Big Guy Posted August 11, 2015 Report Posted August 11, 2015 Just in case anybody thought that Putin and/or Russia has changed any approach to Ukraine; http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/ukraine-rebels-mariupol-150810125723940.html Ukraine has been partitioned for the near future into Russia and Ukrainian speaking areas. Those silly sanctions which are only hurting those nations applying them are doing no good. Time for Canada to accept the reality of the new boundaries of Ukraine and get on with increasing trade with Russia. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
blueblood Posted August 11, 2015 Report Posted August 11, 2015 Just in case anybody thought that Putin and/or Russia has changed any approach to Ukraine; http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/ukraine-rebels-mariupol-150810125723940.html Ukraine has been partitioned for the near future into Russia and Ukrainian speaking areas. Those silly sanctions which are only hurting those nations applying them are doing no good. Time for Canada to accept the reality of the new boundaries of Ukraine and get on with increasing trade with Russia. How about no. Screwing over the russian economy has already worked. See the USSR anymore? The west has folded one regime from that backwater, whats a second? Plus they didnt have to use soldiers! Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Big Guy Posted October 2, 2015 Report Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) Eighteen months ago, the Ukrainians overthrew a pro-Russian president. The reason the pro-Russian president had been elected was because of a large number of Russian speaking "Ukrainians" in the East and South wanted to mainatin ties with Russia. Those Ukrainians in the North did not and tossed out the elected president. The folks in the East and South rebelled. Putin was quite ready to assist them. He quickly annexed the Crimea which is Russian speaking (and a major Russian port) and the rebels then took over Donesk and Luhansk - both Russian speaking oblasts. The fighting has basically stopped with a stalemate in place - Ukrainian troops unable to move the Russian supplied rebels and the rebels not wanting to expand into Ukrainian speaking areas. I believe that it is time the West accepted that this will not change. With Ukraine in that stalemate, joining NATO isn't going to happen. Ukraine is keeping up payments to Russia for gas (and still owes $billions) and requires Russia as a trading partner. This war is over. What we see is what we get for the near future. World (and American and Russian) interest has moved to Syria, Iraq and Iran. Kiev will lick its wounds and try to get its economy back on track. Donesk and Luhansk will have a referendum in the near future to join Russia. Russia will then accept Crimea, Donsek and Luhansk as new members provinces of Russia. There is nothing more to see here. Edited October 2, 2015 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Big Guy Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 Canadian economic sanctions on Russia have really done a number on Putin: http://news.yahoo.com/russia-builds-massive-arctic-military-205936509.html It might be time to start talking to this guy rather than cutting off our beef exports. You think if we ignore him and draw the line if he is building military bases in North Bay that perhaps he will just go away? I think not. Maybe it is time for Trudeau to sit down with this guy and find out what his plans are - and what he wants for Russia. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
overthere Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 what he wants for Russia.is this a serious question? Is there any mystery at all about what he wants for Russia? Ask Angela Merkel how an attempt at calm talk with Putin went, more than once. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Big Guy Posted October 24, 2015 Report Posted October 24, 2015 is this a serious question? Is there any mystery at all about what he wants for Russia? Ask Angela Merkel how an attempt at calm talk with Putin went, more than once. You appear to know. What do you think that Putin wants for Russia? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Big Guy Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) In the Crimea, those 97% of the population who are Russian speaking are obviously content to be separated from Ukraine. Those other oblasts who are predominantly Russian speaking also appear pleased to be separated from Kiev. The situation there seems to be a done deal. I do not see anyone in those separated oblasts wanting to go back with Ukraine. Russia has also become the major player in the Middle East. The Russian air support of Hezbollah, Lebanese and Shia militias are winning Syria back to Assad. The Russia, Lebanon, Iran association is winning their war. Meanwhile the coalition is trying to keep ISIS from expanding. Canada has finally realized that their "me too USA" foreign policy which created those silly sanctions against Iran and Russia did not work and our new government has decided that we should have our own foreign policy. Great !!!!!!!! Canada has dropped sanctions against Iran, is preparing to open our embassy in Tehran, drop those silly sanctions against Russia and open up a new era of dialogue with Russia. ABOUT TIME!!! Sanity has returned to the Canadian foreign policy think tank! Edited January 27, 2016 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Hoser360 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 In the Crimea, those 97% of the population who are Russian speaking are obviously content to be separated from Ukraine. Those other oblasts who are predominantly Russian speaking also appear pleased to be separated from Kiev. The situation there seems to be a done deal. I do not see anyone in those separated oblasts wanting to go back with Ukraine. Russia has also become the major player in the Middle East. The Russian air support of Hezbollah, Lebanese and Shia militias are winning Syria back to Assad. The Russia, Lebanon, Iran association is winning their war. Meanwhile the coalition is trying to keep ISIS from expanding. Canada has finally realized that their "me too USA" foreign policy which created those silly sanctions against Iran and Russia did not work and our new government has decided that we should have our own foreign policy. Great !!!!!!!! Canada has dropped sanctions against Iran, is preparing to open our embassy in Tehran, drop those silly sanctions against Russia and open up a new era of dialogue with Russia. ABOUT TIME!!! Sanity has returned to the Canadian foreign policy think tank! I'm with you all the way there. I think it would be better for everyone to have a more logical and mature relation with other countries, even when we might disagree with them. Sadly I think that most Canadians are not educated enough to even begin to understand the issues like the nuclear 5+1 deal, or why Russia would assume administration of Crimea. Quote
The_Squid Posted February 14, 2016 Report Posted February 14, 2016 ...why Russia would assume administration of Crimea. Canadians know WHY.... it's the HOW... Russia doesn't have the right to invade a sovereign country and take a chunk of it for themselves by force. If Quebec wanted to join France, would it be OK for France to invade Canada and take it militarily? Russia continues to attack the nation of Ukraine. Canada, and the world, should increase sanctions on Russia. Quote
Hoser360 Posted February 14, 2016 Report Posted February 14, 2016 Russia doesn't have the right to invade a sovereign country and take a chunk of it for themselves by force.To my understanding Russia didn't fire a shot when they assumed the administration of Crimea and also my understanding that the people of Crimea are ethnic Russian's and are currently quite happy. The sanctions placed on Russia serve only the US and by proxy are helping to create a stronger economic Russia, 'what doesn't kill you makes you stronger' sort of speak. If I was Russia I would have done the exact same thing given not only that Russia has a large naval base in Crimea, but they are slowly being encircled by NATO expansion. Quote
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