrelevant in this matter. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump had nothing to do with creating the NK mess. No one said he created it, it's how he might deal with it that could be scary. I'm sure there are some smart high ranking military people who will keep him in check. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Omni said: No one said he created it, it's how he might deal with it that could be scary. I'm sure there are some smart high ranking military people who will keep him in check. It is a lot harder than those sitting on their asses in Ottawa, hoping that the real leaders of the world can figure things out. Always gonna be scary if all you can do is depend on what the Americans and other nations do. I guess it's more important (and much cheaper) to remain a NATO deadbeat and give millions to Omar Khadr instead. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: It is a lot harder than those sitting on their asses in Ottawa, hoping that the real leaders of the world can figure things out. Always gonna be scary if all you can do is depend on what the Americans and other nations do. I guess it's more important (and much cheaper) to remain a NATO deadbeat and give millions to Omar Khadr instead. Ha ha. I've heard people conflate issues before but I think you just set a record. Trump can't seem to figure out how to keep his tweets straight. Luckily those real leaders you speak of are a little more coherent. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Omni said: Ha ha. I've heard people conflate issues before but I think you just set a record. Trump can't seem to figure out how to keep his tweets straight. Luckily those real leaders you speak of are a little more coherent. Tweets or no tweets, it is obvious that your PM and government are impotent in the matter. Your expressed concerns are an admission of dependence on U.S. policies, even as you hold the U.S. in contempt. So typical from some north of the border. Edited July 5, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Your expressed concerns are an admission of dependence on U.S. policies, even as you hold the U.S. in contempt. No admission of contempt or dependence. I just think we could be looking at some serious business here and most people whatever side of the border, don't have much faith in Trump. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Omni said: No admission of contempt or dependence. I just think we could be looking at some serious business here and most people whatever side of the border, don't have much faith in Trump. "We"....don't make me laugh. Any faith in Trump is more significant than no faith in Trudeau and his government. Looking is all that Canada has done on the North Korea "file" to date. Trudeau does that well...looking is free. Edited July 5, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Any faith in Trump is more significant than no faith in Trudeau and his government. In your narrow minded view. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, Omni said: In your narrow minded view. In the world's view as well. Trudeau/Canada talk a lot of crap about "peacekeeping" and "honest broker", but hasn't done squat about the DPRK. Your own posts put more import on what the Americans would/should do compared to impotent Canada. Save the usual Canadian BS for the UN General Assembly with the rest of the peanut gallery. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: In the world's view as well. So you imagine yourself speaking for the world now do you? Sorry pal. My posts point out how Trump is making himself a laughing stock, which is fine, as long the issues he faces aren't too serious. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, Omni said: So you imagine yourself speaking for the world now do you? Sorry pal. My posts point out how Trump is making himself a laughing stock, which is fine, as long the issues he faces aren't too serious. The only laughing stock here is you concern about Trump and his government all while worrying about DPRK nukes. WHAT-IS-YOUR-DEAR-LEADER-AND-GOVERNMENT-GOING-TO-DO-ABOUT-IT ? Canada will soon be in range too...so just depend on the Americans, as usual ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: WHAT-IS-YOUR-DEAR-LEADER-AND-GOVERNMENT-GOING-TO-DO-ABOUT-IT ? WE'LL SEE. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, Omni said: WE'LL SEE. Translation....NOTHING. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Translation....NOTHING. Kind of like your dear leader up to now, other than to suggest possibly inviting FAT KIM to the WH for dinner. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Omni said: Kind of like your dear leader up to now, other than to suggest possibly inviting FAT KIM to the WH for dinner. Wrong....President Trump has a carrier task group offshore, has forward deployed more air power to Japan and South Korea, and has based missile defense batteries in South Korea....the same technology that do nothing Canada refused to cooperate on (BMD). Trudeau and do nothing Ottawa better not come back now whining to be part of BMD after Kim makes them wet their pants. Canada's underfunded, broke-dick navy can't even deploy to the region for a lack of supply ships. Edited July 5, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: .President Trump has a carrier task group offshore, has forward deployed more air power to Japan and South Korea, and has based missile defense batteries in South Korea....the same technology that do nothing Canada refused to cooperate on And has he figured what direction they are going yet? https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-04-18/us-fleet-trump-supposedly-sent-north-korea-spent-days-sailing-wrong-direction Atta boy Donny. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, Omni said: And has he figured what direction they are going yet? At least he has fleets (that's plural) to give direction to, unlike your broke-dick navy and air farce. That's what happens to defense spending deadbeats like Canada...they end up worrying about what other nations will do because they can only afford to pay off convicted illegal combatants (war criminals) like Omar Khadr...much cheaper ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 I hope President Trump is briefed on Canada's rejection of missile defense, only for Trudeau to begin whining now about the DPRK threat. http://globalnews.ca/news/3368227/north-korea-missiles-trudeau-canada-bmd/ No missile defense for Canada....maybe Obama will save you from Hawaii. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: At least he has fleets (that's plural) to give direction to Except he seems to have a problem with direction. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, Omni said: Except he seems to have a problem with direction. The directions are well defined in ops orders and deployment schedules. They even have resources and directions to tow your old broken down ships back to CFB Esquimalt. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: The directions are well defined in ops orders and deployment schedules. They even have resources and directions to tow your old broken down ships back to CFB Esquimalt. So Trump was not quite aware of what those ops orders were. Like I say, the grownups will hopefully keep a proper track. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, Omni said: So Trump was not quite aware of what those ops orders were. Like I say, the grownups will hopefully keep a proper track. Why would he be ? He is President of the United States, not SecDef, or SevNav, or CNO, or COMPACFLT, or..... The CINCs work for Trump, and have real ships that float and go around the world all the time without being towed back to port by Canada. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Why would he be ? He is President of the United States, not SecDef, or SevNav, or CNO, or COMPACFLT, or..... The CINCs work for Trump, and have real ships that float and go around the world all the time without being towed back to port by Canada. And there's a big difference between north, and south. Unfortunately "somebody" seemed to screw that up. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Omni said: And there's a big difference between north, and south. Unfortunately "somebody" seemed to screw that up. So Trump is supposed to know where every ship in the U.S. Navy is currently positioned ? It's far easier for Trudeau to know where Canadian ships are, as there are so few of them, and even fewer can deploy. Either way...you have no choice but to sit back and watch what the Americans do...just like always. Eat some more popcorn while Trump and the D.C. grown ups deal with it. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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