Big Guy Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 The military plans some exercises in parts of its own country. Locals read this as a coming coup accompanied by Marshall law and the local leader puts his troops on notice to monitor the federal forces. Some third world country? No Some Middle East somethingstan? No It is the proud State of Texas of the (kind of) United States of America! The Pentagon has stated that it will be holding exercises over a few of the states to train the military for overseas duty. Some Texans have read that as a pending invasion and the declaration of Marshall Law. Every area have their own kooks so this must be a few guys living in cabins and living off the land? No it is not. It is a large number of citizens in the state "Don't Mess With Texas" and accompanied by their governor. Texas governor Greg Abbott has ordered the Texas State Guard to monitor federal military movements. http://npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2015/05/02/403865824/texas-governor-deploys-state-guard-to-stave-off-Obama-takeover Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz has said that "he understands the concerns of Texans". So it could be an interesting situation where a whole bunch of good-old-boys, armed to the teeth with their guns and accompanied by the Texas State Guard are "monitoring" the federal military forces moving through their area. All that is needed is for someone to throw a few firecrackers into the area and then duck. The resulting deadly fireworks would be spectacular! God Bless America! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 It's 'martial' law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 It's 'martial' law But Texans should fear "Marshall" law even more as some kind of Keynesian socialist trap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) delete, not applicable I know there were issues of controlling the border. Edited May 10, 2015 by Shady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 From your link.Correction May 3, 2015 An earlier version of this story indicated that Gov. Greg Abbott had deployed the National Guard in Texas, when in fact it was the Texas State Guard. That doesn't make these Texans look any less paranoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted May 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Thank you for the corrections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 That doesn't make these Texans look any less paranoid. True, but there's a big difference between the national guard and the state guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 There are also issues of the federal government threatening to seize land in Texas which Texas says is illegal. I guess lawyers would have to sort that out though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Jon Stewart had a piece on this last week. -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 That doesn't make these Texans look any less paranoid. The State Guard fill a role no different then the Solicitor/Attorney General and RCMP/Provincial Police in our Provinces.......which will coordinate with the Federal Government prior to and during the use of our military on Canadian soil....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Gov. Abbott isn't talking about using the Texas National Guard to act as a liason. He used the word "monitor", and he is trying to walk the line between appeasing crazy constituents while not looking crazy himself. Tea Party-leaning politicians like Sen Ted Cruz and Rep Louie Gohmert have also had to pretend to take these kooks seriously. Senator Ted sent an official letter to the Pentagon regarding the exercise. He says while he himself has no distrust of the US military, he is asking because his constituents are concerned. He understands why they are concerned, because citizens find the current administration untrustworthy. Rep Gohmert says that Texans are scared because the administration clearly hates conservatives. Chuck Norris wants people to get worried. "“If you haven’t heard about Operation Jade Helm 15, you need to." -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 The State Guard fill a role no different then the Solicitor/Attorney General and RCMP/Provincial Police in our Provinces.......which will coordinate with the Federal Government prior to and during the use of our military on Canadian soil....... The Natioanl Guard legally would fall under Obama's control by executive order whereas the State Guard don't. I'm sure that plays a role since no self respecting tin foil hat wearing Texan ain't gonna let that African born Muslim issue executive orders to their National Guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 The Natioanl Guard legally would fall under Obama's control by executive order whereas the State Guard don't. I'm sure that plays a role since no self respecting tin foil hat wearing Texan ain't gonna let that African born Muslim issue executive orders to their National Guard. Or in the real World, the State Guard has an established working relationship with various Federal, State and County agencies........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Conditioning to see full combat ready soldiers patrolling the streets of the USA. Which seems to go against some constitutional articles. What happens when the military is used for police services within the USA? The operation in question seems to be the Jade Helm exercises. http://abcnews.go.com/US/jade-helm-15-facts-training-exercise-causing-jitters/story?id=30915367But according to this information, those exercises have not started yet. So why are we getting reports of that kind of training going on right now? Someone forgot to inform the public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Gov. Abbott isn't talking about using the Texas National Guard to act as a liason. He used the word "monitor", and he is trying to walk the line between appeasing crazy constituents while not looking crazy himself. What is the difference, in your mind, between "liaison" and "monitor"? Likewise, as Governor, its his responsibility to uphold his constituents rights, rights of not only the tin-foil hat types, but namely ranchers and land owners in the various counties (namely Bastrop county), that were both insulted by the lack of consultation in the months prior and still have concerns (and in some cases pending litigation) over the piss poor Federal response to the 2011 Texas forest fires (the largest in recorded State history)......... Senator Ted sent an official letter to the Pentagon regarding the exercise. He says while he himself has no distrust of the US military, he is asking because his constituents are concerned. He understands why they are concerned, because citizens find the current administration untrustworthy. Rep Gohmert says that Texans are scared because the administration clearly hates conservatives. Chuck Norris wants people to get worried. "“If you haven’t heard about Operation Jade Helm 15, you need to." And citizens have a right to be concerned and angered over the lack of consultation over a large exercise, to be conducted at the height of forest fire season in Texas, in communities devastated several years ago by forest fires......... The US Government has afforded, since the mid 1970s, the various counties in the Tidewater region of North Carolina/Virginia consultation and direct paid involvement with annual exercises. Likewise, the US Government had no issue with community involvement in West Germany for annual NATO exercises, so much so, Uncle Sam paid German farmers above the market rate for destroyed crops.......US Forces in Japan don't even blink without the locals blessings........ So yeah, probably not an invasion by the One World Government, but inconsiderate to the locals to say the least........one thing is for sure, within the exercise, the parts conducted in Texas were to simulate hostile interaction with locals overseas.........they've nailed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Derek2.0 thinks the opposition is all about forest fires! It's not anti-Obama wingnuts at all... When the wing-nutty Governor of Texas says he's "monitoring the activities to ensure Texan constitutional rights are upheld", he isn't just pandering to his large base of wing-nut support.... he's actually concerned about forest fires! OK Derek2.0... it's all about the forest fires.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Derek2.0 thinks the opposition is all about forest fires! It's not anti-Obama wingnuts at all... When the wing-nutty Governor of Texas says he's "monitoring the activities to ensure Texan constitutional rights are upheld", he isn't just pandering to his large base of wing-nut support.... he's actually concerned about forest fires! OK Derek2.0... it's all about the forest fires.... I never said there weren't nutbars, the nutbars are whats drawing media attention.......Likewise, the media reporting of Gov. Abbotts issuance of the State Guard, which most confuse with the Texas National Guard, which paints a picture of the Governor deploying a military force to meet the Federal Government...........which the State Guard isn't, with the State Guard being the Texan equivalent to EMBC, which coordinates Federal and Provincial responses and exercises in British Columbia.....the State Guard does the like in Texas between the State and US Government. You can role your eyes all you want, but the subject of the OP, Bastrop county, bore the brunt of the '11 fires which saw the destruction of over 1600 homes within the county........I can sympathize with those locals concerned with military exercises being conducted within their community during the driest months of the Summer.........pyrotechnics, steel core ammo, tracers, hot exhaust from vehicles etc don't go well with dry shrub land.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 The military plans some exercises in parts of its own country. Locals read this as a coming coup accompanied by Marshall law and the local leader puts his troops on notice to monitor the federal forces. Some third world country? No Some Middle East somethingstan? No It is the proud State of Texas of the (kind of) United States of America! Wait a minute... I thought you said it WASN'T a third world country! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 You can role your eyes all you want, but the subject of the OP, Bastrop county, bore the brunt of the '11 fires which saw the destruction of over 1600 homes within the county........I can sympathize with those locals concerned with military exercises being conducted within their community during the driest months of the Summer.........pyrotechnics, steel core ammo, tracers, hot exhaust from vehicles etc don't go well with dry shrub land.... Yeah... except that's not what they seem to be concerned about. They seem to be concerned about the federal government invading their state and declaring martial law because... they're conservative (actually they're lousy conservatives), and the president is, let's face it, a communist darky from another country who probably hates good Christians (even though they're not good Christians). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Yeah... except that's not what they seem to be concerned about. They seem to be concerned about the federal government invading their state and declaring martial law because... they're conservative (actually they're lousy conservatives), and the president is, let's face it, a communist darky from another country who probably hates good Christians (even though they're not good Christians). Who's "they"? The handful of nutters in Bastrop, that during the Town Hall with the US Army, continued the tin-hat crap.....and in turn, were splashed across the media and late night as typical of those concerned or opposed to the exercise.........but of course, the MSM wouldn't have reported the more (sane) mundane questions asked by the locals, like: "will the Feds repair any damage to county roads and property??" "Why is the money being spent on this exercise, the same time the Texas Guard is facing budget cuts and losing resources for operations along the Southern Border"? "Will the exercises result in road closures or other effects on local day to day business"? "Is the Pentagon going to replace the Blackhawks and Chinook helicopters that its withdrawn for the Texas Guard units that support the Texas A&M Forest Service in fighting wildfires locally?" "Will there be live fire exercise in the county and what is the military doing to mitigate wildfires caused by them?" etc.....etc... All questions asked in the 2 hour Town Hall meeting (and can be heard in the video) and were reported on by local (Austin) media....... As to your inane suggestion of racial overtones (coming from you no doubt), you realize this is the same conservative, christian Texas that has elected an openly gay mayor of Houston and a Hispanic female Sheriff in Dallas county? To say nothing of countless minority mayors, State and Federal representatives.......oh and the President that signed the US Civil Rights Act.......a Texan.....Likewise, which President had the most racially diverse administration throughout the history of the United States? The guy before Obama.......also a Texan. The allegations of a bigoted Texas is getting old, they banned the Klan before most of the progressive midwest States (like Indiana etc) and the Rangers shot hooded members on site...........FFS, the Yellow Rose of Texas is about a black slave girl and Bob Willis and his Texas Playboys performed with black artists when Bing Crosby was still dressing in blackface...........and Emmitt Smith is loved like a second black Jesus. Texans have many reasons to dislike Obama, and his skin color is far down the list.... -------- A better question, why doesn't the US Government conduct military exercises in communities like West Baltimore? Chicago? Oakland and Detroit? South Central?....or better yet, along the US/Mexican border? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Bob WILLS. How dare you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Bob WILLS. How dare you. I can't believe I missed that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleguy1 Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Paranoia runs deep. What is wrong with Texas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Who's "they"? The handful of nutters in Bastrop, Was it only a handful of nutters who provoked the governor of Texas to declare the State Guard would be monitoring the feds to make sure they respected constitutional rights and protections? The allegations of a bigoted Texas is getting old, Tough. It's a bigoted, backward, ignorant land of religious wackos, rednecks and hicks. The irony is most of them don't know any more about Christianity than your average illiterate Yemeni farm boy does about Islam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairieboy43 Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Sounds like any Canadian. Was it only a handful of nutters who provoked the governor of Texas to declare the State Guard would be monitoring the feds to make sure they respected constitutional rights and protections?Tough. It's a bigoted, backward, ignorant land of religious wackos, rednecks and hicks. The irony is most of them don't know any more about Christianity than your average illiterate Yemeni farm boy does about Islam. Better get your $$$$ out of the bank soon. Bank Run!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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