9 Year Old Shooting Uzi

[cybercoma]

Training 9 year olds on how to use uzis. Not a cultural issue at all.

[On Guard for Thee]

Training 9 year olds on how to use uzis. Not a cultural issue at all.

Well except to be fair we should also provide training on AK 47's, lest we be seen to be taking sides in the ME conflict.

[bush_cheney2004]

Training 9 year olds on how to use uzis. Not a cultural issue at all.

Surely it is because she lives in a "disgusting backwards uncivilized society".

[On Guard for Thee]

Surely it is because she lives in a "disgusting backwards uncivilized society".

Having our doubts are we?

[Hal 9000]

A "workplace safety issue"? Now that is wierd. So I guess you might equate this with let's say the 9 year old was working as a mechanic in a garage and got crushed by a car settling down off the hoist.

How about a river rafting company that that doesn't use lifejackets, a shark diving company that uses inadequate cages, an amusement ride that is not fastened with proper bolts etc etc.

In this situation, had a tether been on the gun (and I believe that they should for children), the day would've been a lot of fun instead of a horrible disaster.

[eyeball]

I taught my children at a youngish age (~7-9 years of age) and have had no negative issues with character development, and would opine that teaching them at such an age ingrained a measure of responsibility and respect, coupled with the demystifying of firearms.

I get the responsibility and respect part but demystifying? What' is it that's so mysterious about guns?

[Bob Macadoo]

How about a river rafting company that that doesn't use lifejackets, a shark diving company that uses inadequate cages, an amusement ride that is not fastened with proper bolts etc etc.

In this situation, had a tether been on the gun (and I believe that they should for children), the day would've been a lot of fun instead of a horrible disaster.

You'd take your daughter shark diving too? You're pretty progressive.

[Derek 2.0]

In this situation, had a tether been on the gun (and I believe that they should for children), the day would've been a lot of fun instead of a horrible disaster.

I don‘t think an effective tether is feasible, especially on a ~$10K firearm………But a .22lr conversion kit would be prudent for inexperienced shooters in such a setting.

[On Guard for Thee]

How about a river rafting company that that doesn't use lifejackets, a shark diving company that uses inadequate cages, an amusement ride that is not fastened with proper bolts etc etc.

In this situation, had a tether been on the gun (and I believe that they should for children), the day would've been a lot of fun instead of a horrible disaster.

You are missing the point. Why would a 9 year old want, or in any way need, to be competent with a submachine gun? Are we going to start enlisting them in the army some time soon? Or is this just in case she needs to go drop a moose to survive?

[Hal 9000]

You'd take your daughter shark diving too? You're pretty progressive.

In a heartbeat!

[bush_cheney2004]

These same people would applaud a 9 year old Gazan fighting "Israeli oppression" with an AK-47.

[Derek 2.0]

I get the responsibility and respect part but demystifying? What' is it that's so mysterious about guns?

I was taught, and in turn my children, that a firearm, skillsaw and car etc could be dangerous to oneself or others if the operator was irresponsible…… I feel a child taught to avoid these items will either develop an irrational fear or gain a potentially dangerous curiosity of the object……..On the inverse, firsthand knowledge diminishes any fears or curiosity.

[Bob Macadoo]

These same people would applaud a 9 year old Gazan fighting "Israeli oppression" with an AK-47.

Wow. That's a sarcastic floater you left in the bowl......better flush before stink up the joint.....

[Bob Macadoo]

I was taught, and in turn my children, that a firearm, skillsaw and car etc could be dangerous to oneself or others if the operator was irresponsible…… I feel a child taught to avoid these items will either develop an irrational fear or gain a potentially dangerous curiosity of the object……..On the inverse, firsthand knowledge diminishes any fears or curiosity.

So she was drinking a glass of wine early too?

[Hal 9000]

You are missing the point. Why would a 9 year old want, or in any way need, to be competent with a submachine gun? Are we going to start enlisting them in the army some time soon? Or is this just in case she needs to go drop a moose to survive?

I'm not missing any point. Look, I'm not a gun nut, but the reality is; shooting guns is a recreation - my kids and most kids love it. The issue is how do we make the business safer for those taking part.

And...I think you're wrong Derek. Guns are big business, I just dropped about 600$ at MGV. It wouldn't be an issue for them to clip on a safety tether for the young kids. In fact; I watched one adult dude who had the Instructor and a buddy pushing on his back to try and keep stable while he shot some ungodly huge weapon. I believe that regulations like that will come into effect on recreational (gun store, MGV types) shooting facilities.

[Derek 2.0]

So she was drinking a glass of wine early too?

I have no idea.......

[Derek 2.0]

And...I think you're wrong Derek. Guns are big business, I just dropped about 600$ at MGV. It wouldn't be an issue for them to clip on a safety tether for the young kids. In fact; I watched one adult dude who had the Instructor and a buddy pushing on his back to try and keep stable while he shot some ungodly huge weapon. I believe that regulations like that will come into effect on recreational (gun store, MGV types) shooting facilities.

There are only a finite number of Class III firearms within the United States....Installing permanent mods would detract from the value………..Whereas installing a rimfire kit wouldn’t detract from the value of the firearm (they're easy to install/remove), well also making the firearm more manageable and safer for new shooters.

[Hal 9000]

There are only a finite number of Class III firearms within the United States....Installing permanent mods would detract from the value………..Whereas installing a rimfire kit wouldn’t detract from the value of the firearm (they're easy to install/remove), well also making the firearm more manageable and safer for new shooters.

Who cares about the value? They're guns used by a business to make a quick buck - fired by thousands of different people each year. It's like saying a cab loses it's value by painting it yellow, who cares - it's still a cab and will never be the value of a car that was not a cab.

I'm not saying do this for personal weapons, just those used in those recreation shops.

BTW - A converted Uzi-.22 cal. would still have this guy dead.

[Derek 2.0]

Who cares about the value? They're guns used by a business to make a quick buck - fired by thousands of different people each year. It's like saying a cab loses it's value by painting it yellow, who cares - it's still a cab and will never be the value of a car that was not a cab.

The owners.........a business can purchase 2014 taxi and depreciate its value with use……..Nobody can purchase a new automatic firearm.

BTW - A converted Uzi-.22 cal. would still have this guy dead.

I doubt it........22lr wouldn't have anywhere near the same amount of recoil and muzzle rise.

[bush_cheney2004]

Hey...how timely is this...Justice Minister Peter MacKay supports firearms without compromise:

[Hal 9000]

The owners.........a business can purchase 2014 taxi and depreciate its value with use……..Nobody can purchase a new automatic firearm.

I doubt it........22lr wouldn't have anywhere near the same amount of recoil and muzzle rise.

No, not recoil - I agree, but getting shot in the head with a .22 is still almost always gonna be fatal.

Look, you seem to have it together gun wise and you're probably very safe, but I'm not talking about the general enthusiast, I'm more talking about the "carnival ranges" for lack of a better word. I don't know how often you've seen these places, but they're filled with partiers, bachelorettes, guys in flip flops that have had a few...and kids.

The lefties on here will always try to throw out the baby with the bathwater (unless its a drug issue), so before they stir up about getting rid of guns all together again - it would be prudent to put just a few regulations in place for these facilities - just my opinion.

[On Guard for Thee]

Wow. That's a sarcastic floater you left in the bowl......better flush before stink up the joint.....

Boy that does smell bad. But then we have come to expect nothing less.

[cybercoma]

Surely it is because she lives in a "disgusting backwards uncivilized society".

You said it. Fit right in with places like Congo, Sierra Leone, and Afghanistan with all their child soldiers over the years. They even have capital punishment in common too.

'Murica. Land of the free.

Edited August 27, 2014 by cybercoma

[bush_cheney2004]

You said it.

No...YOU said it...I am just mocking same.

[Derek 2.0]

No, not recoil - I agree, but getting shot in the head with a .22 is still almost always gonna be fatal.

Look, you seem to have it together gun wise and you're probably very safe, but I'm not talking about the general enthusiast, I'm more talking about the "carnival ranges" for lack of a better word. I don't know how often you've seen these places, but they're filled with partiers, bachelorettes, guys in flip flops that have had a few...and kids.

The lefties on here will always try to throw out the baby with the bathwater (unless its a drug issue), so before they stir up about getting rid of guns all together again - it would be prudent to put just a few regulations in place for these facilities - just my opinion.

I certainly understand what you are saying, but if in this case, the range had a .22lr conversion for their select fire firearms used by new shooters, there would be no concern with these rare type of accidents happening…….

An Uzi chambered in .22lr would have a felt recoil only slightly greater than a hairdryer………

As to the political “left”, your failing in this regard is thinking that giving them anything will suffice….don’t waste your time, and buy cheap & stack deep!!!