Trudeau upsets his media party?

[PIK]

Trudeau is up north at a isolated reserve and the CBC and such show up and the RCMP tell them they are not allowed , only vice Canada is allowed to speak to his highness. That will not sit well.

[overthere]

Complete control of the media, and the message.

Wasn't there another PM who was harshly criticized for that, now what was his name?

[Big Guy]

I should not be surprised that blind partisan political spin is repeated on this (my guy is better than your guy) board. When you post things without verifying the accuracy of the story you certainly undermine the credibility of the poster.

I saw the OP and was interested in the story. Since there was no reference for the statement, I Googled the story and found the real explanation of what went on. Thank you for wasting my time. Next time I shall check the author of the OP before investigating a story.

[nerve]

It is likely that Trudeau is exclusively working with VICE to create a segment on the conditions of northern reserves, I am guessing. For whatever reason I am guessing that the PM doesn't have time right now for discussing the same talking points with other news stories as the documentary format of vice would water down the VICE report.

Now the PM should be able to decide when and on what subjects they speak about.

Media access does no denote constant media access or media access while other activities are being undertaken.

You know the PM should be able to designate when they want to hold press conferences.

The real issue is that media is not being allowed on reserve if they are being denied access to the reserve itself, that decision would be made by the reserve itself to allow access or not.

Access to the PM is another matter.

There isn't enough info to go on, as to why what occurred is occurring.

The style of interview would be changed and that is not the standard format of vice.

In my opinion if time was available for a media scrum that should be scheduled if there arn't more pressing matters, however it seems clear the intent is to assist the VICE documentary on northern reserves to gain political capital by providing a look into the reserve life as well as the PMs position in a clear controlled statement put out by VICE on the issue. This seems to be more about Trudeau's international image, PR etc.. than about the news itself.

Yeah I think that the PM shouldn't be obligated to give press interviews whenever the press shows up but rather that the PM should make information release available. I don't think it would be fair to say there is a shortage of press conferencing going on. I think that there is a markedly different access level between Harper and Trudeau and Trudeau has been very giving to the press. In this case he has put his media time in with VICE for their documentary. I am guessing once that there will be another press conference again at some point.

Perhaps the news crews can interivew people on reserve instead to see what is going on in their lives, what their needs are, instead of asking the same questions to the PM.

More info here

http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/how-vice-brought-canadas-pm-to-a-remote-indigenous-community/

Clearly as McLeans explains this was not an interview the PM was taking part in a documentary.

In the words of McLeans

"Earlier this year, VICE Canada approached the office of Canada’s prime minister with an ambitious proposal. Last fall, we produced a documentary series on remote Indigenous communities, and we planned to go back. Only this time, we intended to do something different. We wanted to bring Prime Minister Justin Trudeau with us."

McLean's goes on to explain:

"Those are the challenges that VICE wants to show the prime minister. His office agreed and we chose a date. "

It seems fairly clear that the nature of this time with the media was that he would be involved with producing a documentary and that his reason for being there was in concert with those activities. Much like with his 60 minutes interview, you don't expect CNN to show up and be given access while he is preparing for the 60 minutes activities as they are more involved than a regular news story interview or press conference that would be open to members of the press. The fact is if there was a news story on reserve it should have been the first nations members not the PM that was the focus of that story.

He was a guest of VICE.

The interesting side story to this is

https://news.vice.com/article/a-detrimental-chilling-effect-vice-files-appeal-in-fight-with-canadian-police

Edited April 29, 2016 by nerve

[Big Guy]

Who is allowed on the site is up to the Chief. I wonder if it is possible that the Chief of the reserve made a deal ($) with VICE for exclusivity of the event? And maybe the PMO thought that the Chief should have the last word on who goes on to his reserve?

Why would any politician miss the opportunity for International coverage of an event that is very positive and great advertising for this PMO?

There is always room for partisan opinions but sometimes it gets just too silly to digest!

[PIK]

We all knew what harper was like and his feelings towards the press. But this is trudeau and it is 2016. Remember more open and transparent, more lies.

[Smallc]

We all knew what harper was like and his feelings towards the press. But this is trudeau and it is 2016. Remember more open and transparent, more lies.

The only lies were those of omission in the opening.

[?Impact]

CBC updated their article, including the following:

The visit was deemed a private one, closed to all media outlets except Vice Canada, which is shooting a documentary on the tour. Two TV crews got onto the reserve, but were ordered out by Treaty 3 police, which serves First Nations communities across much of northwestern Ontario.

The community, not the Prime Minister's Office, made the decision to restrict media access, said Cuyler Cotton, the band's media relations officer. The aim was to have Trudeau speak privately with many residents and not have a "media circus,"

[overthere]

The aim was to have Trudeau speak privately with many residents and not have a "media circus,"

Really, the hilarity never stops. if he wanted privacy, why would there be any media there?

Edited April 29, 2016 by overthere

[waldo]

Really, the hilarity never stops. if he wanted privacy, why would there be any media there?

read it again... it wasn't the PMO that wanted restricted media access - "The community, not the Prime Minister's Office, made the decision to restrict media access, said Cuyler Cotton, the band's media relations officer."

try again; try harder!

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[PIK]

He is the PM of Canada and he is still in Canada no matter what people think. I just wonder how much of this will be about him. And one more pt when harper travelled up north he took 10 RCMP, trudeau took 80, It was reported some natives were a little pissed that trudeau thinks he needs that much security. This guy love having a lot of people around him., at our expense. Trudeau could have easily said no and had a small group brought in. The press have shown they can when told not to make a circus out of it ,like they do for ramp ceremonies in Trenton.

[waldo]

He is the PM of Canada and he is still in Canada no matter what people think. I just wonder how much of this will be about him. And one more pt when harper travelled up north he took 10 RCMP, trudeau took 80, It was reported some natives were a little pissed that trudeau thinks he needs that much security. This guy love having a lot of people around him., at our expense. Trudeau could have easily said no and had a small group brought in. The press have shown they can when told not to make a circus out of it ,like they do for ramp ceremonies in Trenton.

interesting you never source/cite your little anecdotes - go figure!

Annual cost for Harper’s RCMP security detail has doubled to $19.6 million since he became PM in 2006

The cost of Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s RCMP personal security team has more than doubled since he took office, according to records obtained by the Ottawa Citizen.

RCMP numbers, obtained by the Citizen under access to information legislation, show the annual operating budget of the Prime Minister Protection Detail (PMPD) has increased 122% between 2006 and 2014 — to almost $20 million annually.

The PMPD is responsible for the security of the prime minister and his family in Canada and abroad, and protecting official residences, including 24 Sussex Drive. Armed RCMP officers, usually wearing suits and dark sunglasses, travel with the prime minister wherever he goes, including on foreign trips.

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[PIK]

I can just imagine the threats he received form the people of the left. So you better times that by 8 for trudeau, since he took 80 and I want to see how much the family bill will ,be compared to harper. Since the trudeaus will not be eating pot roast.

Edited May 2, 2016 by PIK

[Smallc]

I can just imagine the threats he received form the people of the left. So you better times that by 8 for trudeau, since he took 80 and I want to see how much the family bill will ,be compared to harper. Since the trudeaus will not be eating pot roast.

The RCMP, and not the Prime Minister, make security decisions.

[cybercoma]

PIK, when people brought up Harper's security, which I've never complained about, weren't you one of the ones who said the RCMP makes these decisions? This isn't a political football. The PM needs security and it should be up to the experts what kind of security he needs, not up to partisans who would be giddy if he took a bullet.

Edited May 2, 2016 by cybercoma

[BubberMiley]

I can just imagine the threats he received form the people of the left. So you better times that by 8 for trudeau, since he took 80 and I want to see how much the family bill will ,be compared to harper.

You should make a blog and put your fake information in there so that at least it will look like you have a citation.