Hal 9000 Posted February 3, 2016 Report Posted February 3, 2016 Could she have got the test privately? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
WestCoastRunner Posted February 3, 2016 Author Report Posted February 3, 2016 Could she have got the test privately?So what? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Hal 9000 Posted February 3, 2016 Report Posted February 3, 2016 So what? I didn't make a comment, I asked a question. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Shady Posted February 3, 2016 Report Posted February 3, 2016 Would you want your girlfriend or wife to carry forward with this. I wouldn't kill my potential son or daughter if it could be treated. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted February 3, 2016 Report Posted February 3, 2016 Why is it necessary to abort because of the virus? Maybe you haven't heard of microcephaly. Quote
waldo Posted February 3, 2016 Report Posted February 3, 2016 I can't post the link. Sorry. It's in the national post. update: Ontario government intervenes for pregnant woman denied Zika test after Brazil trip After being connected with Hoskins’ office Tuesday, the woman said she and her husband “are overjoyed. “We just want this relief. That was the most important thing — to have answers and information to help make the most responsible decisions,” she said. . Quote
overthere Posted February 3, 2016 Report Posted February 3, 2016 and it has been confirmed that the virus can be sexually transmitted. This is very worrisome to me. Just a few days ago, Canada was supposedly relatively safe because the mosquito that carries the virus is not viable in Canada. That all changes with this news. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
WestCoastRunner Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Posted February 4, 2016 update: Ontario government intervenes for pregnant woman denied Zika test after Brazil trip . Thanks Waldo. That's great news for Canadians. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Shady Posted February 4, 2016 Report Posted February 4, 2016 Obviously you haven't researched this. No I haven't. What's the reason? From what I've heard, it's rare to be hospitalized from it, and the symptoms are similar to the flu. So what's the big deal? Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Posted February 4, 2016 The Catholic Church is silent on the Zika virus. Meanwhile, Latin America is predominantly Catholic forbidding abortion in all cases and frown upon birth control in many villages. Shame on them. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Shady Posted February 4, 2016 Report Posted February 4, 2016 The Catholic Church is silent on the Zika virus. Meanwhile, Latin America is predominantly Catholic forbidding abortion in all cases and frown upon birth control in many villages. Shame on them. What does the Catholic Church say about the flu? Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Posted February 4, 2016 What does the Catholic Church say about the flu? This is a shame that you are comparing the flu to this virus. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Shady Posted February 4, 2016 Report Posted February 4, 2016 This is a shame that you are comparing the flu to this virus. Symptoms are similar. So what's the big deal exactly? Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Posted February 4, 2016 Symptoms are similar. So what's the big deal exactly? Have you checked out the traits of a baby born while the mother has the virus? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
BubberMiley Posted February 4, 2016 Report Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) Symptoms are similar. So what's the big deal exactly? If mothers get it, the fetus can develop microcephaly. This syndrome disturbed me greatly when I saw the 1932 movie Freaks. Edited February 4, 2016 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted February 4, 2016 Report Posted February 4, 2016 So even though your unborn son or daughter could be born perfectly healthy, you'd rather kill it then take a chance? Wow. I never knew that our disposable society had decayed that far. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Posted February 4, 2016 So even though your unborn son or daughter could be born perfectly healthy, you'd rather kill it then take a chance? Wow. I never knew that our disposable society had decayed that far. Wow! You seem to have missed the point there is a test to determine if the fetus is infected. If it's positive the mother should have the right to an abortion, however the Catholic Church has been silent on this issue. What are your thoughts if it's confirmed the fetus has the virus. Do you think the mother should be able to abort? I would like your opinion because you are so quick to attack a woman's right to abortion. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Shady Posted February 4, 2016 Report Posted February 4, 2016 Wow! You seem to have missed the point there is a test to determine if the fetus is infected. If it's positive the mother should have the right to an abortion, however the Catholic Church has been silent on this issue. What are your thoughts if it's confirmed the fetus has the virus. Do you think the mother should be able to abort? I would like your opinion because you are so quick to attack a woman's right to abortion. First, there's no such right to a medical procedure done by somebody else and paid for by other people. People need to start to understand what real rights entail. Regardless, my opinions on abortion have nothing to do with any religion or church. My views are based on science. I don't have a problem with abortion before a certain point in development. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Posted February 4, 2016 First, there's no such right to a medical procedure done by somebody else and paid for by other people. People need to start to understand what real rights entail. Regardless, my opinions on abortion have nothing to do with any religion or church. My views are based on science. I don't have a problem with abortion before a certain point in development. Well I'm glad to hear that on your last point except you didn't say what that certain point was. As far as your first point, could you expand on that please. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
BubberMiley Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 I don't have a problem with abortion before a certain point in development. Science will tell you the lifeform begins its development at conception. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 Science will tell you the lifeform begins its development at conception. I agree that it begins its development. But stage of development is more important in my opinion. Quote
BubberMiley Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Lifeforms develop on a continuous basis. Stages are just arbitrary human creations outlining certain goalposts that are meant to help us keep track of its progress. The human brain starts developing at conception and continues to develop for years afterward. The ever-so-important "stage" you speak of is, scientifically, nothing at all. But, bringing this back on topic, I saw a microcephilic person in an Olive Garden once. I was, I suppose, visibly delighted because I hadn't seen one before. She noticed my interest and came and sat beside me and wanted to hug me, but her caregiver pulled her away. Edited February 5, 2016 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Guest Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 The Catholic Church is silent on the Zika virus. Meanwhile, Latin America is predominantly Catholic forbidding abortion in all cases and frown upon birth control in many villages. Shame on them. Why am I not surprised? The new Pope makes some of the right noises, but he's a tosser like all the rest. Quote
Guest Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 So even though your unborn son or daughter could be born perfectly healthy, you'd rather kill it then take a chance? Wow. I never knew that our disposable society had decayed that far. I would. You really didn't know that about our society? Quote
BubberMiley Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 People with microcephaly need a constant caregiver that they become very, very attached to and have a very hard time being away from them. If someone isn't sure they want to take the responsibility for such a situation and devote the rest of their waking life to that person, they should probably consider not taking the risk. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
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