Hal 9000 Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Could she have got the test privately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted February 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Could she have got the test privately?So what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 So what? I didn't make a comment, I asked a question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Would you want your girlfriend or wife to carry forward with this. I wouldn't kill my potential son or daughter if it could be treated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Why is it necessary to abort because of the virus? Maybe you haven't heard of microcephaly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I can't post the link. Sorry. It's in the national post. update: Ontario government intervenes for pregnant woman denied Zika test after Brazil trip After being connected with Hoskins’ office Tuesday, the woman said she and her husband “are overjoyed. “We just want this relief. That was the most important thing — to have answers and information to help make the most responsible decisions,” she said. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthere Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 and it has been confirmed that the virus can be sexually transmitted. This is very worrisome to me. Just a few days ago, Canada was supposedly relatively safe because the mosquito that carries the virus is not viable in Canada. That all changes with this news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 update: Ontario government intervenes for pregnant woman denied Zika test after Brazil trip . Thanks Waldo. That's great news for Canadians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Obviously you haven't researched this. No I haven't. What's the reason? From what I've heard, it's rare to be hospitalized from it, and the symptoms are similar to the flu. So what's the big deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 The Catholic Church is silent on the Zika virus. Meanwhile, Latin America is predominantly Catholic forbidding abortion in all cases and frown upon birth control in many villages. Shame on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 The Catholic Church is silent on the Zika virus. Meanwhile, Latin America is predominantly Catholic forbidding abortion in all cases and frown upon birth control in many villages. Shame on them. What does the Catholic Church say about the flu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 What does the Catholic Church say about the flu? This is a shame that you are comparing the flu to this virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 This is a shame that you are comparing the flu to this virus. Symptoms are similar. So what's the big deal exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Symptoms are similar. So what's the big deal exactly? Have you checked out the traits of a baby born while the mother has the virus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) Symptoms are similar. So what's the big deal exactly? If mothers get it, the fetus can develop microcephaly. This syndrome disturbed me greatly when I saw the 1932 movie Freaks. Edited February 4, 2016 by BubberMiley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 So even though your unborn son or daughter could be born perfectly healthy, you'd rather kill it then take a chance? Wow. I never knew that our disposable society had decayed that far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 So even though your unborn son or daughter could be born perfectly healthy, you'd rather kill it then take a chance? Wow. I never knew that our disposable society had decayed that far. Wow! You seem to have missed the point there is a test to determine if the fetus is infected. If it's positive the mother should have the right to an abortion, however the Catholic Church has been silent on this issue. What are your thoughts if it's confirmed the fetus has the virus. Do you think the mother should be able to abort? I would like your opinion because you are so quick to attack a woman's right to abortion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Wow! You seem to have missed the point there is a test to determine if the fetus is infected. If it's positive the mother should have the right to an abortion, however the Catholic Church has been silent on this issue. What are your thoughts if it's confirmed the fetus has the virus. Do you think the mother should be able to abort? I would like your opinion because you are so quick to attack a woman's right to abortion. First, there's no such right to a medical procedure done by somebody else and paid for by other people. People need to start to understand what real rights entail. Regardless, my opinions on abortion have nothing to do with any religion or church. My views are based on science. I don't have a problem with abortion before a certain point in development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 First, there's no such right to a medical procedure done by somebody else and paid for by other people. People need to start to understand what real rights entail. Regardless, my opinions on abortion have nothing to do with any religion or church. My views are based on science. I don't have a problem with abortion before a certain point in development. Well I'm glad to hear that on your last point except you didn't say what that certain point was. As far as your first point, could you expand on that please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I don't have a problem with abortion before a certain point in development. Science will tell you the lifeform begins its development at conception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Science will tell you the lifeform begins its development at conception. I agree that it begins its development. But stage of development is more important in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Lifeforms develop on a continuous basis. Stages are just arbitrary human creations outlining certain goalposts that are meant to help us keep track of its progress. The human brain starts developing at conception and continues to develop for years afterward. The ever-so-important "stage" you speak of is, scientifically, nothing at all. But, bringing this back on topic, I saw a microcephilic person in an Olive Garden once. I was, I suppose, visibly delighted because I hadn't seen one before. She noticed my interest and came and sat beside me and wanted to hug me, but her caregiver pulled her away. Edited February 5, 2016 by BubberMiley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 The Catholic Church is silent on the Zika virus. Meanwhile, Latin America is predominantly Catholic forbidding abortion in all cases and frown upon birth control in many villages. Shame on them. Why am I not surprised? The new Pope makes some of the right noises, but he's a tosser like all the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 So even though your unborn son or daughter could be born perfectly healthy, you'd rather kill it then take a chance? Wow. I never knew that our disposable society had decayed that far. I would. You really didn't know that about our society? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 People with microcephaly need a constant caregiver that they become very, very attached to and have a very hard time being away from them. If someone isn't sure they want to take the responsibility for such a situation and devote the rest of their waking life to that person, they should probably consider not taking the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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