Judgement day for Del Mastro

[BubberMiley]

And when did judges become god?

No kidding. They should know the CPC is above their stinking laws.

[Topaz]

In 2006. three Tories were guilty of over spending remember... former party Mike Donison, Sen. Irving Gerstein, ( at pro at this now) Sen. Doug Findley, they all paid 50,000 to get out of jail, for being guilty of the "in and out" scheme. Those two senators should have been tossed out of government and Sen. Gerstein is also involved the Duffy affair.

[PIK]

I will believe an independent judiciary that looked at the evidence and came to a conclusion of guilty beyond a reasonable doubt before I believe Del Mastro pronouncing his own innocence after the evidence was heard and is clear that he cheated in an election.

I think stealing elections and stealing money should both be dealt with. We will get to the stealing money part when Duffy goes to trial...

What money was stolen besides what duffy did?

[Big Guy]

I watched Deans speech and his interview on CTV where he explained his decided to quit before a vote on his suspension. This was the worst kind of political BS that I have seen in a while. He quit for the Party, for his constituents, for the honor of parliament and more and more BS.

He quit because he knew there were enough votes to oust him and his pension would then become a topic. By quitting he guaranteed that he would stay eligible for his rich pension.

What an load of absolute crap!

[Derek 2.0]

He quit because he knew there were enough votes to oust him and his pension would then become a topic. By quitting he guaranteed that he would stay eligible for his rich pension.

What an load of absolute crap!

You think it a load of crap that he resigned after he broke the rules by donating too much of his own money to his own campaign? Would you prefer a public tar and feathering? Maybe a lynching? What result were you pining for?

[Big Guy]

His attempt to explain his quitting as some kind of sacrifice to his constituents is a bunch of crap. It was to save his pension. As to your comments, they are beginning to gain an adversarial tone. I try not to reply to those kinds comments in the same tone since this usually leads to more aggression and a loss of intelligent dialogue. If you want responses from me to your comments then please keep that in mind.

[Derek 2.0]

His attempt to explain his quitting as some kind of sacrifice to his constituents is a bunch of crap. It was to save his pension. As to your comments, they are beginning to gain an adversarial tone. I try not to reply to those kinds comments in the same tone since this usually leads to more aggression and a loss of intelligent dialogue. If you want responses from me to your comments then please keep that in mind.

To clarify, your contention with his resigning is that he'll get a pension, not that he resigned?

[Big Guy]

He knew he was going to be suspended. Under those conditions his pension was in jeopardy. By resigning it was no longer in jeopardy.

Instead of leaving quietly he made up some kind of sob story about his constituents, responsibility to his people and other excuses that tried to make him look good.

I thought that to be disingenuous, a lie and a bunch of crap. If you disagree then good for you.

[Derek 2.0]

He knew he was going to be suspended. Under those conditions his pension was in jeopardy. By resigning it was no longer in jeopardy.

Instead of leaving quietly he made up some kind of sob story about his constituents, responsibility to his people and other excuses that tried to make him look good.

I thought that to be disingenuous, a lie and a bunch of crap. If you disagree then good for you.

Ok, but how can you claim to know his motivation for resigning was his pension? Perhaps he didn't desire putting himself and his family through a partisan Star Chamber when the outcome is clear..........I don't see how Del Mastro has come away looking good.....

[On Guard for Thee]

Ok, but how can you claim to know his motivation for resigning was his pension? Perhaps he didn't desire putting himself and his family through a partisan Star Chamber when the outcome is clear..........I don't see how Del Mastro has come away looking good.....

The clear outcome would have been loss of his pension. You don't have to be the sharpest knife in the drawer to figure this out.

[Derek 2.0]

The clear outcome would have been loss of his pension. You don't have to be the sharpest knife in the drawer to figure this out.

Explain how you've determined his motivation.........when he clearly stated:

“To my colleagues in the Conservative party, I told a number of you I would never put you in a position where you’d have to vote on my future......

......“Stay united. I will not divide you, I will not be the one that divides you. I believe too much in what you do and what we stand for.”

To add:

Del Mastro, whose wife gave birth to their first child — a girl — on Sunday, has said his lawyer has asked a judge to re-open his defence in order to introduce new evidence before sentencing, which is scheduled for Nov. 21.

So he clearly stated he didn't wish to further impact his political party, has welcomed his first child and will contend with his upcoming sentencing in the weeks ahead...........why would he want to stick around for further embarrassment to himself and his family?

[On Guard for Thee]

Explain how you've determined his motivation.........when he clearly stated:

To add:

So he clearly stated he didn't wish to further impact his political party, has welcomed his first child and will contend with his upcoming sentencing in the weeks ahead...........why would he want to stick around for further embarrassment to himself and his family?

Why would you? So you could receive your pension maybe? If you believe that little teary eyed story today I have some beach front in Nevada I want to show you.

[jacee]

So he ... will contend with his upcoming sentencing in the weeks ahead...........why would he want to stick around for further embarrassment to himself and his family?

Ya why would he embarass himself further when he's already compromised himself by offending the Judge in charge of his sentencing !

As for the judges verdict? "Thats her opinion".

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You can have your opinion. But so does the judge. And hers is the law.

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/christopher-dummitt-peterborough-after-del-mastro

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Edited November 8, 2014 by jacee

[SpankyMcFarland]

In fairness, every MP must be tempted to do this in the heat of battle. Not the worst of political crimes.

[SpankyMcFarland]

And I don't want to think what I'd be prepared to do or say to keep my pension.

[jacee]

And I don't want to think what I'd be prepared to do or say to keep my pension.

Then you'd be the kind of politician we don't want.

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[SpankyMcFarland]

Then you'd be the kind of politician we don't want.

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I think I can say without fear of contradiction that I too would make an appalling politician. I wouldn't vote for someone like me.

[jacee]

I think I can say without fear of contradiction that I too would make an appalling politician. I wouldn't vote for someone like me.

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