Smallc Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 To make an omelette, you've gotta break some eggs, but be sure to break mostly the brown shelled ones. It's hard to take you seriously anymore. Lack of privilege (sic) isn't an excuse for crime. Sorry. Quote
Black Dog Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Posted December 11, 2014 It's hard to take you seriously anymore. Lack of privilege (sic) isn't an excuse for crime. Sorry. Do you know the difference between an excuse and an explanation? Quote
Smallc Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Do you know the difference between an excuse and an explanation? In this case, there is no difference. Quote
Black Dog Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Posted December 11, 2014 In this case, there is no difference. I'm listening: please explain. Quote
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 It's hard to take you seriously anymore. Lack of privilege (sic) isn't an excuse for crime. Sorry. The crime of selling loose cigarettes or the crime of jaywalking? What crime are you talking about exactly? Because I guess you're perfectly fine with the sentence for those things being death without trial. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 So death with trial would be OK ? Welcome to the "dark" side. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 The crime of selling loose cigarettes or the crime of jaywalking? What crime are you talking about exactly? Because I guess you're perfectly fine with the sentence for those things being death without trial. Those are crimes. You can't just not cooperate with the police, no matter who you are. The case in New York did escalate to where it shouldn't have, but that isn't only because of the police. The case in Ferguson has been pretty much debunked at every level. Quote
Smallc Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 But go ahead and continue with your paternalistic attitude. Black people are poor and were oppressed. They couldn't possibly know any better. Quote
Black Dog Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Posted December 11, 2014 But go ahead and continue with your paternalistic attitude. Black people are poor and were oppressed. They couldn't possibly know any better. Where did cybercoma say or imply this? Quote
Smallc Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Where did cybercoma say or imply this? That is the general theme. it doesn't take much in the way of reading between the lines. Quote
GostHacked Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Those are crimes. You can't just not cooperate with the police, no matter who you are. The case in New York did escalate to where it shouldn't have, but that isn't only because of the police. The case in Ferguson has been pretty much debunked at every level. Do we really need to have this kind of force used on people for misdemeanor crimes? I've seen bankers get handled with kid gloves for ruining hundreds of thousands of people's life savings and homes. But a man on the street selling illegal smokes gets killed. Quote
Black Dog Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Posted December 11, 2014 That is the general theme. it doesn't take much in the way of reading between the lines. As you once said to me: it is pathetic to insinuate things that you have no proof of and then attack others for asking you for said proof...that you don't have. Quote
Shady Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Do we really need to have this kind of force used on people for misdemeanor crimes? I've seen bankers get handled with kid gloves for ruining hundreds of thousands of people's life savings and homes. But a man on the street selling illegal smokes gets killed.No, 99.9999999% of the time, force isn't used. Because people under arrest usually don't resist. If he was selling cigarettes in front of your house, what would you want the police to do if he refused to leave and stop? Quote
Smallc Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 As you once said to me: it is pathetic to insinuate things that you have no proof of and then attack others for asking you for said proof...that you don't have. That wasn't the same type of example. I've taken part in this thread for it's entire 165 pages. I know what everyone is arguing, as I used to argue the same things. Quote
Black Dog Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Posted December 11, 2014 That wasn't the same type of example. I've taken part in this thread for it's entire 165 pages. I know what everyone is arguing, as I used to argue the same things. What statement did you "read between the lines" on that led you to your conclusion that cybercoma was justifying and defending crime versus explaining why crime exists in certain communities? Quote
GostHacked Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 No, 99.9999999% of the time, force isn't used. Because people under arrest usually don't resist. If he was selling cigarettes in front of your house, what would you want the police to do if he refused to leave and stop? Of course I would want them to kill the man right there on the spot. But my first question would be 'how much'? Rather not pay 15 bucks a pack. Wonder who really is getting robbed here. Quote
GostHacked Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Link to a video http://ib149187.ib-prod.com/p/557781/sp/55778100/serveFlavor/entryId/0_x0xfhxf6/v/2/flavorId/0_sy2r2lcj/name/a.mp4 More unwarranted police actions. Quote
Argus Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Where did cybercoma say or imply this? In just about every post he's ever made. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) The crime of selling loose cigarettes or the crime of jaywalking? What crime are you talking about exactly? Because I guess you're perfectly fine with the sentence for those things being death without trial. Oh can the histrionics. We're all tired of them. This was an accidental death intended by no one. Its root cause lies in the man's poor health. The police were relatively gentle given he was resisting arrest. Anyone who the police try to arrest who jerks his hands away and refuses to cooperate is going to be put on the ground so they can cuff him. Period. End of story. Edited December 11, 2014 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Shady Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Of course I would want them to kill the man right there on the spot. But my first question would be 'how much'? Rather not pay 15 bucks a pack. Wonder who really is getting robbed here. That's a false choice. Would you ultimately want him removed from in front of your house? What if he kept refusing? Then what? They'd have to use force right? Quote
Black Dog Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Posted December 11, 2014 In just about every post he's ever made. Sort of like how one could easily read between the lines in so many of your posts and topics and conclude that you are a white supremacist? Quote
Argus Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Sort of like how one could easily read between the lines in so many of your posts and topics and conclude that you are a white supremacist? If one is a drooling moron, sure. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
GostHacked Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 That's a false choice. Would you ultimately want him removed from in front of your house? What if he kept refusing? Then what? They'd have to use force right? A false choice? I thought everyone would want cheaper smokes. Quote
Black Dog Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) If one is a drooling moron, sure. If it takes a drooling moron to think someone who obsesses over the evils of immigration, "black on black" crime and other favorite topics of the Stormfront set might be a white supremacist, then drawing the conclusion smallc has and which you endorse based on a "between the lines" reading of cybercoma's posts must be the work of an anencephalic. Edited December 11, 2014 by Black Dog Quote
GostHacked Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Maybe we can steer clear of insults. Not really helping this discussion. Quote
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