-1=e^ipi Posted May 28, 2015 Report Posted May 28, 2015 And most men I know would love to be treated as a sex object. You know this how? You asked most men you know if they want to be treated as a sex object? Or are you just basing this off the sexist stereotype that men want sex all the time? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted May 28, 2015 Report Posted May 28, 2015 Or are you just basing this off the sexist stereotype that men want sex all the time? WCR - do you see what I mean now ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
WestCoastRunner Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Posted May 28, 2015 Why do you make frivolous statements like that ? You know full well that the ridiculous "everything must be equal" crew will jump down your throat for statements like that. It's not a troll, but it's bait like chum for a shark. It's not a frivolous statement. It's true for me. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Posted May 28, 2015 WCR - do you see what I mean now ? No I don't. I wasn't joking. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) You know this how? You asked most men you know if they want to be treated as a sex object? Or are you just basing this off the sexist stereotype that men want sex all the time?If we took a poll right now I bet the majority of men on this forum would say hell yes.And I would start one except I'm on my smartphone. Edited May 28, 2015 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Michael Hardner Posted May 28, 2015 Report Posted May 28, 2015 It's not a frivolous statement. It's true for me. Unfortunately the standard for making statements about groups pushes us to go beyond the anecdotal and personal. Of course, you can post it, but the discussion value is negligible. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
WestCoastRunner Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Posted May 28, 2015 Unfortunately the standard for making statements about groups pushes us to go beyond the anecdotal and personal. Of course, you can post it, but the discussion value is negligible. And that is your opinion. Fair enough. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
-1=e^ipi Posted May 28, 2015 Report Posted May 28, 2015 It's not a frivolous statement. It's true for me. No I don't. I wasn't joking. If we took a poll right now I bet the majority of men on this forum would say hell yes. Wow. This is literally one of the 5 myths of male rape on the wiki page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_rape#Males_always_want_sex Quote
Bonam Posted May 28, 2015 Report Posted May 28, 2015 Why do you make frivolous statements like that ? You know full well that the ridiculous "everything must be equal" crew will jump down your throat for statements like that. It's not a troll, but it's bait like chum for a shark. Entertaining that rather than condemning the statement for what it is, you instead commiserate with the offender about the "ridiculous crew" that will respond to the statement. Ah... forum facilitation. I suppose if the intent of facilitation is to generate more posts, then trolling is one approach. Quote
Bonam Posted May 28, 2015 Report Posted May 28, 2015 If we took a poll right now I bet the majority of men on this forum would say hell yes. Say yes to being a "sex object"? Could you define what is involved in being a "sex object"? The majority of the men on this forum would likely say hell yes to having sex with someone they find attractive, yes. But it's not clear to me that being a sex object only entails having sex when you want it with people you want to have it with. If it was, then surely women wouldn't mind being looked upon as sex objects either? Quote
Bob Macadoo Posted May 28, 2015 Report Posted May 28, 2015 Entertaining that rather than condemning the statement for what it is, you instead commiserate with the offender about the "ridiculous crew" that will respond to the statement. Ah... forum facilitation. I suppose if the intent of facilitation is to generate more posts, then trolling is one approach. Trolling or trolling apoplectic reactions are the same......just a big clump of hair and gum clogging the drain......which you helped prove. Your reaction is not ridiculous......just predictable. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted May 28, 2015 Report Posted May 28, 2015 Entertaining that rather than condemning the statement for what it is, you instead commiserate with the offender about the "ridiculous crew" that will respond to the statement. The statement, as it is, is not a troll nor is it incorrect. What it is, is a "some of my best friends are..." kind of statement. I'm pretty sure that if somebody wrote "all the women I know are happy to stay in the kitchen" then there would be asimilar reaction ... but that statement would have the same qualities. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
cybercoma Posted May 28, 2015 Report Posted May 28, 2015 Why do you make frivolous statements like that ? You know full well that the ridiculous "everything must be equal" crew will jump down your throat for statements like that. It's not a troll, but it's bait like chum for a shark. Because the tone has been set to not have any sort of sensible dialogue, so why bother giving serious responses? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted May 28, 2015 Report Posted May 28, 2015 We can always make it better Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Hal 9000 Posted May 29, 2015 Report Posted May 29, 2015 That's hilarious! What if the partner is a man? And most men I know would love to be treated as a sex object. Well, you did take a male health issue and find a way of making women out to be victims of this issue. But, maybe if that's the way we sell it to the government and public, we'll see some policy change. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Bonam Posted May 29, 2015 Report Posted May 29, 2015 We can always make it better Doubtful. I think a lot of members have stopped really trying... why bother? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted May 29, 2015 Report Posted May 29, 2015 I'm not sure why. I sure put a lot of work into it, though. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Spiderfish Posted May 29, 2015 Report Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) It's not a frivolous statement. It's true for me. Well if it's true for you , then it must be an indisputable premise based in fact, eh? The experiences you have had with men in the past that apparently form the skewed perception you hold currently do not necessarily form the societal consensus. In other words, it is a frivolous (and presumptuous) statement. Edited May 29, 2015 by Spiderfish Quote
Spiderfish Posted May 29, 2015 Report Posted May 29, 2015 And that is your opinion. Fair enough. No, it's not an opinion. The formation and supporting of stereotypes such as the one you presented is based on personal experience and bias, it's not representative of any fact or "truth". Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted May 30, 2015 Author Report Posted May 30, 2015 We can always make it better Yes we can including the moderators stopping trolling in its tracks. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted May 30, 2015 Author Report Posted May 30, 2015 Well, you did take a male health issue and find a way of making women out to be victims of this issue. But, maybe if that's the way we sell it to the government and public, we'll see some policy change. How did I make women out to be victims? Doesn't partners include men? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted May 30, 2015 Author Report Posted May 30, 2015 But, maybe if that's the way we sell it to the government and public, we'll see some policy change. Are you suggesting women's issues are the catalyst for policy changes? Do you have a cite? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Hal 9000 Posted May 31, 2015 Report Posted May 31, 2015 Are you suggesting women's issues are the catalyst for policy changes? Do you have a cite? Yes! and...Really, you need a cite to know that...really? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
WestCoastRunner Posted May 31, 2015 Author Report Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) Yes! and...Really, you need a cite to know that...really?Absolutely! Everyone else asks for cites around here. Why can't I? Edited May 31, 2015 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Hal 9000 Posted May 31, 2015 Report Posted May 31, 2015 Absolutely! Everyone else asks for cites around here. Why can't I? Are you saying that you disagree with my comment? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
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