BubberMiley Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Pot use permanently lowers IQ by an average of 8 points. http://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/ When used by adolescents. Adolescents currently have an easier time getting pot than adults, as you state yourself. Regulation would help to curtail that. It wouldn't mean they would never be able to buy pot again, but it would certainly throw a wrench in the current black market network. Again, why do you want to maintain the black market status quo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 When used by adolescents. Adolescents currently have an easier time getting pot than adults, as you state yourself. Regulation would help to curtail that. It wouldn't mean they would never be able to buy pot again, but it would certainly throw a wrench in the current black market network. Again, why do you want to maintain the black market status quo? I think legalization is only a matter of time but I really wonder if it will have any effect on adolescent use. If you have a minimum age, there will be a black market supplying under age customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 When used by adolescents. No, it's just even worse for adolescents. It's time to stop the science denying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Are you kidding, many high school students just buy it at school. Im not much of a pot user but I know exactly where to get. No I'm not kidding. If you asked me, or most people I know to go get pot somewhere. They would have absolutely no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 No I'm not kidding. If you asked me, or most people I know to go get pot somewhere. They would have absolutely no idea. Well thats probably because you have never gone looking for it. Unless you live on the moon there is probably some right around the corner. Ask a high school kid where he gets his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Well thats probably because you have never gone looking for it. Unless you live on the moon there is probably some right around the corner. Ask a high school kid where he gets his. Yes, I'm going to go ask a highschool kid where he/she gets pot. Not to much of a sterotype there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Weed makes people sodomize with their eyes... ?!? Love how everything somehow gets back to anal-sex with these people, but on a serious, I'm so going to use that line. Baby, quit sodomizing me with your eyes, go to bed. You're high. Hahaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Yes, I'm going to go ask a highschool kid where he/she gets pot. Not to much of a sterotype there. No stereotype there, just a fact.Maybe if we had legal outlets like we do for booze it would disappear from the schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 I think legalization is only a matter of time but I really wonder if it will have any effect on adolescent use. If you have a minimum age, there will be a black market supplying under age customers. Theres already a black market supplying underage customers. As for the effect on adolescent use, the best case study we have shows there would be a very slight increase. The reality is that despite the conventional wisdom, prohibition does not really result in less use. For most drugs it results in more. As for legalizing being only a matter of time? People with any kind of common sense can tell the drug war isnt working... so I doubt it will ever end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 No stereotype there, just a fact.Maybe if we had legal outlets like we do for booze it would disappear from the schools. Oh I'm sure students would stop smoking it at school. Cause there's no alcohol at schools anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Some of you need to smoke a joint and chill the f out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Theres already a black market supplying underage customers. As for the effect on adolescent use, the best case study we have shows there would be a very slight increase. The reality is that despite the conventional wisdom, prohibition does not really result in less use. For most drugs it results in more. As for legalizing being only a matter of time? People with any kind of common sense can tell the drug war isnt working... so I doubt it will ever end. My point is, making adolescent use as a part of the argument for legalization is a red herring. Your best case study bears that out. Unless you are proposing unrestricted use at any age, there will be a black market to supply those who are under age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Oh I'm sure students would stop smoking it at school. Cause there's no alcohol at schools anymore. Now you're just being obtuse. Since when can you easily buy a case of beer in a high school? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 I wonder about the black market thing. I may be out of the loop on this but in my town I dont seem to see or hear a lot of evidence of people getting booze for minors. Where I grew up drinking age was 21 and I recall in my later teen years we could usually find an older friend to get us some brew for a weekend bash, but it seems to me these days thats just not done so much. I guess there will always be black markets as long as people have money to spend but hopefully the trend may just become people telling the youngsters to just wait until you are old enough to get your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Now you're just being obtuse. Since when can you easily buy a case of beer in a high school? Only because it is a lot harder to make and conceal a case of beer or a bottle of vodka than a few grams of pot. That's why legalization will have little or no effect on reducing adolescent use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 I wonder about the black market thing. I may be out of the loop on this but in my town I dont seem to see or hear a lot of evidence of people getting booze for minors. .Look at the parents. I was astounded to find out how many 'sane' parents in my circle who said they bought it for their u/age kids to take to a party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 I wonder about the black market thing. I may be out of the loop on this but in my town I dont seem to see or hear a lot of evidence of people getting booze for minors. Where I grew up drinking age was 21 and I recall in my later teen years we could usually find an older friend to get us some brew for a weekend bash, but it seems to me these days thats just not done so much. I guess there will always be black markets as long as people have money to spend but hopefully the trend may just become people telling the youngsters to just wait until you are old enough to get your own. Ya but why buy the stuff in a liquor store to supply minors when you can grow it yourself and take 100% of the proceeds. No pesky taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Look at the parents. I was astounded to find out how many 'sane' parents in my circle who said they bought it for their u/age kids to take to a party. Interesting. A I say I am out of that loop. I know back in my day there was no way anybody in my family was going to provide me, so we used to rely on somebodys older brother or friend and head off to a lake somewhere and light a campfire. Wouldnt dare go home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Ya but why buy the stuff in a liquor store to supply minors when you can grow it yourself and take 100% of the proceeds. No pesky taxes. I can certainly see that point, but I also wonder if a lot of people wouldnt just say, ah hell Ill just go buy some at the gov. store and not have to worry about cops. I guess it all comes down to price point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Only because it is a lot harder to make and conceal a case of beer or a bottle of vodka than a few grams of pot. That's why legalization will have little or no effect on reducing adolescent use.And that's why we have to turn millions of adults into criminals. Now I get it. So why aren't we doing the same things with regards to booze again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) And that's why we have to turn millions of adults into criminals. Now I get it. So why aren't we doing the same things with regards to booze again? I was just responding to some else who brought up legalization and adolescent use. Adolescents will get booze or pot regardless but pot is much easier than booze, to produce and sell illegally.Whether you agree with the law or not, those adults chose to break it, no one forced them, so no one "turned them into criminals". Edited February 12, 2015 by Wilber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Let me rephrase that, millions of Canadian adults are expected to forgo an indulgence that is demonstrably less harmful relative to others, for the sake of trying to prevent a minuscule increase in the number of kids from indulging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Let me rephrase that, millions of Canadian adults are expected to forgo an indulgence that is demonstrably less harmful relative to others, for the sake of trying to prevent a minuscule increase in the number of kids from indulging. I just said that whether it's legalized or not won't stop kids from indulging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Interesting. A I say I am out of that loop. I know back in my day there was no way anybody in my family was going to provide me, so we used to rely on somebodys older brother or friend and head off to a lake somewhere and light a campfire. Wouldnt dare go home.Oh the older brother/sister thing still ...not sure but still probably the main access to booze , if not the parents own liquor cabinet.NOw the parents (some of 'em) buy it for their kids so they arent the squares without at a party (wtf?) There was no way I was going to steal...er I mean sneak (borrow?) booze from my folks, too worried Dad would lop my head off. I went home.....long after they were sleeping. Being the youngest of four brothers, my parents were likely "ah screw it, too old to care anymore. Just gonna go to bed" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Oh the older brother/sister thing still ...not sure but still probably the main access to booze , if not the parents own liquor cabinet.NOw the parents (some of 'em) buy it for their kids so they arent the squares without at a party (wtf?) There was no way I was going to steal...er I mean sneak (borrow?) booze from my folks, too worried Dad would lop my head off. I went home.....long after they were sleeping. Being the youngest of four brothers, my parents were likely "ah screw it, too old to care anymore. Just gonna go to bed" I did once either sneak or steal, it certainly wasnt a borrow, a slug of dandelion wine my grandfather used to make and let sit to age in a big pantry in the house. All the sediment from the bottom came shooting up, there was dandelion wine shooting out my nose, I could barely suck a breath, not a pretty sight. But I learned some kind of a lesson that day. (I think) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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