Shady Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 There's no such thing as a right to be a Canadian citizen. Quote
Argus Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 Sorry Shady, but luckily we dont change our laws based on bigotry. Just because you embrace radical extremism that doesn't mean those who disapprove of such people are bigots. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 Just because you embrace radical extremism that doesn't mean those who disapprove of such people are bigots. Yet another wild assumption by Argus. But what I do embrace are Canadian laws. Wishing they not be observed based on your particular dislike of a certain individuals family background, especially in this case, could well be based on bigotry Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 Canada has laws about what a "home country" is? Sounds like you guys didn't actually read what Shady wrote. WWWTT He was born in Canada, and his parents were not here as diplomats, ergo he is Canadian. Quote
Shady Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 Yet another wild assumption by Argus. But what I do embrace are Canadian laws. Wishing they not be observed based on your particular dislike of a certain individuals family background, especially in this case, could well be based on bigotryRight. You embrace Canadian law, unless it's a law you don't agree with. Quote
Shady Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 He was born in Canada, and his parents were not here as diplomats, ergo he is Canadian. The are situations in which somebody can be stripped of their citizenship. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 Right. You embrace Canadian law, unless it's a law you don't agree with. Huh...not sure what your have point is supposed to be, but, I embrace Canadian law whether I agree with it or not. Maybe why Ive never been in jail. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 The are situations in which somebody can be stripped of their citizenship. Not Canadian born citizens. Quote
Shady Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 Not Canadian born citizens. No there are instances where when a Canadian born citizen can qualify. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 No there are instances where when a Canadian born citizen can qualify. Harper has made some changes the law of citizenship but they haven't been used yet. When they do attempt to, in all likelihood they will be deemed unconstitutional, and once again more tax dollars will be wasted to fight a stupid case that the SCC will overturn. Quote
cybercoma Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 Your point was wrong, because it isn't a comparable situation. The 15 year old in your case can still make up their own mind and have sex with anyone from 13 - 20. They're still largely responsible for their own actions.The 15 year old isn't going to jail because the government recognizes that it's wrong to convict them for that. You know, just like our government should recognize that it's wrong to beat and torture a child and tear up their judicial and human rights. Quote
cybercoma Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 There's no such thing as a right to be a Canadian citizen.Wrong. Any other ridiculous arguments you want to make? Quote
cybercoma Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 Just because you embrace radical extremism that doesn't mean those who disapprove of such people are bigots.You sound like you have no respect for Canadian laws. Legally, Omar Khadr is a Canadian citizen and not a citizen of any other country. Do you not respect the law in our country? Because I've seen that you have a lot of choice words for people who don't respect our laws. And frankly, your words are even worse for people who don't respect our laws and aren't born here. Where were you born again and why do you have no respect for our laws? Quote
cybercoma Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 Right. You embrace Canadian law, unless it's a law you don't agree with.That is exactly what you're doing by denying that Khadr is a legal citizen of this country by birthright, just like you (assumedly) or me. Quote
cybercoma Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 The are situations in which somebody can be stripped of their citizenship.Name them and explain the process. Quote
Argus Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 Yet another wild assumption by Argus. But what I do embrace are Canadian laws. Wishing they not be observed based on your particular dislike of a certain individuals family background, especially in this case, could well be based on bigotry You think the people who don't like Khadr and his family would love them if they were blondes? Like they love Paul Bernardo? You have any idea who stupid that is? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 He was born in Canada, and his parents were not here as diplomats, ergo he is Canadian. Only by law, not by reality. He's spent no time here, didn't grow up here, knows quite literally nothing about Canada, and if he knows English he learned it in Gitmo. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Smallc Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 The 15 year old isn't going to jail because the government recognizes that it's wrong to convict them for that On that point, I generally agree (though this never should have been our case to begin with - he should have stayed in the US). I don't agree that he's a saint who deserves the benefit of any doubt. I think he should be monitored for the rest of his life now. He's a theoretical danger to the Canadian populace. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 You think the people who don't like Khadr and his family would love them if they were blondes? Like they love Paul Bernardo? You have any idea who stupid that is? I know how stupid it is to try and compare Bernardo to Khadr. But in any case, Khadr is a natural born Canadian and unless and until the law is changed, he has a right to be here. Quote
Argus Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 I know how stupid it is to try and compare Bernardo to Khadr. But in any case, Khadr is a natural born Canadian and unless and until the law is changed, he has a right to be here. Then the law should be changed. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 Then the law should be changed. And would you trust Harper to change it....next thing you know you will be bereft of citizenship if you fail to vote for his party. Seriously though, just where do you propose to draw the line at when you can ignore the charter of rights. Quote
Argus Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 And would you trust Harper to change it....next thing you know you will be bereft of citizenship if you fail to vote for his party. Seriously though, just where do you propose to draw the line at when you can ignore the charter of rights. Charter has nothing to do with it. The Charter doesn't define citizenship. Where would I draw the line? I would, first of all, not automatically give citizenship to those born here unless they're born to Canadian citizens. Second, The children of immigrants would only become Canadian citizens if raised in Canada. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
cybercoma Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 On that point, I generally agree (though this never should have been our case to begin with - he should have stayed in the US). I don't agree that he's a saint who deserves the benefit of any doubt. I think he should be monitored for the rest of his life now. He's a theoretical danger to the Canadian populace.You're a theoretical danger to the Canadian populace. Every person walking this earth is a theoretical danger to others. Quote
cybercoma Posted May 16, 2015 Report Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) I know how stupid it is to try and compare Bernardo to Khadr. But in any case, Khadr is a natural born Canadian and unless and until the law is changed, he has a right to be here.Pretend stupid, since Bernardo wasn't beaten and tortured for years without trial. Bernardo was actually given a fair trial. Think about that one for a minute. Edited May 16, 2015 by cybercoma Quote
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