Derek 2.0 Posted October 2, 2014 Report Posted October 2, 2014 Liberal leader Justin Trudeau suggested Wednesday that by limiting Canada’s contribution to the anti-ISIS mission to “a handful of aging warplanes”, Prime Minister Harper was ignoring the fields of humanitarian, diplomatic, and political aid in which Canada could play a far greater role. Aging war planes, no respect . Or this Trudeau "gem"........ Quote
guyser Posted October 2, 2014 Report Posted October 2, 2014 Lets tell the enemy what we are doing.I bet they can count. Quote
Smallc Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 Trudeau needs a real opponent. If only Harper had quit and Prentice had been given the opportunity to run for the federal leadership instead of winning Alberta. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 This is one event that we all should be concerned about. Not to be used for votes. Either he is in or not, you can't have it both ways. If it was about boots on the ground OK, but if the air force can help and keep our boots off the ground and help support arab boots on the ground, then he should at least look at it and not just say NO. That is not leadership. And waffling about either not knowing or not telling even how many people he has sent into a war zone is what you call leadership? I call it embarassing. Harper needs to learn he is not the only elected rep in this country. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 Trudeau needs a real opponent. If only Harper had quit and Prentice had been given the opportunity to run for the federal leadership instead of winning Alberta. With the show that Jason Kenney put on today at the Canada 2020 conference, I would not be surprised if that leadership race is sooner rather than later. He finished giving an address to the progressive crowd and then did something almost unheard from Harper these days: he opened the floor to questions. This wasn't a limited scrum with scripted questions. He actually took questions from a progressive crowd and looked like a leader doing so. Now I don't agree with a god damned thing that came out of his mouth, but I respect him for having the fortitude to stand before a crowd made up of people who are largely opposed to his ideologies and political stances and take their questions, literally going over the time he had for that session. Kenney will be a great party leader when Harper gives up the reins and people will hate him even more than they did Mr. Harper. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 And waffling about either not knowing or not telling even how many people he has sent into a war zone is what you call leadership? I call it embarassing. Harper needs to learn he is not the only elected rep in this country. Don't worry. All will be clear when he tells everyone what's going on late tomorrow afternoon when nobody's paying attention to Ottawa and hopefully they will all forget the details come Monday morning's water cooler talks. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 Don't worry. All will be clear when he tells everyone what's going on late tomorrow afternoon when nobody's paying attention to Ottawa and hopefully they will all forget the details come Monday morning's water cooler talks. Perhaps in similar fashion as to how FIPA was "introduced"? Quote
cybercoma Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 Almost every important announcement is made late Friday afternoon. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 Almost every important announcement is made late Friday afternoon. Of course. What seems quite blatant to me recently is there seems to be no end to the champagne corks popping over this as yet unratified EU deal and the complete secrecy surrounding FIPA. You know, not only a Friday pm but just under the wire before the fall sitting. Quote
Smallc Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) This is the thing that could save Harper...though I question why it doesn't even make news at CBC. http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/10/02/federal-deficit-for-2013-14-more-than-10-billion-lower-than-first-projected-harper/ Edited October 3, 2014 by Smallc Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 This is the thing that could save Harper...though I question why it doesn't even make news at CBC. http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/10/02/federal-deficit-for-2013-14-more-than-10-billion-lower-than-first-projected-harper/ I must assume by that comment you don't listen to CBC. It's been reported all day. Quote
Smallc Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 I only read CBC.ca (all day long) and neither they nor CTV had it on their page anywhere you could see it. I found a CTV story about it though. I couldn't see anything from CBC. Quote
PIK Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 Or this Trudeau "gem"........ Trudeau should resign now. This juvenile remark from him shows he is nothing but a frat boy and not even close for prime time. Meanwhile harper shows nothing but solid leadership. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Smallc Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 He says some pretty stupid things, but he is human. Quote
Black Dog Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 Yes he is big time. That is not the canadian way. Then the Canadian way is wrong. There's nothing in it for us to get involved in Iraq. Quote
Black Dog Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 He says some pretty stupid things, but he is human. Meanwhile, the jury is still out on Harper on that one. Quote
PIK Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 He says some pretty stupid things, but he is human. A human not fit to lead this country. He does not even understand anything. Canada since 2012 has given more per capital them any other nation on earth, did he not know that? Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
PIK Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 Then the Canadian way is wrong. There's nothing in it for us to get involved in Iraq. The Canadian way is to stand with out allies, and stop this slaughter. The left always use to say if the UN agrees then we agree and the latest UN report shows how barbaric these people are. Harper is on the right side of history and trudeau hasn't a clue on what is going on. See you in ''15'' Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Black Dog Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 The Canadian way is to stand with out allies, and stop this slaughter. The left always use to say if the UN agrees then we agree and the latest UN report shows how barbaric these people are. Harper is on the right side of history and trudeau hasn't a clue on what is going on. See you in ''15'' Canada has, like most other western states, sat around with its finger up its ass while far worse slaughters have occurred (and continue to occur). The Canadian way is to be very selective about what slaughters warrant our involvement. Can you tell us why this particular conflict deserves a response from us? Quote
PIK Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 Canada has, like most other western states, sat around with its finger up its ass while far worse slaughters have occurred (and continue to occur). The Canadian way is to be very selective about what slaughters warrant our involvement. Can you tell us why this particular conflict deserves a response from us? By the UN report , this is a lot more barbaric then anything else. Your boy screwed up, so be a man and admit it. He is a flake that should quit today. This is the start of the end of Justin. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Black Dog Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 By the UN report , this is a lot more barbaric then anything else. Clearly you are not very well informed. Do a little homework on the war in the Congo, for example, you might actually learn something and can explain what makes ISIL so special. Your boy screwed up, so be a man and admit it. He is a flake that should quit today. This is the start of the end of Justin. He's not "my boy". Quote
Argus Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 Many strategists say that there is little to be gained by most airstrikes at this point in the game, and that this is where the Iraqi army has to get their ground game on. I think it's demonstrably false that air strikes won't greatly help the Iraqi army or Kurds in pushing back ISIL Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Black Dog Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 I think it's demonstrably false that air strikes won't greatly help the Iraqi army or Kurds in pushing back ISIL I think it's also demonstrably true that Canada's contribution or not won't make a difference one way or another. We're as big a player in this as Denmark. Quote
Argus Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 I think Trudeau's comment is par for the course for him and Liberals in general. He's basically saying that yes, ISIL needs to be stopped, but Canada is far too noble and moral a people to actually attack them. Rather, we should simply carry the luggage for those other nations which don't have our highly refined sense of nobility, and let them kill people. We'll truck and sweep and stuff like that, you know, HELPING people, which of course, is in line with our higher nobility. Of course, it's a little difficult to earnestly hand out supplies of wheat and water to people while ISIL is hacking their heads off. But on the other hand, it is in line with our esteemed sense of moral superiority. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 I think it's also demonstrably true that Canada's contribution or not won't make a difference one way or another. We're as big a player in this as Denmark. True enough. But if you put enough countries together then their 6 planes apiece contribution adds up to quite a few bombs and missiles. Of course, Canada will have to actually BUY some bombs and missiles from someone... Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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