bush_cheney2004 Posted March 20, 2015 Author Report Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) The CRTC has basically admitted that CanCon production was just chasing government subsidies no matter how crappy the programming is/was. Delivery was more important than the quality of programming. No wonder some of it sucks.... Edited March 20, 2015 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 20, 2015 Author Report Posted March 20, 2015 In "Let's Talk TV", the CRTC abandons decades of protectionist regulation designed to protect "Canadian culture". I wonder if this will impact the state broadcaster...CBC ? The CRTC has unveiled a dramatic overhaul of its old protectionist rules for television programming, including the relaxation of its long-standing rules that require TV broadcasters to carry a certain quota of Canadian-produced content. ...Geist said that some definitely won't like the changes. "We’ve got businesses and industries that have grown up around the protection that these Canadian rules have provided," he told CBC News. "The message from the CRTC today is that those walls are coming down." http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/crtc-eases-canadian-content-quotas-for-tv-1.2992132 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 In "Let's Talk TV", the CRTC abandons decades of protectionist regulation designed to protect "Canadian culture". I wonder if this will impact the state broadcaster...CBC ? The CRTC has unveiled a dramatic overhaul of its old protectionist rules for television programming, including the relaxation of its long-standing rules that require TV broadcasters to carry a certain quota of Canadian-produced content. ...Geist said that some definitely won't like the changes. "We’ve got businesses and industries that have grown up around the protection that these Canadian rules have provided," he told CBC News. "The message from the CRTC today is that those walls are coming down." http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/crtc-eases-canadian-content-quotas-for-tv-1.2992132 Canadians wouldnt let anything happen to CBC. Quote
overthere Posted March 23, 2015 Report Posted March 23, 2015 Canadians wouldnt let anything happen to CBC. They don't need to, CBC TV has been killing itself for decades. If Canadians actually gave a singular shit about CBC TV, they'd watch the network. But nobody does. Yet we continue to pump hundreds of millions into CBC TV ... because......? Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
On Guard for Thee Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 They don't need to, CBC TV has been killing itself for decades. If Canadians actually gave a singular shit about CBC TV, they'd watch the network. But nobody does. Yet we continue to pump hundreds of millions into CBC TV ... because......? I will admit I dont watch a lot of CBC shows, but then I dont waste a lot of time gaping at TV anyway. Just my personal choice. But I am an avid listener to CBC radio and I watch the TV news. It does tie the country together and god help us if we fall into the rut of having some sort of Fox news BS as a replacement. We dont want to be dumbed down, so we pay. Quote
eyeball Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 They don't need to, CBC TV has been killing itself for decades. If Canadians actually gave a singular shit about CBC TV, they'd watch the network. But nobody does. Yet we continue to pump hundreds of millions into CBC TV ... because......? I give a rather big shit myself, pretty much entirely about the news, public affairs and documentaries CBC produces. I could probably care less about the can-content entertainment stuff.I regard the CBC as being a half starved increasingly threatened public watchdog in need of more funding and the legal means to penetrate official secrecy to the extent the state invades our privacy. I have zero faith in any large corporate broadcaster ever fulfilling such a role. I also listen to the cbc radio when I'm anchored up out of range of anything else somewhere on the coast. Nothing's aver made me feel more Canadian than being huddled around a boat's oil stove or in the bunk listening to a staticky CBC broadcast drifting 30 miles offshore. It's probably a nostalgia thing. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
PrimeNumber Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 All I can say is who wants all the rest of this crap programming. All I need is CBC for Hockey Night In Canada saturday broadcasts, TSN 1 through 5, the regional sportsnet channels and the regional city tv channels and I'm set. I'd just use my little black box but the HD streams are never really up to par with cable box hd, not yet anyways. Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee
overthere Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 I give a rather big shit myself, pretty much entirely about the news, public affairs and documentaries CBC produces. I could probably care less about the can-content entertainment stuff. I regard the CBC as being a half starved increasingly threatened public watchdog in need of more funding and the legal means to penetrate official secrecy to the extent the state invades our privacy. I have zero faith in any large corporate broadcaster ever fulfilling such a role. I also listen to the cbc radio when I'm anchored up out of range of anything else somewhere on the coast. Nothing's aver made me feel more Canadian than being huddled around a boat's oil stove or in the bunk listening to a staticky CBC broadcast drifting 30 miles offshore. It's probably a nostalgia thing. CBC TV is at the bottom of every major market in Canada, so you are one of the very very few that actually watch it. And you think it has earned more funding, by bascially having a free hand/huge budget to develop domestic programs, yet failing to produce anything that Canadians watch? offering programming that nobody watches? I'd like to hear that explanation. I reckon what it needs is for the wee cluster of devotees like yourself to open your wallets and put your money directly where your mouth is, instead of insisting that the vast majority of Canadians fund your interests . Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
overthere Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 All I need is CBC for Hockey Night In Canada saturday broadcasts, wholly owned and operated by Rogers SportsNet, including what you see on CBC. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
PrimeNumber Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 wholly owned and operated by Rogers SportsNet, including what you see on CBC. Either way I still need it to watch the games. I could care less who provides them, if next year its much music that is supplying hockey broadcasts then I'll subscribe to them. I don't much care for cable or the companies that provide it. Its just my hd streams aren't as good of quality as what I can get over cable. No point in watching the game if I can't even see the puck. Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee
Mighty AC Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Either way I still need it to watch the games. I could care less who provides them, if next year its much music that is supplying hockey broadcasts then I'll subscribe to them. I don't much care for cable or the companies that provide it. Its just my hd streams aren't as good of quality as what I can get over cable. No point in watching the game if I can't even see the puck. CBC is available, for free, in HD over the air, in most areas via a $25 digital antenna. I have one but I use NHL Game Center to watch hockey. Use a VPN to buy the US, non-Rogers, version of Game Center with a European IP location and you save almost 50%. Now I can watch any game on TV, my PC, Phone, Tab, etc. Edited March 24, 2015 by Mighty AC Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
PrimeNumber Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 CBC is available, for free, in HD over the air, in most areas via a $25 digital antenna. I have one but I use NHL Game Center to watch hockey. Use a VPN to buy the US, non-Rogers, version of Game Center with a European IP location and you save almost 50%. Now I can watch any game on TV, my PC, Phone, Tab, etc. That's genius, I use a vpn from time to time to access American netflix. I used ps3 back when the NHL had a shortened season, gamecenter was on sale so I tried it out but was extremely dissapointed by the blackouts. Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee
Mighty AC Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) That's genius, I use a vpn from time to time to access American netflix. I used ps3 back when the NHL had a shortened season, gamecenter was on sale so I tried it out but was extremely dissapointed by the blackouts. It is setup for out of market games, I live in Southern Ontario and rarely watch the Leafs so it works out for me. However, I just change my IP locale if a blackout is a problem. Edited March 24, 2015 by Mighty AC Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
PrimeNumber Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 It is setup for out of market games, I live in Southern Ontario and rarely watch the Leafs so it works out for me. However, I just change my IP locale if a blackout is a problem. I spend a lot of time in Saskatchewan during winter months for work and it would blackout all but 26 Jets games, which is ridiculous. Basically any Jets games that were broadcast on saturday Hockey Night in Canada were view able, all other monday-thursday and sunday Jets games were blacked out. But when I was back in Richmond, BC there was never a blackout, even for Canucks home games. It really is peculiar. It's not worth it to get gamecenter now but I will be doing this for next season for sure. Even if I can just make it think I'm back in Richmond all the time while I'm in Sask I'd be happy. $99 for a whole season versus $60/month for hd cable is well worth it. Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee
eyeball Posted March 25, 2015 Report Posted March 25, 2015 CBC TV is at the bottom of every major market in Canada, so you are one of the very very few that actually watch it. I can see where this is likely in the case of CBC Canadian content entertainment, but note where I wrote that off and what I focused on instead - the stuff you ignored in other words. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
overthere Posted March 26, 2015 Report Posted March 26, 2015 I can see where this is likely in the case of CBC Canadian content entertainment, but note where I wrote that off and what I focused on instead - the stuff you ignored in other words. The statistics are clear: almost nobody watches the TV network in any English language market. You can differentiate between content as you wish, but very few Canadians watch CBC TV: period. Write that off. No wait, just pay for it. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
eyeball Posted March 26, 2015 Report Posted March 26, 2015 If there's any reason to believe most Canadians don't get their news from CBC I'd like to see it. I've looked and I can't. As I said, I could care less about Can-con entertainment or sports - aside from the odd Olympic game I haven't watched a hockey game in 25 years or more. News, public affairs and documentaries however are in such a completely different class that they should be regarded as being almost separate from the rest of what the CBC does or produces. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
guyser Posted March 26, 2015 Report Posted March 26, 2015 If there's any reason to believe most Canadians don't get their news from CBC I'd like to see it.Numeris.ca has the rankings. CTV out performs CBC in the news rating dept. Perhaps you meant combined TV and Radio for news, in which case I cannot help you but believe you may be right. Quote
Bryan Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 http://assets.numeris.ca/Downloads/March%209%20-%20March%2015,%202015%20(National).pdf Not a single CBC broadcast of any kind, including news, was even in the top 30 in the most recent ratings (including PVR numbers). CTV News, on the other hand, held several spots in that top 30. The people who ever watch anything on CBC television are a very small minority. They are in the thousands, not millions. People who do get their news from CBC are mostly getting it from the website and the radio. I've said it before, and I still believe it to be true: CBC should be reduced to just the website and podcasts of their radio shows. The actual broadcasting should be completely shut down. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 http://assets.numeris.ca/Downloads/March%209%20-%20March%2015,%202015%20(National).pdf Not a single CBC broadcast of any kind, including news, was even in the top 30 in the most recent ratings (including PVR numbers). CTV News, on the other hand, held several spots in that top 30. The people who ever watch anything on CBC television are a very small minority. They are in the thousands, not millions. People who do get their news from CBC are mostly getting it from the website and the radio. I've said it before, and I still believe it to be true: CBC should be reduced to just the website and podcasts of their radio shows. The actual broadcasting should be completely shut down. Harper of course is trying to do just that, and more. Which is why we have to get him out of office lest we become dolts following the type of garbage Fox etc. puts out. Quote
Bryan Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 Harper of course is trying to do just that, and more. I wish that were true. Unfortunately it's not. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 I wish that were true. Unfortunately it's not. CBC just announced another round of job gone due to cuts from the current government. And so let me get this straight, you actually want to be spoon fed the king of BS Fox etc. have to offer... Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Report Posted March 27, 2015 Canada's state broadcaster cuts more jobs...more evidence that the unhealthy CBC and discriminatory CRTC policies are crumbling into dust. Meanwhile, American television programming continues to rule audience share, including Fox. http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/cbc-sheds-more-than-140-jobs-in-local-news-1.3010204 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted March 27, 2015 Report Posted March 27, 2015 Canada's state broadcaster cuts more jobs...more evidence that the unhealthy CBC and discriminatory CRTC policies are crumbling into dust. Meanwhile, American television programming continues to rule audience share, including Fox. http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/cbc-sheds-more-than-140-jobs-in-local-news-1.3010204 It is certainly quite clear you like to be spoon fed by Fox. We tune in once in awhile to check just how ridiculous it has become of late. Always good for a laugh. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Report Posted March 27, 2015 Chretien's Liberals cut the CBC's state broadcasting budget a lot more than Harper. Still, a high profile sex offender (alleged) and God-awful CanCon programming managed to hang on. Now the "news" is feeling the burn. Melting....melting...... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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