Sona Sentencing Hearing Underway

[Keepitsimple]

I hope this guy gets more than a slap on the wrist.......especially after his pathetic performances with a pliant CBC....what do you think his sentence should be given he could get up to 5 years in prison and a $5000 fine?

A series of Sona's colleagues testified that he spoke of engaging in dirty campaign tactics leading up to the election and weeks later freely admitted to his role in ordering the plot, and in fact bragged that he was the mastermind.

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It was Sona's "apparent arrogance and self-importance" that led to his downfall, Hearn said in delivering his verdict.

Link: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/sentencing-hearing-underway-michael-sona-convicted-robocalls-scandal-135613307.html

Edited October 17, 2014 by Keepitsimple

[cybercoma]

The absolute maximum is $5000 and/or 5 years in jail. With all of the mitigating factors I expect him to get next to nothing and in all likelihood no jail time.

[The_Squid]

Trying to rig elections should get the maximum. The CPC should also be held accountable and charged with the same crime, but unfortunately, they won't be.

[Keepitsimple]

The absolute maximum is $5000 and/or 5 years in jail. With all of the mitigating factors I expect him to get next to nothing and in all likelihood no jail time.

I fear you are probably right.......but I think the only mitigating factor is that he has no criminal record. Other than that, the guy has caused enough trouble to last 5 elections!

[guyser]

.......especially after his pathetic performances with a pliant CBC....

What happened here w the CBC?

[Bryan]

The NDP and LPC MPs who got nailed for their illegal robocalls only got a small fine. It'll be very interesting to see if justice is dealt in an equal manner or not.

[Big Guy]

I think his sentencing should depend on his cooperation with police. If he cooperates fully, leading the investigation into who else was involved then he should be treated as a first term offender.

If he refuses or gives answers that are questionable then he should be treated accordingly and have the book thrown at him.

[Keepitsimple]

What happened here w the CBC?

He interviewed for 20 minutes with Evan Solomon on Power & Politics (the clip is no longer active).....all the while saying he was toally innocent, a scapegoat, a victim......and all the while, Solomon is feeding softball questions. He portrayed himself as a victim and CBC encouraged that image to feed the idiotic conspiracy theory. In the end, he ended up being an arrogant mischief-maker who facilitated yet another faux-scandal - spearheaded by CBC's Terry MIleskiw. There's enough crap going on in Ottawa without making stuff up.

Edited October 17, 2014 by Keepitsimple

[Boges]

No! Sona was getting his directions directly from the PM!!!

[cybercoma]

Trying to rig elections should get the maximum. The CPC should also be held accountable and charged with the same crime, but unfortunately, they won't be.

Absolutely not. This is as bad as Conservatives with their mandatory minimums. There absolutely should be judicial discretion for the particular circumstances of an individual's case.

[On Guard for Thee]

The NDP and LPC MPs who got nailed for their illegal robocalls only got a small fine. It'll be very interesting to see if justice is dealt in an equal manner or not.

Of course they did. Check the huge differences in the actual facts of the cases. CPC robocalls actually sought to steal votes.

[overthere]

Of course they did. Check the huge differences in the actual facts of the cases. CPC robocalls actually sought to steal votes.

Careful now! That sort of talk about robocalls cost Pat Martin a lot of money and stature within his party.

[waldo]

Of course they did. Check the huge differences in the actual facts of the cases. CPC robocalls actually sought to steal votes.

Harper Conservative supporters like to draw false equivalencies.

[cybercoma]

Harper Conservative supporters like to draw false equivalencies.

That's how you move the centre to the right.

[Keepitsimple]

The Crown is seeking 18 months in prison.

[Topaz]

I'm not 100% sure if he did any thing wrong or if he did, other were involved. We will never hear from the manager , who took off to the Middle-East and refuse to talk. It's very possible to setup someone for the fall like Sona, maybe we will know sometime in the future. There was someone else who knew the a lot that worked in the PMO and was MP Pierre's girlfriend. Don't trust any of them.

[Keepitsimple]

I'm not 100% sure if he did any thing wrong or if he did, other were involved. We will never hear from the manager , who took off to the Middle-East and refuse to talk. It's very possible to setup someone for the fall like Sona, maybe we will know sometime in the future. There was someone else who knew the a lot that worked in the PMO and was MP Pierre's girlfriend. Don't trust any of them.

Including the judge - he's on Harper's Payroll.......and you're right not to trust all those witnesses under oath - they were paid off as well. You're a shrewd character Topaz......we'd all do well to pay a little more attention to you....nobody's going to pull the wool over your eyes!

[overthere]

There is a direct link between Sona, MIke Duffy and Senator Brazeau.

It involves the Zionists. I cannot say more and be safe.

[On Guard for Thee]

Including the judge - he's on Harper's Payroll.......and you're right not to trust all those witnesses under oath - they were paid off as well. You're a shrewd character Topaz......we'd all do well to pay a little more attention to you....nobody's going to pull the wool over your eyes!

Apparently not too hard to pull it over yours. You probably think Sona acted alone huh?

[Keepitsimple]

Apparently not too hard to pull it over yours. You probably think Sona acted alone huh?

Nope - I think there was another weenie who was a techno-geek and knew how to pull it off from a technical point of view. I think Sona probably dreamed up the concept and his little weenie friend said....ya, ya - I can do that.....and away they went.

[On Guard for Thee]

Nope - I think there was another weenie who was a techno-geek and knew how to pull it off from a technical point of view. I think Sona probably dreamed up the concept and his little weenie friend said....ya, ya - I can do that.....and away they went.

And what if the weenie was one of Harper's little weenie friends from the PMO? You know some weenie who had access to the CIMS system.

[Smallc]

And I'm sure then that you have proof of that accusation.

[On Guard for Thee]

And I'm sure then that you have proof of that accusation.

Do you have proof it isn't? If some "weenie" punk kid can access the CIMS system and farm it out through a robocall company and nobody knows about it? If that is true then perhaps these people shouldn't be in a position of authority.

[Keepitsimple]

Delete.....

Edited October 20, 2014 by Keepitsimple

[Keepitsimple]

Do you have proof it isn't? If some "weenie" punk kid can access the CIMS system and farm it out through a robocall company and nobody knows about it? If that is true then perhaps these people shouldn't be in a position of authority.

You're being willfully blind in ignoring the context of Guelph - a riding that the Conservatives had no chance of winning - as demonstrated by the landslide Liberal win. If the PMO wanted to try something underhanded, do you really think they'd be stupid enough to pick Guelph? Give yourself a good shake - and then smack yourself a couple of times.