Parrish: Should She Join NDP?

[maplesyrup]

Martin ‘weak’, MP Parrish charges

Liberal MP Derek Lee says he wants Parrish removed from Caucus.

Parrish actually represents a lot of Canadians whose point of view is being squelshed within our current Martin Liberal minority government.

Do you think Parrish and the NDP are a good match as it is obvious she, nor her point of view, is wanted amongst the US sycophant Martin Liberals?

[Cartman]

At this point, I am starting to wonder if she is the only politician doing anything.

[maplesyrup]

Actually if you had watched Question Period today you would have seen NDP leader Jack Layton very effectively pummeling PM Martin over missle defence.

Layton is really starting to shine now that he is in the House of Commons, but of course our anti-social democratic media squeches him any chance they get.

Parrish & the NDP might be a good mix.

[kimmy]

At this point, I am starting to wonder if she is the only politician doing anything.

What exactly is it she's doing?

Is democracy in Canada in such a sad state that Canadians now believe that getting your name in the paper a lot is equivalent to action?

She's certainly accomplished at finding microphones to yap into, but I'm not sure what exactly this accomplishes.

She appears to be steering her political career in the direction of David Kilgour, an honourable man who will never get anywhere in Ottawa because he either doesn't understand the rules or won't play the game.

While Martin has such a precarious position in parliament, he might have little choice but to put up with Parrish. But if he enters another election as Liberal leader, I would suspect that he will not allow any Liberal riding association in the country to run Parrish as a candidate. She can go NDP or go Indie, and probably continue to win seats in parliament, but honestly, where's the future in that? NDPers and independents will never go very far in Canada's political heirarchy. A backbench seat is realistically as good as she'll ever get. At least right now she can go on CBC with Rick Mercer. She should enjoy her 15 minutes.

-kimmy

[maplesyrup]

She is the one person in the Liberal party that is stranding up to the unacceptable behaviour of the US, concerning their illegal war in Iraq.

The rest of the Liberal party MPs appears to be a bunch of US sychophants.

But we alrready know that, don't we?

[Cartman]

David Kilgour, an honourable man who will never get anywhere in Ottawa because he either doesn't understand the rules or won't play the game.

Or because he left a party that implemented the GST (a more honest and open sales tax compared to the MST) only to go to a party that denounced it but ended up sustaining it. So, the answer is yes (both).

Parrish is openly anti-Chretien/pro-Martin.

[maplesyrup]

I guess we can expect the usual systematic attempt to discredit Parrish's credibility, including using the mainstream media, now that she has disgraced the Canadian establishment. What a croc!

[August1991]

I have a vague suspicion that Parrish is to PM PM what Copps was to Chretien. It's a vaudeville schtick that both sides know about but neither side really acknowledges (even in private) for fear it may no longer work.

Why does the Liberal Party need this? Why is the foil a woman?

[caesar]

Parrish is openly anti-Chretien/pro-Martin.

Huh. The opposite is true. She is very anti Martin; probably with just cause.

[ticker]

I wonder if Martin would consider trading Parrish for Copps?

At least Parrish isn't deputy PM

I guess Copps is the liberal’s definition of the devil you know

[Newfie Canadian]

At this point, I am starting to wonder if she is the only politician doing anything.

I disagree with you Cartman. What is she doing besides helping to make a strained relationship worse? Who's she helping?

I guess we can expect the usual systematic attempt to discredit Parrish's credibility

She lost credibility with this Canadian with her juvenile and destructive attitudes.

She is the one person in the Liberal party that is stranding up to the unacceptable behaviour of the US

That's fine, but like it or not, he's an elected head of state. I don't hear Parrish or anyone else bellyaching about Tony Blair. If Blair came here would we hear the same stuff from that twit. I suspect not. And Blair was right there with Bush, like Straw was there with Powell and Hoon was there with Rumsfeld.

I'm no fan of Pres. Bush, and I'm all for voicing opposition to some of his policies.

But if a MP who's salary and inevitable exorbitant pension is paid for by Canadian taxpayers can't find the sense to at least be cordial and constructive in her criticisms, she should shut up.

Her attitudes and remarks could affect a relationship that's very important to the country as a whole. She should understand and keep that in mind.

All Carolyn Parrish looks like to me now is the loud mouth, obnoxious, disrespectful and childish cousin I was forced to put up with at the family Christmas get together while I was growing up.

[Cartman]

Huh. The opposite is true. She is very anti Martin; probably with just cause.

I guess I should have said that she was a Martin supporter.

[Guest eureka]

Parrish comes from an honourable tradition in Parliamentary politics. She is the one who puts principle first.

She won't go anywhere in a system that has developed subservience to the leader into a substitute to service to the people.

Parrish will not be a fit for the NDP since she does not share their political beliefs. She is a Liberal. However, on the question of standing up to a world bully and sadistic killer, she is more in tune with the better side of Canadian humanity.

She obviously does not have the capacity for leadership or great things in the political arena but she does have the common decency not to sit by where the world is crying out for visible protest.

Don't heckle Bush, sure, when he is speaking on invitation. But don't pretend to put a "relationship" above the value of hundreds of thousands of lives.

[Cartman]

People keep saying that Parrish should join the NDP, but I am not so sure that they would want her or that she would want to join them just because of a common stand on the Iraq war. She could go as an independent.

She gets attention by being part of the governing Liberals, but if she joined the NDP she would just be another whining opposition member. I suspect that she really enjoys the fact that she can get the attention by pushing the envelope because of the possible threat to leave.

[Cartman]

I wonder if Martin would consider trading Parrish for Copps?

I think you have the right idea. MP's should be treated like hockey players. Trade them at will.

[stamps]

Parrish is nothing but a grandstander... her insulting demeanour is rather embarrassing and sheds a dim light on all of us... to publicly call out and insult the leader of our country is nothing short of a disgrace... this I hate everybody who has a different view than I attitude that seems to be emanating out of eastern Canada makes our country look rather weak and I believe is a sign of deep insecurity that seems to plague that part of the country... I am in no way a Martin supporter but the disrespect she has shown the leader of our country is unforgivable in my books... the high road would be to just ignore this oaf but I think she has gone too far this time.....

[maplesyrup]

Parrish's Bush doll-stomping is beginning to get media coverage in the US.

I think Layton is handling himself well in this situation, saying that he does not want it to trivialize the importance of star wars missle defence issue.

[maplesyrup]

PM Martin's hypocrisy during the Liberal nomination mettings, leading up to the last federal election, is coming back to haunt him. How quickly we forget.

Good on Parrish for calling him on that.

[Big Blue Machine]

The liberals should get rid of her. You don't crititize your party leader and a leader of another country so viciously. If you don't have anything good to say about something, don't say anything at all.

[Newfie Canadian]

I agree BBM.

Criticism of Bush aside, she has openly defied and criticized her leader and her PM.

I just don't get what she thinks she has accomplished. She herself is now an outcast in the Liberal party, neither other party is going to want to touch her with a ten foot cattle prod.

What sympathy and cooperation is she going to get from government officials in regards to looking for help or resources for her district and constituency?

I think any leader would give her the boot for what she has done, whether it is the PM or the leader of the oppposition or the leader of any party.

[Newfie Canadian]

Well, she's toast.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStories

Good for Martin.

[Cartman]

Wow. Any predictions where she will go?

[The Terrible Sweal]

"If [Paul Martin] loses the next election and he has to resign, I wouldn't shed a tear over it."  --Carlyn Parrish

That was the end of her participation in caucus. The Liberal party can tolerate a wide range of opinions, but it will not tolerate a member who isn't completely focused on winning power.

[Black Dog]

I expect Parrish will become something of a folk-hero now. Imagine! An elected official stating a opinion and not kowtowing to the party line! The very nerve! +

The liberals should get rid of her. You don't crititize your party leader and a leader of another country so viciously. If you don't have anything good to say about something, don't say anything at all.

I'd like to think being an elected official doesn't preempt free speech. I find it telling that Martin only acted after he was criticized personally. The Bush bashing was fine, but if there's one thing the egomaniacal Martin can't stand, its criticism.

Props to Parrish for continuingly calling it like it is.

[kimmy]

The Bush bashing was fine, but if there's one thing the egomaniacal Martin can't stand, its criticism.

Parrish herself hit it right on the head: she was making Martin look weak. That's why he had to bust a cap in her ass. If he lets himself get verbally bitchslapped in public by Parrish, it's an open invitation to mutiny. It's not criticism Martin couldn't stand, it's an open, public challenge to his ability to lead the party. She more or less dared him, said she didn't think he had the stones to discipline her. How could he let a backbencher try and twist his sack like that?

What does this actually mean for our minority government? Probably not much. Wherever Parrish is sitting, the Liberals still need the support of either the Bloc or the Conservatives to win a vote, right? So is anything different today than it was yesterday?

-kimmy