9 Year Old Shooting Uzi

[On Guard for Thee]

In the wacky world of US litigation, it wouldn't surprise me a bit. Wonder if the kid can sue her parents.

Well at least that would keep the proceeds "all in the family" Well of course except that which would end up in the lawyers pockets.

[bush_cheney2004]

Ya and this 9 year old kid is now saddled for the rest of her life knowing she killed someone because her dumb ass parents thought it would be cool te see her shoot an Uzi. Morons.

Add "morons" to the list for those who insist that she should be permanently scarred because of what was clearly an accident and poor safety procedures. Shooting fatalities caused by kids shooting firearms are not all that rare (hunting, unsecured firearms at home, gang banging, etc.).

Here is an identical Uzi scenario from 2008:

WESTFIELD, Mass. — An 8-year-old boy died after accidentally shooting himself in the head while firing an Uzi submachine gun under adult supervision at a gun fair.

The boy lost control of the weapon while firing it Sunday at the Machine Gun Shoot and Firearms Expo at the Westfield Sportsman’s Club, police Lt. Lawrence Vallierpratte said.

Police said the boy, Christopher Bizilj of Ashford, Conn., was with a certified instructor and called the death a “self-inflicted accidental shooting.”

Edited August 29, 2014 by bush_cheney2004

[On Guard for Thee]

Add "morons" to the list for those who insist that she should be permanently scarred because of what was clearly an accident and poor safety procedures. Shooting fatalities caused by kids shooting firearms are not all that rare (hunting, unsecured firearms at home, gang banging, etc.).

Here is an identical Uzi scenario from 2008:

WESTFIELD, Mass. — An 8-year-old boy died after accidentally shooting himself in the head while firing an Uzi submachine gun under adult supervision at a gun fair.

The boy lost control of the weapon while firing it Sunday at the Machine Gun Shoot and Firearms Expo at the Westfield Sportsman’s Club, police Lt. Lawrence Vallierpratte said.

Police said the boy, Christopher Bizilj of Ashford, Conn., was with a certified instructor and called the death a “self-inflicted accidental shooting.”

Only a "moron" would say she "should" be. The rest of us I think are concerned that she very well could be.

[BubberMiley]

Shooting fatalities caused by kids shooting firearms are not all that rare (hunting, unsecured firearms at home, gang banging, etc.).

Of course they aren't. It's the U.S. after all.

[Big Guy]

Truly. What kind of a shock and imprint will she be dealing with now? I can see lots of potential for troubling times ahead since she will have to continue to deal with these "morons" who put her in this spot. Sad.

What I saw from the last part of the video the UZI was recoiling up towards her left shoulder. The instructor was leaning over her left shoulder. From that sequence I would assume that there would be some instructor's body fluids that would end up on the girl.

Many young people have difficulty dealing with death and attending an open casket funeral - and that is with careful preparation by the parents. I would imagine the effect of just being responsible for the death of another individual can be traumatic - just ask all those battle hardened veterans who come back from action with PTSD.

I really cannot understand those who defend the idea that an 8 year old should be using live ammunition under ANY circumstances.

[Wilber]

Add "morons" to the list for those who insist that she should be permanently scarred because of what was clearly an accident and poor safety procedures. Shooting fatalities caused by kids shooting firearms are not all that rare (hunting, unsecured firearms at home, gang banging, etc.).

Here is an identical Uzi scenario from 2008:

WESTFIELD, Mass. — An 8-year-old boy died after accidentally shooting himself in the head while firing an Uzi submachine gun under adult supervision at a gun fair.

The boy lost control of the weapon while firing it Sunday at the Machine Gun Shoot and Firearms Expo at the Westfield Sportsman’s Club, police Lt. Lawrence Vallierpratte said.

Police said the boy, Christopher Bizilj of Ashford, Conn., was with a certified instructor and called the death a “self-inflicted accidental shooting.”

Jeezus BC, we are talking about children here. Twelve freaking years away from legally having a beer in your country and you hand them a bloody Uzi. and say blast away. Where do you come up with this crap?

Edited August 29, 2014 by Wilber

[guyser]

Only a "moron" would say she "should" be. The rest of us I think are concerned that she very well could be.

Yup, only a moron would say that.

pssst Wilber, same place as he sits on.

[bush_cheney2004]

Jeezus BC, we are talking about children here. Twelve freaking years away from legally having a beer in your country and you hand them a bloody Uzi. and say blast away. Where do you come up with this crap?

Actually, "having a beer" kills far more people/children directly and indirectly than "blasting away" with an Uzi. Intentional and accidental firearms deaths are an accepted risk in a nation that has constitutional rights to own and bear guns. Hell, they are also an accepted risk in nations that have no such rights (e.g. Canada).

For instance, about 1,000 people are killed or injured each year in the U.S./Canada from hunting accidents (~10% fatal).

Objectivity is not "crap".

Edited August 29, 2014 by bush_cheney2004

[Wilber]

Actually, "having a beer" kills far more people/children directly and indirectly than "blasting away" with an Uzi. Intentional and accidental firearms deaths are an accepted risk in a nation that has constitutional rights to own and bear guns. Hell, they are also an accepted risk in nations that have no such rights (e.g. Canada).

For instance, about 1,000 people are killed or injured each year in the U.S./Canada from hunting accidents (~10% fatal).

Objectivity is not "crap".

No it's not.

A: You can't kill someone with a beer, only yourself.

B: Giving children automatic weapons to play with has nothing to do with rights and everything to do with responsibility and it sure as hell isn't an accepted risk in Canada.

I don't have a problem with kids learning to use something like single shot or bolt action 22's but fully automatic weapons, not a chance.

Unless of course you are recruiting for a child army in the Congo,

[On Guard for Thee]

Actually, "having a beer" kills far more people/children directly and indirectly than "blasting away" with an Uzi. Intentional and accidental firearms deaths are an accepted risk in a nation that has constitutional rights to own and bear guns. Hell, they are also an accepted risk in nations that have no such rights (e.g. Canada).

For instance, about 1,000 people are killed or injured each year in the U.S./Canada from hunting accidents (~10% fatal).

Objectivity is not "crap".

We have guns in Canada just to let you know. But we are a bit smarter at deciding what should be a right and what should be a priviledge. Further I think most of us understand that an Uzi in the hands of a child is not, nor should be either one.

[bush_cheney2004]

No it's not.

A: You can't kill someone with a beer, only yourself.

You missed the main point here....alcohol is far more regulated yet it causes far more deaths each year directly and indirectly.

B: Giving children automatic weapons to play with has nothing to do with rights and everything to do with responsibility and it sure as hell isn't an accepted risk in Canada.

I don't have a problem with kids learning to use something like single shot or bolt action 22's but fully automatic weapons, not a chance.

Automatic weapons are highly regulated and do not cause the majority of deaths and injuries...not even close. So it's OK to be shot and killed with a bolt action or semi-auto ?

[Wilber]

You missed the main point here....alcohol is far more regulated yet it causes far more deaths each year directly and indirectly.

Not by children unless you give 9 year old's driver's licenses or let them drink and handle firearms.

Automatic weapons are highly regulated and do not cause the majority of deaths and injuries...not even close. So it's OK to be shot and killed with a bolt action or semi-auto ?

Apparently not so highly regulated that you can't give them to children to play with and apparently you don't know the difference between the two.

[bush_cheney2004]

Apparently not so highly regulated that you can't give them to children to play with and apparently you don't know the difference between the two.

Doesn't matter what you (or I) think the difference may be. Each state regulates firearms as determined by the legislature and federal law. It is perfectly legal for a 9-year-old to handle automatic weapons with correct safeties and supervision in many states.

[Wilber]

Doesn't matter what you (or I) think the difference may be. Each state regulates firearms as determined by the legislature and federal law. It is perfectly legal for a 9-year-old to handle automatic weapons with correct safeties and supervision in many states.

Glad it's your madness and not ours.

[bush_cheney2004]

Glad it's your madness and not ours.

Right...it's part of American culture. Don't you guys always preach that each culture is to be respected and tolerated as part of "multiculturalism" ?

So what's the problem ? This incident was another accident (preventable or otherwise) that happens every day in a country of 350 million people.

[On Guard for Thee]

Glad it's your madness and not ours.

Talk of madness, I'm sure we all recall the 8 year old who shot his granny with his .38 after playing a little "Grand Theft Auto"

[Wilber]

Right...it's part of American culture. Don't you guys always preach that each culture is to be respected and tolerated as part of "multiculturalism" ?

So what's the problem ? This incident was another accident (preventable or otherwise) that happens every day in a country of 350 million people.

Whatever gave you the idea we have to respect everything in another culture? What a rediculous notion. Do you really think Canadians believe they should respect things like female genital mutilation?

[bush_cheney2004]

Whatever gave you the idea we have to respect everything in another culture? What a rediculous notion. Do you really think Canadians believe they should respect things like female genital mutilation?

Canadian laws and beliefs don't apply in other countries.

Male genital mutilation is OK ?

Edited August 29, 2014 by bush_cheney2004

[Wilber]

Canadian laws and beliefs don't apply in other countries.

Never said they do.

[BubberMiley]

I would have an inferiority complex if I had to defend that mess too.

[Bob Macadoo]

I would have an inferiority complex if I had to defend that mess too.

And the moral flexibility to go with it.

[WWWTT]

I'm surprised this made news actually.

The US loves their guns and I would imagine that this little girl losing control of a highly US worshiped toy would be acceptable loses and brushed aside.

Maybe if there was no footage, this story wouldn't have any legs.

WWWTT

[bush_cheney2004]

....The US loves their guns and I would imagine that this little girl losing control of a highly US worshiped toy would be acceptable loses and brushed aside.

Agreed...most people here had no idea that a child in CT actually shot himself with an Uzi in 2008. No video ?

[On Guard for Thee]

Agreed...most people here had no idea that a child in CT actually shot himself with an Uzi in 2008. No video ?

Pretty hard to hide such stupidity all the time.

[On Guard for Thee]

Agreed...most people here had no idea that a child in CT actually shot himself with an Uzi in 2008. No video ?

Hey we know y'all luvs yer guns, but now UR gettin' so paranoid over them you are arresting 16 year olds who write stories about shooting their pet dinosaur. What next?