White racial violence problem?

H10 · May 19, 2015

This week almost 200 white men were arrested and 9 left shot dead, after a break out of white racial violence,again, in waco texas.

waco is the same texas city where a white man by the name of David Koresh launch an all out war on federal agents leading to the death of over 76 people.

http://newsone.com/3115717/9-dead-texas-biker-gang-shootout-police-response/

I initially didn't intend to post this story from a racial/cultural perspective. But I was just over on another thread on the exact same topic except on black culture/people. Further I recalled another current event where a professor at Boston University Saida Grundy raised an interesting question about white culture.

Often we don't think of these as white cultural problems or issues, we almost never discuss them. There isn't a thread I can see on here about white racial violence.

Then you had the North Carolina cop shooting the black man in the back, and the white Soviet terrorist bomber Tsarnaev who has just been sentenced to death after killing 5 people, injuring 16 cops and maiming almost 300 people.

Then you have the Sandy hook shooting where a young white man shot and killed 28 people mostly children and himself.

Then you have the Cindy Gladue case where a white canadian man raped a native indian woman to death and was let off scott free with murder? Why did white jurors find this acceptable? Had an indian man raped a white woman to death he would be in prison so fast his head would spin!

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/cindy-gladue-case-why-the-not-guilty-verdict-has-sparked-outrage-1.2309102

And Jared Lee Loughner who shot 11 people, killed 6 including a federal judge and brain damaged promising congress woman.

Then you have Joseph Jesse Aldridge who in 2015, shot and killed 8 people

And Ronald Lee Haskell, Jr, who in 2014 shot and killed 6 people.

Oh and James Eagan Holmes who was the dark knight shooter wounded 70 and killed 12

You also have the sikh temple shooter.

And the Anders Brevik shooting and bombing which resulted in over 200 injured and almost 100 dead.

"In 1921, over a 24-hour time period, whites destroyed the prosperous black community in Tulsa, Oklahoma. White rioters used machine guns and dropped bombs (in what may be one of the first recorded uses of a plane for that purpose) on the black community. Conservative estimates suggest that at least several hundred black people were killed.

Scholars such as James Loewen estimate that as many as 3,000 black communities were “ethnically cleansed” by white violence and other means of intimidation"

Historian Gregory Downs has suggested that as many as 50,000 black Americans were killed by white racial terrorism in the 30 years following the end of the American Civil War. This total may not even include at least 4,000 blacks who were victims of lynchings by whites across the South and other parts of the United States."

http://www.salon.com/2015/05/01/white_americas_racial_amnesia_the_sobering_truth_about_our_countrys_race_riots_partner/

" Pew estimates that 67 percent of black dads who don’t live with their kids see them at least once a month, compared to 59 percent of white dads and just 32 percent of Hispanic dads."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/13/black-fatherhood-statistics_n_5491980.html

What role do white absent fathers play in this?

Whites who form 62% of the population are arrested for 75% of all rapes in America according to the FBI and upwards of 80% of all sex assaults.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/SOO.PDF

" But a new report from the Equal Justice Initiative (EJI) shows that the American past is even bloodier than we thought. According to “Lynching in America: Confronting the Legacy of Racial Terror,” between the years 1877 and 1950, nearly 4,000 African-Americans were lynched by Southern whites. In fact, during the years spent researching for the report, EJI claims to have found at least 700 more examples of racial terrorism than previously known. And as EJI founder and leader Bryan Stevenson recently told the New York Times, these barbaric acts of violence had a symbolic, political purpose, just like ISIS’s most-publicized crimes."

More people were murdered than under 9/11, yet almost none of these people were held to account for their violent actions.

You even had another white man shoot at George Zimmerman, a 19 year old hispanic man in long beach gun downed by a white cop and another hispanic man by the last name of zambrano shot to death by another white cop.

"Video footage that showed the Mexican man running away, then turning around with arms outstretched just as police fired, prompted months of protests."

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/22/antonio-zambrano-montes-pasco-shooting-police-saved-fire

"Sandeep Singh, a 29-year-old Sikh man, who was run over and dragged 30 feet by a white man driving a pickup truck in Queens, shouting “Go back to your own country, Bin Laden!”

http://www.racefiles.com/2014/08/20/why-ferguson-matters-to-asian-americans/

"filipino woman shot dead by white cops in costco"

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Deputy-Shot-at-Costco-in-Sterling-209389621.html

Vietnamese woman murdered by white cop

"Tran's death and a grand jury's refusal to indict Officer Chad Marshall galvanized the area's Vietnamese Americans to action like nothing else in their nearly 30-year history in San Jose. "

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Police-shooting-in-San-Jose-stirs-Vietnamese-into-2507951.php

White police man murder Asian Yee Vang and no indictement.

White cops also shot

Phuong Na in vancouver

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-police-shooting-captured-on-video-by-teen-1.2848561

There also seems to be from the Vietnamese perspective a pattern of anti-vietnamese white police brutality in american cities like San Jose

http://www.asian-nation.org/headlines/2009/11/incidents-anti-vietnamese-police-brutality-san-jose/

http://thesocietypages.org/colorline/2009/11/02/incidents-of-anti-vietnamese-police-brutality-in-san-jose/

http://www.mercurynews.com/topstories/ci_13498199?source=infinite

Another young vietnamese man gun downed by white cops with no indictment

Do you think there is a white racial violence problem? And if so what is the root cause of this problem? Is it something to do with the white culture glorifying guns and violence? Why does there appear to be a pattern of white people and white police targeting Asians, hispanics, native indian, indian and blacks like this? What is it in the white culture that makes young white men believe this type of behaviour is normal. And what of the white women and men who refuse to indict or convict white men who are seemingly guilty of these types of crimes? How come we don't talk more about white racial violence when there are so many examples of it like the ones listed above. In Canada, whites are convicted of over 67% of all crimes and outnumber the next largest group (aborginals) by about 3-5 times despite being stopped at a far less rate. What role does white underclass culture play in this.

While black Canadians form just 5% of the population they are targeted for 42% of all hate crimes.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-x/2014001/article/14028-eng.htm

According to Dr. Boyce Watkins study, if whites were stopped at the same rate as non-whites in America, and prosecuted in a similar manner, whites would form somewhere between 10-20 million of the prison population. This would represent some serious numbers as USA has a prison population of around 1.5-2.3 million americans in jail depending on how it is measured. White Americans represent 70% of all arrest in America, but just 62% of the population according to the fbi figures.

https://youtu.be/HgsZ9N8Bs_w

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43

Whites in Russia have a high crime rate too, as do those in Brazil.

"The only other major industrialized nation that even comes close is Russia, with 627 prisoners for every 100,000 people. The others have much lower rates. England's rate is 151; Germany's is 88; and Japan's is 63."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/world/americas/23iht-23prison.12253738.html?pagewanted=all

Meaning the 3 most populous white nations, all have very high crime rates and rates of crime of and criminals.

"The journal Crime & Delinquency published the study Monday, which found that 49 percent of African-American males and 40 percent of Caucasians had been arrested by 23."

http://rt.com/usa/50-black-40-white-arrested-297/

With a population of well over 200 million, there has been more whites arrested in America than total number of blacks, hispanics and asians COMBINED!

Of the countries with the 4 highest amounts of criminals sitting in prison, convicted by a jury of their own peers. 3 of the four are white majority. (USA, BRAZIL, RUSSIA, AND CHINA). And in the top ten 7 of 10 are caucasian majority countries according to us census standards.

I want to know, what is the root cause of this white crime problem and what can be done to resolve it? And why is it so little discussed? I would appreciate it if members stayed on topic of what is the root cause of this and why it occurs and look forward to hearing people's opinions.

Shady · May 19, 2015

Biker gangs are composed of not just whites.

Freddy · May 19, 2015

Ever noticed how everyone on earth will work for 2$ a day, but a white Male won't?

Maybe it's a take no BS culture.

Edited May 19, 2015 by Freddy

Michael Hardner · May 19, 2015

Maybe it's a take no BS culture.

Anything that is as complex and as textured as a culture can necessarily be described in positive or negative ways. "Take no BS" is a positive way.

Freddy · May 19, 2015

Anything that is as complex and as textured as a culture can necessarily be described in positive or negative ways. "Take no BS" is a positive way.

Which is the point. You have to take the good with the bad. If it wasn't for white Males I bet humans would still be living in dirt huts.

Never heard any native Americans or black Africans thanks white folks for showing them a easier way of life with running water. Electricity and all those lovely luxury's. Your welcome btw.

Maybe white folks need to apologize for figuring out all that great stuff.

Sorry everyone that white folks figued out how to completely dominate everything on earth. We were only doing it out of our natural instinct to survive.

I'd like to apologize to all humans on behalf of the white males, for figuring out all this modern medicine that's pushed our life expectancy so high.

I'm really sorry everyone. It's not our fault. We have a strong drive to be dominant and not die from viruses.

We suffer from Alpha Male syndrome. Something nature has produced in most living things on earth. It's helped us survive.

Edited May 19, 2015 by Freddy

Michael Hardner · May 19, 2015

No, even Egyptians and Sumerians did better than that.

Freddy · May 19, 2015

No, even Egyptians and Sumerians did better than that.

How so. Please explain.

Michael Hardner · May 19, 2015

See the pyramids - not white male built.

Argus · May 19, 2015

I initially didn't intend to post this story from a racial/cultural perspective. But I was just over on another thread on the exact same topic except on black culture/people.

The difference being that other topic was replete with facts and statistics and you have nothing here. This is a troll topic.

Often we don't think of these as white cultural problems or issues, we almost never discuss them. There isn't a thread I can see on here about white racial violence.

The last time I checked the FBI stats Blacks were responsible for about half the crime in the US. The remainder was split between Whites and Asians, however, until this year Hispanics were lumped in with Whites. I'm guessing that the newer stats will show crime committed by Whites plunging.

Then you had the North Carolina cop shooting the black man in the back, and the white Soviet terrorist bomber Tsarnaev who has just been sentenced to death after killing 5 people, injuring 16 cops and maiming almost 300 people.

Would you like me to post all the dreadful, brutal sex murders committed by Blacks on Whites? According to the stats Blacks commit massive numbers of sex attacks on White women every year, while Whites commit virtually no sexual attacks on Blacks.

I know you deeply resent the absolutely undeniable fact that Blacks, particularly young Black men are far and away more involved in violent crime than any other racial group, but it's an undeniable fact. There are a lot of cultural and socioeconomic reasons for it, but this self-pitying whining and farcical accusations against Whites is just anal gasses on your part.

Edited May 19, 2015 by Argus

Argus · May 19, 2015

See the pyramids - not white male built.

And your point being what? Lots of neat engineering feats were done with brute strength and some pretty good math in the distant past? The Romans did some nifty things, too.

But it wasn't Sumerians who figured out the germ theory of medicine, and neither group led us from horse and buggies to rocketships.

Freddy · May 19, 2015

And your point being what? Lots of neat engineering feats were done with brute strength and some pretty good math in the distant past? The Romans did some nifty things, too.But it wasn't Sumerians who figured out the germ theory of medicine, and neither group led us from horse and buggies to rocketships.

Its our constant race forward, to survive and stay on top , to not become someone else's slave that pushed us to discover all that.

If everyone was behaving nice humans would still be living in dirt huts. Because there would have never been the need to invent a bigger rocket to defend yourself from the other tribes bigger rocket.

Like I said before. You have to take the good with the bad in this life. You can't just have one of the two.

Edited May 19, 2015 by Freddy

cybercoma · May 19, 2015

And your point being what? Lots of neat engineering feats were done with brute strength and some pretty good math in the distant past? The Romans did some nifty things, too.

But it wasn't Sumerians who figured out the germ theory of medicine, and neither group led us from horse and buggies to rocketships.

Are you getting a lot of use out of your rocketship these days? I sold mine on eBay.

Freddy · May 19, 2015

Are you getting a lot of use out of your rocketship these days? I sold mine on eBay.

Our drone rockets are very useful. Not sure other tribes can compete with them yet.

H10 · May 19, 2015

Its our constant race forward, to survive and stay on top , to not become someone else's slave that pushed us to discover all that.

If everyone was behaving nice humans would still be living in dirt huts. Because there would have never been the need to invent a bigger rocket to defend yourself from the other tribes bigger rocket.

Like I said before. You have to take the good with the bad in this life. You can't just have one of the two.

So you are saying the violence in white culture is just part of the bad that comes along with good parts of white culture? Please expand. Where does this white fear of enslavement come from? Most whites were not enslaved in any recent period. Although the Romans had slaves not all of them were white, most of them were not western europeans, who are the ones making most the white inventions. Why do whites have such a deep fear of slavery in the modern era, when they hadn't been enslaved in large numbers in probably millenniunas?

H10 · May 19, 2015

And your point being what? Lots of neat engineering feats were done with brute strength and some pretty good math in the distant past? The Romans did some nifty things, too.

But it wasn't Sumerians who figured out the germ theory of medicine, and neither group led us from horse and buggies to rocketships.

To be accurate European whites never figured out germ theory either, they just take credit for a pre-existing idea, the africans and chinese had already been practicing vaccination for 2000 years before the europeans had any knowledge of germs; kind of like how they claim to discover americas.

Freddy · May 19, 2015

So you are saying the violence in white culture is just part of the bad that comes along with good parts of white culture? Please expand. Where does this white fear of enslavement come from? Most whites were not enslaved in any recent period. Although the Romans had slaves not all of them were white, most of them were not western europeans, who are the ones making most the white inventions. Why do whites have such a deep fear of slavery in the modern era, when they hadn't been enslaved in large numbers in probably millenniunas?

The same way the gazelles are afraid of being eaten by lions. Its survival. Who will be the lions among The humans? If it's not us it will be someone else.

Edited May 19, 2015 by Freddy

H10 · May 19, 2015

The difference being that other topic was replete with facts and statistics and you have nothing here. This is a troll topic.

The last time I checked the FBI stats Blacks were responsible for about half the crime in the US. The remainder was split between Whites and Asians, however, until this year Hispanics were lumped in with Whites. I'm guessing that the newer stats will show crime committed by Whites plunging.

Would you like me to post all the dreadful, brutal sex murders committed by Blacks on Whites? According to the stats Blacks commit massive numbers of sex attacks on White women every year, while Whites commit virtually no sexual attacks on Blacks.

I know you deeply resent the absolutely undeniable fact that Blacks, particularly young Black men are far and away more involved in violent crime than any other racial group, but it's an undeniable fact. There are a lot of cultural and socioeconomic reasons for it, but this self-pitying whining and farcical accusations against Whites is just anal gasses on your part.

One of the things I do notice, is there does seem to be a minority of whites who are incapable of taking any criticism nor being subject matter of any discussion. We have threads about arabs, blacks, asians, indians, aboriginal crimes etc. But when one is made on whites, and they are asked to account for their actions, why is it automatically for some whites to talk about blacks or hispanics or asians, or arabs?

Why aren't we allowed to talk about white crime in your view?

Why can we not talk about what is causing white crime. This week over 200 arrested, 9 dead in a single day, and we are suppose to pretend like there isn't a white criminal problem?

White Americans constitute 70% of all arrested and 40% of white americans will be arrested at some point. That is almost as much as the entire population of the Philippines. Are you going to just ignore all the stats and deny white crime is a problem, despite whites committing 80% of sex assaults in the united states each year?

As for black crime there is a 13 page long thread on it, feel free to post your stats on blacks over there. This thread is specifically about white crime.

H10 · May 19, 2015

The same way the gazelles are afraid of being eaten by lions. Its survival.

Ok but, lions still eat gazzelles, who still enslaves whites?

Freddy · May 19, 2015

Ok but, lions still eat gazzelles, who still enslaves whites?

No one as long as whites are the lions among humans.

Argus · May 19, 2015

One of the things I do notice, is there does seem to be a minority of whites who are incapable of taking any criticism nor being subject matter of any discussion. We have threads about arabs, blacks, asians, indians, aboriginal crimes etc. But when one is made on whites, and they are asked to account for their actions, why is it automatically for some whites to talk about blacks or hispanics or asians, or arabs?

Why aren't we allowed to talk about white crime in your view?

Well, you could... but that would mean talking about how law-abiding Whites are compared to Blacks, wouldn't it? I mean, if you were being honest, which you're not.

Freddy · May 19, 2015

To be accurate European whites never figured out germ theory either, they just take credit for a pre-existing idea, the africans and chinese had already been practicing vaccination for 2000 years before the europeans had any knowledge of germs; kind of like how they claim to discover americas.

Sounds like you're butt hurt

Let me apologize on behalf of the white folks for being so dominant and controlling everything. nature made them to awesome.

Edited May 19, 2015 by Freddy

Michael Hardner · May 19, 2015

And your point being what? Lots of neat engineering feats were done with brute strength and some pretty good math in the distant past? The Romans did some nifty things, too.

I'm not making a point, I'm responding to Freddy's assertion.

Freddy · May 19, 2015

In the end everyone is butt hurt that white folks enslaved everything first.

But I'm sure if it was black folks who had invented sailing ships, cannons, guns , first and mass produced them, they ,would have done the same to white people. Maybe even worse.

Anyone pretending that's not true is a hypocrite imo.

Argus · May 19, 2015

In the end everyone is butt hurt that white folks enslaved everything first.

But I'm sure if it was black folks who had invented sailing ships, cannons, guns , first and mass produced them, they ,would have done the same to white people. Maybe even worse.

Anyone pretending that's not true is a hypocrite imo.

Slavery is not a White concept. It's been practiced on every continent, so far as I know. The best theory I've heard which explains the superiority of Europeans says that because of the harsh conditions (well, compared to places where you can get three crops in a year) cooperation was an absolute necessity among members of society. The cold weather was also a big reason for innovation. You're never content to just sit on your laurels when your laurels are half frozen. And they certainly did seem to have a culture of repeated innovations which gradually pushed their technological abilities (including military) further and further ahead of peoples in warmer parts of the world. Even when things were invented elsewhere it was often some European who saw a way to make a broader use of that development.

Freddy · May 19, 2015

Slavery is not a White concept. It's been practiced on every continent, so far as I know. The best theory I've heard which explains the superiority of Europeans says that because of the harsh conditions (well, compared to places where you can get three crops in a year) cooperation was an absolute necessity among members of society. The cold weather was also a big reason for innovation. You're never content to just sit on your laurels when your laurels are half frozen. And they certainly did seem to have a culture of repeated innovations which gradually pushed their technological abilities (including military) further and further ahead of peoples in warmer parts of the world. Even when things were invented elsewhere it was often some European who saw a way to make a broader use of that development.

I've read something about this somewhere too.

This is why I will spend the rest of my life apologizing to Native Americans for being too awesome and totally kicking the living crap out of them.

Sorry for being way too dominant. I'd like to apologize on behalf of nature for making me this way. I'm sure she is very sorry.