Trudeau's Committment to Syrian Refugees - 25,000 by Year End

[waldo]

Right. And wasn't it you guys who tried to say that the people who drove planes into your buildings came across our border. Oops, nice try. Naw, they were already learning to just fly planes, never mind the how to land them part, on your own soil at your own airports.

whose watch was that anyway... wasn't that G.W. Bush's watch?

[waldo]

.....which is evident by the issues found with the refugees that we've already brought in.

issues?

[On Guard for Thee]

whose watch was that anyway... wasn't that G.W. Bush's watch?

Bush, Bush...where have I heard that name before?, Oh yeah, yep on his watch.

[Derek 2.0]

issues?

Housing, language training, downloading costs onto Provinces and Cities etc...

[Smallc]

They won't, but they will dictate US policy towards Canada.........call it crazy if you wish, but if the head of the FBI says they are unable to screen less than half the numbers of refugees Canada is taking in, over a far longer time, it speaks volumes to how much our process was rushed.....which is evident by the issues found with the refugees that we've already brought in.

And yet the heads of both CSIS and the RCMP said it wasn't a problem. Are you accusing them of lying? Further, your 'issues' have nothing to do with security, and everything to do with expected problems that come with a large project like this. The costs being passed to their proper jurisdiction, btw, isn't an issue, whether or not you want to manufacture it into one.

[Smallc]

No...I would assume the worst based on passed experience with Canadian policy makers and refugee risks.

You've had more of a problem with immigrants and refugees that you've let in.

Canada didn't invite anybody else to hearings either.

What reason would we have had to invite you? It had nothing to do with you (or anyone else, other than the UN).

[Derek 2.0]

And yet the heads of both CSIS and the RCMP said it wasn't a problem. Are you accusing them of lying?

Ahhh no, the elected Public Safety Minister acknowledged that there is no way to be 100% sure there are no terror suspects among the refugees, but feels the process is "strong and robust". Clearly the head of the FBI, one of the largest investigative agencies in the world, with an annual budget more than half our nations military budget, doesn't feel it can do a similar job, with less refugees over a longer period of time. Furthermore, as cited, the US DHS is now having a hearing with the US Senate over growing concerns for US security over the Liberal's Governments plan.

Clearly the FBI and US security services don't share Goodale's opinion.

Further, your 'issues' have nothing to do with security, and everything to do with expected problems that come with a large project like this. The costs being passed to their proper jurisdiction, btw, isn't an issue, whether or not you want to manufacture it into one.

I never suggested they do, as they are clearly the result of the additional failures of this program.

[bush_cheney2004]

You've had more of a problem with immigrants and refugees that you've let in.

What reason would we have had to invite you? It had nothing to do with you (or anyone else, other than the UN).

No reason to let more perps like Khadr, Arar, or Ressam that Canada lets in and worships. Heck, one of your diplomats family murdered one of our drug dealers in Florida !

The U.S. had no reason to invite Canada reps to a Senate hearing....except maybe to expertly shovel the D.C. snow.

[On Guard for Thee]

No reason to let more perps like Khadr, Arar, or Ressam that Canada lets in and worships. Heck, one of your diplomats family murdered one of our drug dealers in Florida !

The U.S. had no reason to invite Canada reps to a Senate hearing....except maybe to expertly shovel the D.C. snow.

We like to free people from your illegal prisons when they deserve it.

[Smallc]

No reason to let more perps like Khadr, Arar, or Ressam that Canada lets in and worships. Heck, one of your diplomats family murdered one of our drug dealers in Florida !

The U.S. had no reason to invite Canada reps to a Senate hearing....except maybe to expertly shovel the D.C. snow.

In other words you're chest beating.

[bush_cheney2004]

In other words you're chest beating.

Canada was not invited...get over it. Please enjoy your refugees as much as we enjoy ours. The U.S. will send Syrians back to Syria in a heart beat...just ask Maher Arar.

[WestCoastRunner]

Ahh you assume they will find places to put them.......will they jump to the front of the line over Canadians that have been waiting for years?

I would expect now that this incident is in the media, that volunteers will offer up accommodations as has been done in BC. Canadians are quite sympathetic to these refugees.

[Argus]

And yet the heads of both CSIS and the RCMP said it wasn't a problem. Are you accusing them of lying?

Absolutely. And in both official languages.

[Argus]

I would expect now that this incident is in the media, that volunteers will offer up accommodations as has been done in BC. Canadians are quite sympathetic to these refugees.

No one I know is particularly enthusiastic about them coming here, even the liberals.

[WestCoastRunner]

No one I know is particularly enthusiastic about them coming here, even the liberals.

Look. I know you self segregate but don't try and lump in all Canadians with your own views. No matter how much a refugee tries to make a better life, you would find any possible reason to beat them down.

[On Guard for Thee]

Look. I know you self segregate but don't try and lump in all Canadians with your own views. No matter how much a refugee tries to make a better life, you would find any possible reason to beat them down.

He's already been shown the error of his comment about them not learning our official languages.

[WestCoastRunner]

He's already been shown the error of his comment about them not learning our official languages.

Yes I know. Unfortunately there are many like him that are not sympathetic to individuals trying for a better life in a strange country, different languages, culture etc. Instead of working with and helping them, they instead choose to beat them while they are vulnerable.

[On Guard for Thee]

Yes I know. Unfortunately there are many like him that are not sympathetic to individuals trying for a better life in a strange country, different languages, culture etc. Instead of working with and helping them, they instead choose to beat them while they are vulnerable.

I feel so lucky to have had the educational experiences to have traveled to a lot of their countries, and experienced their hospitality.Perhaps if others had had the same opportunity it would have assuaged their fears.

[WestCoastRunner]

I feel so lucky to have had the educational experiences to have traveled to a lot of their countries, and experienced their hospitality.Perhaps if others had had the same opportunity it would have assuaged their fears.

It is truly upsetting to read all these hostile posts against other human beings. I would hope that these islamaphobes would extend themselves to experience opportunities that would put them in direct face to face communication with them. What harm could it do?

[WestCoastRunner]

And let's not forget that many of these single male Syrian refugees are really just very young men, 18 to 20ish. Yes, some are still teenagers.

[waldo]

Housing, language training, downloading costs onto Provinces and Cities etc...

you used the phrasing, "issues found with the refugees" - I thought you were implying issues found with the refugees themselves. Housing/language will sort out... doesn't appear to be significant concerns given suggestions of minimal pause period requested by groups dealing with housing... or that Languages Canada has increased its penetration to offset early suggestions of a lack of language training in certain areas. I haven't read anything in regards to your described "downloading costs onto Provinces and Cities' - cite?

[Smallc]

Canada was not invited...get over it.

And so nothing of actual value will be learned. Par for the course for Congress.

[Derek 2.0]

you used the phrasing, "issues found with the refugees" - I thought you were implying issues found with the refugees themselves. Housing/language will sort out... doesn't appear to be significant concerns given suggestions of minimal pause period requested by groups dealing with housing... or that Languages Canada has increased its penetration to offset early suggestions of a lack of language training in certain areas.

How subjective......as cited, low cost housing in Ontario has an average of a 4 year wait list. Also, as cited, language training courses in BC have an upwards wait list of 1+ years.

I haven't read anything in regards to your described "downloading costs onto Provinces and Cities' - cite?

Here and here are two quick searches.........as noted, no announced additional funding from the Federal Government, as such, someone else will be picking up the tab of healthcare, education, language training etc.

[WestCoastRunner]

How subjective......as cited, low cost housing in Ontario has an average of a 4 year wait list. Also, as cited, language training courses in BC have an upwards wait list of 1+ years.

Here and here are two quick searches.........as noted, no announced additional funding from the Federal Government, as such, someone else will be picking up the tab of healthcare, education, language training etc.

There have been plenty of announcements of organizations offering free services for the very Items you are throwing out. Why are you denying those?

[Derek 2.0]

There have been plenty of announcements of organizations offering free services for the very Items you are throwing out. Why are you denying those?

Who cares. Will these "free services" cover a fraction of the expected costs? Where were these "free services" with countless first nations/homeless/poverty/seniors/veterans groups crying crisis and lacking in funding?