How Trudeau is winning my vote

[WestCoastRunner]

Many people would prefer smoking a half joint over drinking numerous bottles of beer, glasses of wine, shots etc. over the course of an evening. Tell me which would have the less negative impacts on the mind and body.. And then tell me which person would be more likely to be able to go for a run or a long cycle ride the next day.

[Boges]

Cigs aren't really restricted other than some stores can't sell to minors. And it's pretty hard to do away with substances. Sure it would be better if noone did anything harmful to themselves. I'd rather have my kid smoke one joint a day than 20 cigarettes.

20 cigarettes isn't going to get you high as a kite. Neither is a beer.

[Boges]

Many people would prefer smoking a half joint over drinking numerous bottles of beer, glasses of wine, shots etc. over the course of an evening. Tell me which would have the less negative impacts on the mind and body.. And then tell me which person would be more likely to be able to go for a run or a long cycle ride the next day.

In moderation none of them would be all that harmful.

[danchessplayer]

I hate marijuana

[Black Dog]

You don't care that Trudeau lies about things?

Except he didn't.

[Boges]

Emery actually lied. He also called a Jewish Liberal Cabinet minister a Nazi.

If JT allowed him or his wife to run or campaign for him it would look bad.

[Smallc]

20 cigarettes isn't going to get you high as a kite. Neither is a beer.

Drunk is far worse than what happens when you smoke marijuana.

[Smallc]

Emery actually lied. He also called a Jewish Liberal Cabinet minister a Nazi.

If JT allowed him or his wife to run or campaign for him it would look bad.

As if he's going to do something so silly.

[Black Dog]

I think it is more harmful. Breathing smoke into your lungs is not good for your lungs. Also, THC is not good for you at all, especially the brain.

Cigarettes are actually chemically addictive. Pot is not. As for the harmful effects of THC, we don't really know because not much research has been done, thanks to the anti-drug zealots. But there's a host of positive benefits from cannabis use for some people. There's none for cigarettes.

No, I don't think so. So why are we trying to legalize one, while at the same time, restricting the other? Wouldn't the logical and consistent position be to do away with both substances?

Logical and consistent would be to either subject tobacco to the same prohibitions as marijuana currently, or make marijuana legal with some restrictions, like tobacco.

Personally, if I had a teenage son or daughter, I'd rather catch them smoking a cigarette than a joint.

Not me. Cigarettes are far more addictive and toxic.

No, I don't think that marijuana smoke is less harmful than cigarette smoke. There's no THC in cigarette smoke, which is a mild form of acid.

There's something like 500 chemical compounds in pot. Cigarettes have more than 4,000 including benzene, formaldehyde, cyanide, lead, carbon monoxide and tar. And who cares if THC is an acid anyway? Your body is full of acids.

Edited August 15, 2014 by Black Dog

[BubberMiley]

I think it is more harmful. Breathing smoke into your lungs is not good for your lungs. Also, THC is not good for you at all, especially the brain.

Everybody vapes these days. No smoke necessary.

But what study says THC isn't good for you? Please provide data, or is this like your global warming posts where you just drive by with misleading information and then disappear when called out for being full of crap?

[Boges]

Drunk is far worse than what happens when you smoke marijuana.

Drunk is quite subjective, we talking buzz or bleep faced? Not a whole lot of MJ can get one to the level of impairment of multiple drinks.

[Boges]

I think a distinction should be made between cigarettes and tobacco.

I smoke cigars, never felt addicted to them.

[BubberMiley]

Not a whole lot of MJ can get one to the level of impairment of multiple drinks.

You're just making that up based on nothing.

[Black Dog]

I think a distinction should be made between cigarettes and tobacco.

I smoke cigars, never felt addicted to them.

You don't inhale cigar smoke.

[Boges]

You're just making that up based on nothing.

People are talking about smoking half a joint. That's the relative volume of perhaps a cigarillos. A Colt doesn't give you an appreciable level of impairment.

I heard Marc Emery do an interview this week. He admitted he could only handle about 3 tokes after being without the drug for so long.

As for alchohol there are many variables in how someone can use alcohol to achieve impairment, it's no an apples to apples comparison.

Edited August 15, 2014 by Boges

[Boges]

You don't inhale cigar smoke.

The cigarette filter allows one to inhale tobacco. That's where the problem related to tobacco primarily lies.

[Black Dog]

The cigarette filter allows one to inhale tobacco. That's where the problem related to tobacco primarily lies.

You can inhale tobacco without a filter, you know. And yes the problem is the inhaling, which is why cigars aren't as harmful. Capice?

[Boges]

You can inhale tobacco without a filter, you know. And yes the problem is the inhaling, which is why cigars aren't as harmful. Capice?

You can, you just end up hacking your guts out.

I've never found inhaling MJ a piticularly pleasant task.

[Black Dog]

You can, you just end up hacking your guts out.

Wuss.

I've never found inhaling MJ a piticularly pleasant task.

That often depends on the quality of the product and the delivery system. Dank stuff is better than dry, bongs better than joints, vaporizers best of all.

[Boges]

I'm sure you get used to it as you do it more. But it's hard to convince someone that it's not somewhat addictive if you do it everyday.

I think there are just people that get addicted to anything. Gambling, Alcohol, Pornography.

If your smoking pot every day. I don't see how that's much different than an alcoholic.

[BubberMiley]

People are talking about smoking half a joint. That's the relative volume of perhaps a cigarillos. A Colt doesn't give you an appreciable level of impairment.

What "people"? A cigarillo? A Colt? What are you talking about?

[Boges]

What "people"? A cigarillo? A Colt? What are you talking about?

Small cigars. That's an apples to apples comparison of an average joint to a comparable ammount of tobacco.

[BubberMiley]

If your smoking pot every day. I don't see how that's much different than an alcoholic.

What if you only smoke very small amounts on a very regular basis (way less than the half a joint "people are talking about smoking") and it therefore does not affect your ability to function productively?

[BubberMiley]

Small cigars. That's an apples to apples comparison of an average joint to a comparable ammount of tobacco.

How can you compare the two? That makes no sense.

[Black Dog]

I'm sure you get used to it as you do it more. But it's hard to convince someone that it's not somewhat addictive if you do it everyday.

I think there are just people that get addicted to anything. Gambling, Alcohol, Pornography.

I'd expect the share of people who smoke weed every day is small even among regular uses of the stuff. Seems silly to focus on people on one end of the curve and ignore the big fat section in the middle.

If your smoking pot every day. I don't see how that's much different than an alcoholic.

Well they are all addicts, but the devil is in the details.