WestCoastRunner Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 They still have them, but they don't have to use them. American voters will vote for the candidate(s) of their choice....even "young women". Ok? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Ok? Yes...it is OK. Women voted for Bill Clinton even after he sexually assaulted state employees and had an affair with a "young woman" intern. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Yes...it is OK. Women voted for Bill Clinton even after he sexually assaulted state employees and had an affair with a "young woman" intern. Bill isn't running. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Bill isn't running. Bill is always running....this time with Hillary. Maybe Monica will campaign for them...in a blue dress. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Bill is always running....this time with Hillary. Maybe Monica will campaign for them...in a blue dress. Hillary is running for the POTUS. Give her the respectability she deserves. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Hillary is running for the POTUS. Give her the respectability she deserves. Lots of people are running for POTUS...so what ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Lots of people are running for POTUS...so what ? So why bring her husband into her capabilities? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 So why bring her husband into her capabilities? Because she did. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Because she did.What a s..t answer. Is that all you got. Edited February 8, 2016 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 What a s..t answer Don't blame me...blame her and her campaign manager. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Don't blame me...blame her and her campaign manager. Bill is doing great. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
cybercoma Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Gloria Steinem made a comment that young women have not yet come against gender bias in the workforce which partially explains their support of sanders. If they had any inkling of what's to come, they may quickly change their support to Hillary. I tend to agree.Or young women realize that Hillary is nothing more than a wolf in sheep's clothing. Quote
sharkman Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Young Dems are turning to Sanders because Obama turned out to be a dud to them, and even they can see that Hilary would just be more of the same. Plus she lied about Benghazi and her emails, and is raking in millions from big business, also an unsavoury thing among the idealistic young Dems. Quote
kimmy Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Gloria Steinem made a comment that young women have not yet come against gender bias in the workforce which partially explains their support of sanders. If they had any inkling of what's to come, they may quickly change their support to Hillary. I tend to agree. I find the comments from Steinem and Albright really offensive and patronizing. Both amount to saying that women should vote for Hillary because she's a woman and ignore any other issue. Steinem went one farther by actually insulting the young women she wants to win over: Ms. Steinem ... took the sentiment a step further on Friday in an interview with the talk show host Bill Maher. Explaining that women tend to become more active in politics as they become older, she suggested that younger women were backing Mr. Sanders just so they could meet young men. “When you’re young, you’re thinking: ‘Where are the boys? The boys are with Bernie,’ ” Ms. Steinem said. Realizing that this was potentially offensive, Mr. Maher recoiled. “Oh. Now if I said that, ‘They’re for Bernie because that’s where the boys are,’ you’d swat me.” Maher is right: a male commentator who suggested that young women were making their choice based on where they could meet boys would be lambasted. Steinem has since apologized, claiming it was misinterpreted... “In a case of talk-show Interruptus, I misspoke on the Bill Maher show recently, and apologize for what’s been misinterpreted as implying young women aren’t serious in their politics,” she said in a post on Facebook. “Whether they gravitate to Bernie or Hillary, young women are activist and feminist in greater numbers than ever before.” ...but there's no room for misinterpretation in what she said. She said what she said, it's not ambiguous. She regrets saying it, but it wasn't "misinterpreted." Trying to play the gender card to win back young women to Clinton's side is sad. It's basically an admission that they haven't got anything of substance to offer young women. I think that for women of a certain age, the idea of a female President is basically the Holy Grail. It would prove that their generation's struggle has been won. For younger women, the question isn't about whether a woman who is already near the top of the ladder can make it one step farther up the ladder. It's about whether they'll be able to go to college or whether there'll be jobs when they graduate or whether they'll be able to afford things that Steinem's generation have been able to take for granted. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
WestCoastRunner Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 Or young women realize that Hillary is nothing more than a wolf in sheep's clothing. That could apply to all the candidates. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) Trying to play the gender card to win back young women to Clinton's side is sad. It's basically an admission that they haven't got anything of substance to offer young women. -k If I were an American I would trust Clinton more than Sanders to fight for and retain women's rights. Especially because she is a woman. Edited February 9, 2016 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
cybercoma Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 That could apply to all the candidates.You think Sandwrs is just blowing smoke up people's backsides? You don't think he's sincere when he tells people he's a socialist? Because I sure as hell don't think someone who gets fat pay checks from banks is actually going to be as tough on banks as Clinton says she is. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 You think Sandwrs is just blowing smoke up people's backsides? You don't think he's sincere when he tells people he's a socialist? Because I sure as hell don't think someone who gets fat pay checks from banks is actually going to be as tough on banks as Clinton says she is. Sanders like all the others will pander to lobby groups. He's no different. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Argus Posted February 10, 2016 Report Posted February 10, 2016 Sanders like all the others will pander to lobby groups. He's no different. I disagree. He's a true believer. The problem is he'd never get elected outside New England, which would leave, potentially, Donald Trump as president. Oh, plus, his ideas are kind of loony, unrealistic, and he'd never be able to get congress to pass the necessary laws. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
WestCoastRunner Posted February 10, 2016 Report Posted February 10, 2016 I disagree. He's a true believer. The problem is he'd never get elected outside New England, which would leave, potentially, Donald Trump as president. Oh, plus, his ideas are kind of loony, unrealistic, and he'd never be able to get congress to pass the necessary laws. Even if he were to become president do you really think he would be able to withstand the lobby groups. This is a major pipe dream. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Argus Posted February 10, 2016 Report Posted February 10, 2016 Even if he were to become president do you really think he would be able to withstand the lobby groups. This is a major pipe dream. There have always been lobby groups. Not everything they want is wrong and the good thing is they often oppose what other lobbyists want, and vice versa. He seems like a righteous guy. I just think some of his ideas are dumb and unrealistic, like nationalizing industries and giving everyone free college tuition. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
WestCoastRunner Posted February 10, 2016 Report Posted February 10, 2016 There have always been lobby groups. Not everything they want is wrong and the good thing is they often oppose what other lobbyists want, and vice versa. He seems like a righteous guy. I just think some of his ideas are dumb and unrealistic, like nationalizing industries and giving everyone free college tuition. He seems so unpresidential that I wouldn't trust him (as an American of course) to uphold and gain women's rights. He comes across as a grandfather to my grandkids. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
cybercoma Posted February 10, 2016 Report Posted February 10, 2016 If I were an American I would trust Clinton more than Sanders to fight for and retain women's rights. Especially because she is a woman."I'm a woman and I will vote for,th best feminist for president: Sanders" http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/09/i-am-a-woman-voting-for-best-feminist-bernie-sanders-president-hillary-clinton Quote
kimmy Posted February 10, 2016 Report Posted February 10, 2016 If I were an American I would trust Clinton more than Sanders to fight for and retain women's rights. Especially because she is a woman. Is there any reason not related to her being a woman that you think she has better policies for women? He seems so unpresidential that I wouldn't trust him (as an American of course) to uphold and gain women's rights. He comes across as a grandfather to my grandkids. Sanders has a long track record of supporting women. I can't imagine why anything would change. It's not like he'd rip off a mask and reveal himself to be Billy Graham. In his own words: I do understand there is a desire on the part of many women, perfectly understandable, to see a woman being elected president. And we all want to see that. We want to see women hold more political offices. But I also would hope that, in these enormously difficult times, where it is absolutely imperative that we stand up to the billionaire class, bring our people together, to fight for a progressive agenda, that all people—women—look at that candidate who has the record to do that. In terms of women’s rights, you’re looking at somebody who, to the best of my knowledge, has a 100 percent pro-choice voting record. You’re looking at somebody who’s made a cornerstone, a key part of my campaign, the need for at least three months of family and medical leave; somebody who is fighting to raise the minimum wage over a two year period to $15 an hour, which will benefit everybody, but women actually more than men; somebody who regards it as enormously important that we fight for pay equity for women; somebody who believes that our child care system is a disaster today and that we need to have the best childcare/pre-K system in the world, making it universal and affordable. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/09/24/hey-bernie-sanders-are-you-a-feminist/ -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
cybercoma Posted February 10, 2016 Report Posted February 10, 2016 It's pretty clear to anyone who looks at their records that Bernie Sanders is the better candidate on women's issues. It's patently absurd that Steinam and Albright support Clinton. I mean, I get Albright, since she's part of th establishment, but I guess Steinam has sold out now too. Quote
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