Multiculturalism in Canada - Does it Unite or Divide?

[eyeball]

You want us to ignore 90% of the planet because the local government doesn't have our appreciation for human rights?

I don't want to be complicit in the abuse of human rights.

Seems to me when the West tried to avoid doing business with Iraq under Sadaam hordes of folks were screaming about how we were responsible for lots of people dying in Iraq.

Maybe to anyone who apologizes for the Wests's general pattern of complicity - it wasn't screaming it was simply decent folks yelling WTF regarding the central role that dictators like Hussein play in much of the West's policies.

[cybercoma]

The only human rights that are being abused are the human rights of Canadians who uphold our traditional values and morals. All of these immigrants coming over here sucking on the public teat are part of the liberal agenda to undermine our culture and secure their socialist utopia that steals from those who work hard and gives their wealth to the dregs of society. I have the right to what I earn through my hard work and I have the right to uphold Canadian values and morals. The liberal agenda is trying to rob me of my hard earned money and my culture, which is by far superior to cultures that advocate the butchering of their women and children.

Edited July 27, 2014 by cybercoma

[Argus]

I don't want to be complicit in the abuse of human rights.

Maybe to anyone who apologizes for the Wests's general pattern of complicity - it wasn't screaming it was simply decent folks yelling WTF regarding the central role that dictators like Hussein play in much of the West's policies.

You're being incoherent here in resolving my question. If we do business with them we're complicit. If we outlaw them we're responsible for the deaths of their citizens. If we invade them to remove the dictators we're responsible for all the violence which follows, even after we leave. What precisely are we supposed to do that would please you?

[Argus]

The only human rights that are being abused are the human rights of Canadians who uphold our traditional values and morals. All of these immigrants coming over here sucking on the public teat are

This is getting old fast.

[On Guard for Thee]

Not in our government yet, now if trudeau wins......

Oh yeah? Check out Harper's goofy church and then maybe you'll understand why they are firing all the scientists

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_and_Missionary_Alliance

[Shady]

No, we're bad for letting our governments work with dictators and monsters when exploiting other people's resources to do the above.

Actually we're worse than bad because we should know better.

That's ethnocentrism.

You seek to impose your morals and values on other people's societies. And if they don't capitulate to your standards, you seek to marginalize them, isolate them, and ignore them.

[On Guard for Thee]

That's ethnocentrism.

You seek to impose your morals and values on other people's societies. And if they don't capitulate to your standards, you seek to marginalize them, isolate them, and ignore them.

Nope, you're mis-applying the term. We do the same thing everyday right here at home. Our courts do more than marginalize people who don't "capitulate" to our standards, they put them in jail with our blessing. The US has had what is called the Foreign Corrupt Pracices Act for a number of years which essentially says if you go abroad and do something that would be deemed illegal on home turf, the courts will deal with you equally as if you DID break that law on home turf. Unfortunately I don't think it gets applied as often as it should.

[Shady]

Nope, you're mis-applying the term. We do the same thing everyday right here at home.

No, that's just not true. One cannot be ethnocentric towards their own culture.

[On Guard for Thee]

Oh yeah? Check out Harper's goofy church and then maybe you'll understand why they are firing all the scientists

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_and_Missionary_Alliance

Here's a little more of CAMA's own gibberish.

http://www.cornwallalliance.org/articles/read/the-cornwall-declaration-on-environmental-stewardship/

[cybercoma]

This is getting old fast.

If you don't like my contributions, then just ignore them. Nobody is forcing you to read my posts.

[On Guard for Thee]

No, that's just not true. One cannot be ethnocentric towards their own culture.

I didn't say one could. I said the term doesn't apply in this case.

[cybercoma]

No, that's just not true. One cannot be ethnocentric towards their own culture.

That's the definition of ethnocentricity.

From dictionary.com

ethnocentrism

noun

1.

Sociology. the belief in the inherent superiority of one's own ethnic group or culture.

2.

a tendency to view alien groups or cultures from the perspective of one's own.

The belief in the inherent superiotiy of one's own culture.

And of course, that's the right position to have because our culture is vastly and clearly superior to most others.

[dre]

This is getting old fast.

Jeez thats a bit harsh. Youve been spewing that crap for years, and Cyber has only been at for a week or two!

[cybercoma]

Jeez thats a bit harsh. Youve been spewing that crap for years, and Cyber has only been at for a week or two!

2 days. I had my epiphany 2 days ago. Where I saw the light and realized we're at war and we're losing.

Edited July 27, 2014 by cybercoma

[dre]

2 days. I had my epiphany 2 days ago. Where I saw the light and realized we're at war and we're losing.

Joined the dork side huh?

Edited July 27, 2014 by dre

[Shady]

Jeez thats a bit harsh. Youve been spewing that crap for years, and Cyber has only been at for a week or two!

Please refrain from personal attacks.

[dre]

Please refrain from personal attacks.

Never made one. Please refrain from trying to be a hall-monitor when you cant read and dont understand the rules.

Edited July 27, 2014 by dre

[Shady]

Never made one. Please refrain from trying to be a hall-monitor when you cant read and dont understand the rules.

Um, telling sombody their opinion is like spewing crap is a personal attack. Please refrain.

[Argus]

Jeez thats a bit harsh. Youve been spewing that crap for years, and Cyber has only been at for a week or two!

Just because I generally disagree with the emotional gibberish you think passes for intelligent policy beliefs is no reason for you to embrace Cyber's sulky response to Charles disagreeing with him about trolling.

[dre]

Please refrain from personal attacks.

Try to follow along Shady...

This is what I referred to as crap...

The only human rights that are being abused are the human rights of Canadians who uphold our traditional values and morals. All of these immigrants coming over here sucking on the public teat are

Argus didnt even post it... And no... describing an opinion as crap or bs is not against the rules.

If you wanna be a volunteer hall monitory then read the rules.

[cybercoma]

Charles didn't disagree with me about anything. I haven't talked to Charles in at least a month. Ask him yourself. That's the last I will say about this here or anywhere, since this is off topic and really irrelevant to the discussion. If you don't want to engage with my ideas, fine. But stop making this personal. It's against the rules and I would rather discuss the issues.

Edited July 27, 2014 by cybercoma

[Big Guy]

...

... this is off topic and really irrelevant to the discussion. If you don't want to engage with my ideas, fine. But stop making this personal. It's against the rules and I would rather discuss the issues.

A refreshing point of view that should be used as our template.

Epiphanies are relatively rare occurrences and generally follow a process of significant thought about a problem. Often they are triggered by a new and key piece of information, but importantly, a depth of prior knowledge is required to allow the leap of understanding. This latest Cybercoma epiphany is in the same miraculous territory as Archimedes's discovery of a method to determine the density of an object ("Eureka!)") and Issac Newton's realization that a falling apple and the orbiting moon are both pulled by the same force.^[

Those on the more right of the political spectrum should be warned of a new member intent on infiltration followed by taking control of the agenda.

BTW Does one have a headache after suffering an epiphany?

Is it an out-of-body experience?

Is it an out-of-mind experience?

[cybercoma]

It's a matter of protecting our culture and values. There's a war going on for the hearts and minds of the next generation and we're losing. I will not stand for our culture being underminded by debauchery and the depravity of the Liberal Agenda. Multiculturalism is a failed project. It leads to more crime and economic disparity. We need to put a stop to it.

[ironstone]

On Canada Day, I posted the following to the thread with the OP “What unites Canadians?”. My post stated; “I believe that one of the factors is our acceptance of multiculturalism. About 40% of Canadians are of the first or second generation. While there are a few who are still bigots the vast majority embrace the idea of and the strength of the mixture of cultures and the diversity of experiences in other countries.”

This post seemed to steer the topic away from the OP and focus on the issue of multiculturalism in Canada. Since I appear to have created the tangent then I will try to separate this avenue of discussion from that of the original OP.

I personally favour the melting pot approach instead of paying for multiculturalism.Do you believe that any foreign government that does not support multiculturalism is bigoted?

[On Guard for Thee]

I didn't say one could. I said the term doesn't apply in this case.

apparently Harper doesn't pracice ethnocentricity. We have laws that protect teh rights of same sex couple. He uses our tax buck to fund Christian Crossroads. He's like "anti" ethnocentric.