Wilber Posted September 22, 2015 Report Posted September 22, 2015 Too bad the school didn't think of that before they instigated this thing in the first place. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Black Dog Posted September 22, 2015 Report Posted September 22, 2015 I have been watching TV coverage. The father is quite prominent and has no qualms of allowing his son to be interviewed. I believe that is a mistake. I do not think a 14 year old should be publicly involved in a controversy of religious connotation. Uh. The kid is the victim here. Should he not be allowed to give his side of the story? He's 14, not 4. Quote
Big Guy Posted September 22, 2015 Report Posted September 22, 2015 Uh. The kid is the victim here. Should he not be allowed to give his side of the story? He's 14, not 4. Not sure who the victim was or if there was one. The idea of prejudice against Muslims is a very sensitive one. There are very strong opinions on both sides - each with their own agenda. I would not allow my 14 year old to get caught in the crossfire. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Black Dog Posted September 22, 2015 Report Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) Not sure who the victim was or if there was one. My vote is for the guy who got put in handcuffs by the police despite doing nothing wrong. The idea of prejudice against Muslims is a very sensitive one. There are very strong opinions on both sides - each with their own agenda. I would not allow my 14 year old to get caught in the crossfire. He's not in the crossfire; he was the target. Edited September 22, 2015 by Black Dog Quote
cybercoma Posted September 22, 2015 Author Report Posted September 22, 2015 Not sure who the victim was or if there was one. Really? Quote
dre Posted September 22, 2015 Report Posted September 22, 2015 I dont think that clock looks much like a bomb at all... but given the fact the teacher THOUGHT it was a bomb, what did the teach do? Was the classroom and then the school immediately evacuated? I may have missed something but all I read was that the teacher had the kid arrested and "kept the clock". Sounds like the teacher should be fired to me. If you believe you have a bomb in a school you dont move it, you dont touch it, and you ring the fire alarm triggering a practiced evacuation of the school. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Canada_First Posted September 22, 2015 Report Posted September 22, 2015 My vote is for the guy who got put in handcuffs by the police despite doing nothing wrong. He's not in the crossfire; he was the target. Always better to safe than sorry. We didn't need another school mascacre. The police did right by placing the perp in handcuffs temporarily until all was sorted out. Nothing bad was found so he was given a stern warning and released. It was appropriate. No one was hurt which is the main thing. Quote
Topaz Posted September 23, 2015 Report Posted September 23, 2015 probably if this was the late 1960's and a kid whose parents came from Nam did the same thing, the reaction would be the same. Quote
Wilber Posted September 23, 2015 Report Posted September 23, 2015 How was this safe? Rule number one for anyone who has a procedure for suspicious items. Don't touch it and if at all possible, move people away from it. That is so basic, it shouldn't even have to be written down. They are damn lucky it wasn't a real bomb because they broke just about every rule there is. The only one hurt was the kid who got led away in cuffs. If I were him, there is no way I would want to go back to that school either. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
dre Posted September 23, 2015 Report Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) How was this safe? Rule number one for anyone who has a procedure for suspicious items. Don't touch it and if at all possible, move people away from it. That is so basic, it shouldn't even have to be written down. They are damn lucky it wasn't a real bomb because they broke just about every rule there is. The only one hurt was the kid who got led away in cuffs. If I were him, there is no way I would want to go back to that school either. That was my point as well about 4 posts up. And it casts doubt on whether the teacher really thought this was a bomb at all. Edited September 23, 2015 by dre Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Canada_First Posted September 23, 2015 Report Posted September 23, 2015 That was my point as well.. And it casts doubt on whether the teacher really thought this was a bomb at all.The police arrested the kid. The teachers didn't. Better off being wrong then being dead. Quote
eyeball Posted September 23, 2015 Report Posted September 23, 2015 Uh. The kid is the victim here. Should he not be allowed to give his side of the story? He's 14, not 4. 14.... If he was Canadian, Ottawa would have given US officials the nod to rendition this man to Syria to tell his story. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Canada_First Posted September 23, 2015 Report Posted September 23, 2015 14.... If he was Canadian, Ottawa would have given US officials the nod to rendition this man to Syria to tell his story. What are you saying about Canada? Quote
Wilber Posted September 23, 2015 Report Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) The police arrested the kid. The teachers didn't. Better off being wrong then being dead. Arresting the kid is a side show to the real issue here. If you think something might be a bomb. TREAT IT LIKE A GODAM BOMB. Edited September 23, 2015 by Wilber Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
dre Posted September 23, 2015 Report Posted September 23, 2015 The police arrested the kid. The teachers didn't. Better off being wrong then being dead. Better of reading my post than accidently responding with giberish thats not germaine to what youre replying to Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Canada_First Posted September 23, 2015 Report Posted September 23, 2015 Arresting the kid is a side show to the real issue here. If you think something might be a bomb. TREAT IT LIKE A GODAM BOMB.They treated it as a serious threat. A kid brought a questionable looking device to school. The teacher thought it looked questionable enough to notify the proper authorities. Those authorities decided it best to detain this young adult and question him until they were satisfied. I would hope that teachers at my child's school would protect my child in the same manner. God Bless. Quote
dre Posted September 23, 2015 Report Posted September 23, 2015 They treated it as a serious threat. No they didnt. They claim they believed it was a bomb yet they did not even evacuate the classroom or the school. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Wilber Posted September 23, 2015 Report Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) They treated it as a serious threat. A kid brought a questionable looking device to school. The teacher thought it looked questionable enough to notify the proper authorities. Those authorities decided it best to detain this young adult and question him until they were satisfied. I would hope that teachers at my child's school would protect my child in the same manner. God Bless. They treated the kid as a threat. They did everything wrong when it came to treating the supposed bomb as a threat. If teachers in my grandkids schools treated a supposed bomb the way they did, I would want to know the reason why and I would want to know why the school district had no procedures for dealing with suspect objects. As a retired airline pilot comparing the comprehensive procedures and training airlines have for bomb threats and suspect objects with what these people did, I can't tell you how badly they screwed up. Edited September 23, 2015 by Wilber Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
drummindiver Posted September 23, 2015 Report Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) Thats not what happened, Big Guy. ---SNIP--- Yes, that is precisely how the police and principle of a school would react to a bomb-scare. Exactly by the book just like they did. Better check your story. And they thought it was a bomb because it looked like a bomb. Plus, when asked, the kid played games. Edited September 23, 2015 by Charles Anthony ---SNIP--- Quote
Black Dog Posted September 23, 2015 Report Posted September 23, 2015 Better check your story. And they thought it was a bomb because it looked like a bomb. Plus, when asked, the kid played games. What games specifically? Tetris? By all accounts the kid told his teachers, school administration and cops it was a clock and never wavered. Should he have gone along with their delusion instead? Quote
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