Freddy Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 And no functional children over there , is that right? take Trudeau as a example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 take Trudeau as a example. So...you figure leading one of the main political parties in the country is non-functional. OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 Harper can stimulate the economy till he turns blue in the face, there is no economy to stimulate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 So...you figure leading one of the main political parties in the country is non-functional. OK. That he is the leader of one of Canada's historically leading party is a good indication of the point I'm making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 A cut in gst provides no incentive to save or invest, while income tax reductions lead to investments in training and equipment, which is good for growth and productivity. It must be a sad community you live in. There are lots of kids on my street working summer jobs to help them with ext years college or university year. Why haven't you said that before....that you agree with a low-tax approach to attract investment? Now we're getting somewhere. Since that automatically negates a vote for the NDP - and you absolutely hate anything Conservative, I guess your hopes rest with the Liberals? Or did I miss something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 Harper can stimulate the economy till he turns blue in the face, there is no economy to stimulate. You think that economic activity is only achieved when something is built? Well, that's interesting. Canada has an economy worth just south of $2T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 Social media stats during debate: Most Twitter tweets. Trudeau. May 2nd Harper 3rd Google search. Trudeau 1st Facebook. Harper 1st Trudeau 2nd. May 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 Oh yes, I've been 'advised' that India and China kind of agree that one day, far in the future, they'll consider taking steps which will in some way perhaps curtail the increase in their emissions. It's easy to talk. It's even easy to sign a solemn agreement as Chretien did, and then do absolutely nothing about it. cite support to your unsubstantiated statement, "far in the future"... sure you can! "solemn agreement signed by Chretien'??? Oh you mean the ratification of Kyoto! Once again, another dose of your naivety... the Liberals did much towards setting up the requirements for a working response to meeting Kyoto commitments. Apparently, you know nothing about the time/effort to get all provinces on board... in your neophyte world that's "doing absolutely nothing". Again, I documented in previous MLW threads, many of the steps taken by the Liberal Party towards meeting Kyoto commitments. And here you have the gall to speak of "doing absolutely nothing" in the face of Harper's immediate abandonment of Kyoto when he took the keys (substituting his alternate "made in Canada" solution)... leading right on through the years to the eventual formal withdrawal from Kyoto to avoid paying the penalty for non-compliance. That sir... that is Harper doing absolutely nothing about Kyoto! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 Oh yes, I've been 'advised' that India and China kind of agree that one day, far in the future, they'll consider taking steps which will in some way perhaps curtail the increase in their emissions. It's easy to talk. It's even easy to sign a solemn agreement as Chretien did, and then do absolutely nothing about it. Yep....Chretien even blamed his own party for Canada's epic Kyoto FAIL....and the current group of "leadership" clowns can and will do the same thing: Former prime minister Jean Chrétien is blaming his own Liberals in part for Canada's failure to meet the Kyoto targets for cutting greenhouse gases. During an appearance yesterday at a Liberal conference on foreign policy in Toronto, Chrétien pointedly said "we lost four years" in living up to Kyoto – two of those years including the time Paul Martin succeeded him as prime minister and when Stéphane Dion, now Liberal leader, was environment minister. ...Chrétien said yesterday that Canada was on track to try to meet its Kyoto targets at the end of his term in office in 2003, but that the plan foundered when Martin took over, four years ago this week. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/24766-leaders-debate-aug-6/page-13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 Mr. Mulcair said an NDP government would support a cap-and-trade approach to carbon emissions that is in line with the program already in place in Quebec. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/energy-sector-wants-clearer-environmental-rules-mulcair-says/article24916946/ http://globalnews.ca/video/1937800/federal-liberals-applaud-wynnes-cap-and-trade-plan-for-ontario bingo... thankee! ... and in their 2008 election platform, Harper Conservatives promised to "develop and implement a North-American-wide cap-and-trade system, with implementation to occur between 2012 and 2015." but you distinctly said both "Mulcair and Trudeau"... wonder why you didn't cite anything for Trudeau & cap-and-trade, hey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 You want to save this economy? Subsidies raw material production, so that it hits the market at such a cheap cost, people can buy it to produce their own everything. Commodities are already really cheap. That's one of the reasons our economy is not exactly booming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 You think that economic activity is only achieved when something is built? Well, that's interesting. Canada has an economy worth just south of $2T. And, today without oil? How much are we at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 (edited) Commodities are already really cheap. That's one of the reasons our economy is not exactly booming.Why is it I can't find maple at my local hardware store for less then 50$ a board?If people can't go to their local store, buy raw materials and produce something they can relatively sell easily for a profit. This economy is dead in the water. Edited August 9, 2015 by Freddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 And, today without oil? How much are we at? Just shy of $2T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 the Liberals did much towards setting up the requirements for a working response to meeting Kyoto commitments. Did much? Towards setting up the requirements!? "for a working response to meeting commitments!"?! What bureaucracy spawned that kind of doubletaking nothingspeak!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 Why is it I can't find maple at my local hardware store for less then 50$ a board? Maybe your hardware store is making a big profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Just shy of $2T. So why is 14% of youths at home unemployed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Maybe your hardware store is making a big profit. Well there is one problem. To much mock up on raw materials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 So why is 14% of youths at home unemployed? They've pretty much always been. I can't make them take the jobs they don't want to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Government should inspect and assure no excessive mock up are on raw materials to assure everyone can always have the option to produce everything themselves instead of relying on China for everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 They've pretty much always been. I can't make them take the jobs they don't want to do. If anyone could buy raw materials and produce clothes cheaper then the cost of buying from China, youths would make there clothing, and learn a skill in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Yep....Chretien even blamed his own party for Canada's epic Kyoto FAIL....and the current group of "leadership" clowns can and will do the same thing: Former prime minister Jean Chrétien is blaming his own Liberals in part for Canada's failure to meet the Kyoto targets for cutting greenhouse gases. During an appearance yesterday at a Liberal conference on foreign policy in Toronto, Chrétien pointedly said "we lost four years" in living up to Kyoto – two of those years including the time Paul Martin succeeded him as prime minister and when Stéphane Dion, now Liberal leader, was environment minister. ...Chrétien said yesterday that Canada was on track to try to meet its Kyoto targets at the end of his term in office in 2003, but that the plan foundered when Martin took over, four years ago this week. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/24766-leaders-debate-aug-6/page-13 wonder why a claimed American spends so much time on a Canada/Kyoto fixation... you quite literally have a brazillion posts on this! Of course, as is your way, you shape shift between your, "Canada's Kyoto FAIL" and your "Liberal Kyoto FAIL". Your whole fixation is bloody amazing in that, in your naivety, you've repeatedly criticized Kyoto on so many levels! For something you really, really, really don't like/don't care for, you sure spend a lot of time trying to bait others on it with your targeted "FAIL" labeling... one would think you would relish any presumption on Kyoto FAIL! of course, also as is my way, each and every time you bleat on with your "Canada's Kyoto FAIL", I will remind you of the real Kyoto FAIL... the U.S. Kyoto FAIL! You know, where the U.S. significantly influenced the makeup of the agreement, made promises to the nations present in negotiations, influenced nations towards their own target commitments, signed the agreement... and then walked away from it! That sir, that is the "Kyoto FAIL"... the U.S. Kyoto FAIL! but now you're just recycling... although this time, against MLW Forum Rules, you fail to provide a cite to support your quote. At least you did provide the cite in one of your earlier posts of this same prattle - here: since you're recycling, let me do the same with a response I provided to an earlier like post you made with that same exact quote: no - you've tried this already. That simply reflects on the long-standing Harper-Martin feud. Again, you've been provided with full details/timelines that show exactly what Liberals did during the long period between the signing and ratification... and the plans and budgets and money spent. but you know all this... you've had it detailed for you several times now; detailed with events, dates, timelines, etc. You know all this. And it's exactly why you purposely worded your initial post in the way you did, making a purposeful trolling distinction where you say, "Kyoto was a ratified Canadian FAIL long before PM Harper came along." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) The problem with our economy is that raw materials are more expensive then what the cost of one already made in China. This serves as a double whammy, because the skills learned from producing clothing would be a valuable life lesson to continue on your journey to success. Regulate, and control raw material costs locally to assure anyone can buy lumber, or cloths and make their own for relatively cheaper then China, and watch as our economy triple's in the next 5 years. Edited August 9, 2015 by Freddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Did much? Towards setting up the requirements!? "for a working response to meeting commitments!"?! What bureaucracy spawned that kind of doubletaking nothingspeak!? hey, when you've got nothing else... try your own nothingspeak! It's not difficult Argus... "without gaining the support of each and every province it would have been very difficult to move on meeting emission reduction requirements... you know... the working response to meeting the Kyoto commitments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) When people produce things, economies boom. That's what the golden age was. People producing and getting really good at it. You don't get good at anything watching tv in your parents basement checking face book every half an hour. Edited August 9, 2015 by Freddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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