Big Guy Posted July 8, 2014 Report Posted July 8, 2014 A unanimous decision has again gone against the Harper government and ruled that Omar Khadr should be sentenced as a youth and go to an Ontario jail. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/omar-khadr-wins-appeal-ordered-transferred-to-provincial-jail-1.2699971 Omar Khadr should be serving his time in a provincial facility and must be transferred from federal prison, the Alberta Court of Appeal ruled Tuesday. The Harper government rep has promised to appeal the decision. When is this government going to allow this fiasco to end ASAP and get this divisive issue off the table? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
guyser Posted July 8, 2014 Report Posted July 8, 2014 I dunno But im betting we will have 20 pages and a lot of xenophobia, hes not Canadian , and a whole whack of other nonsense. Quote
Bob Macadoo Posted July 8, 2014 Report Posted July 8, 2014 I dunnoBut im betting we will have 20 pages and a lot of xenophobia, hes not Canadian , and a whole whack of other nonsense. 20 pages from Argus/Army Guy alone. Quote
Remiel Posted July 9, 2014 Report Posted July 9, 2014 If the Alberta Court of Appeal sent him to provincial then is there a court of appeal anywhere in Canada that we can think would have found otherwise? Quote
Big Guy Posted July 9, 2014 Author Report Posted July 9, 2014 I have no use for Khadr but less use for the Harper government using him as a political ploy and spending $millions of our dollars on court cases that they keep losing - and know that they are lost causes! Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
On Guard for Thee Posted July 9, 2014 Report Posted July 9, 2014 And it's about GD time something was done here. I know the Americans get their knickers in a knot when they invade a country and one of their boys gets hurt. The US likes to pride themself on being a country ruled by law but then they accept when an idiot like Bush 2 takes out a pen and declares habeous corpus does not exist in G'itmo because it's not American soil. Of course it's American soil and BTW, Bush also has been found guilty of war crimes. Why the hell isn't he in Gitmo? Quote
Topaz Posted July 9, 2014 Report Posted July 9, 2014 I've read many of the comments online from different newspapers on this and I can't believe the hatred out there for this guy. I just wonder if a westerner living overseas and came back to fight for their country and was treated the same way this guy is, what would their reaction be. IT was war, people get killed and anyone signing to the military better realize that before signing up. Are we going to have the same hatred for the Japanese or the Germans or any other country we fought against in the WW wars? I have a feeling once he gets out, that the feds will deport him under the Bill about dual citizens, and taking away his citizenship, when he hasn't done anything against Canada. Quote
eyeball Posted July 9, 2014 Report Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) Deport him where, how and with what? This stupid citizenship bill will die in the SCC like every other stupid bill they try to float. The best thing about about this mess is how it more clearly divides and polarizes Canada into a bunch of hateful sphincters and everyone else. The only means they have to get Khadr is to destroy our country as we know it. They'll basically have to tear up the Charter to do it. Edited July 9, 2014 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
jacee Posted July 11, 2014 Report Posted July 11, 2014 Omar is Canadian, no dual citizenship, can't be deported. Regardless of what we each think of him, I would hope we can agree that a rehabilitation and integration program for him (provincial) is in all of our best interests. Risk assessment, employment assessment/placement, gradual supervised release, etc. From federal solitary confinement to the street isn't a recipe for successful reintegration. Quote
jacee Posted July 11, 2014 Report Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) Deport him where, how and with what? This stupid citizenship bill will die in the SCC like every other stupid bill they try to float. Ya, no kidding: http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/#!/content/1.2699971 Françoise Boivin, the NDP's justice critic, said ... the government should think twice before seeking appeal before the Supreme Court. "The Conservative government is starting to cost us a lot of money in all their court challenges that they seem to lose one after the other," she said. Where are all those 'fiscal Conservatives' when we really need them, eh? . Edited July 11, 2014 by jacee Quote
cybercoma Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 He didn't win anything. The law is being applied as it should. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 And I understand that Harper is going to piss away a bunch more of our tax bucks taking this to the SCC. I don't mind watching him get snubed (again) but I'm getting a bit tired of paying for his dashed ego trips. Quote
eyeball Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 When is this government going to allow this fiasco to end ASAP and get this divisive issue off the table? Divisiveness is the goal. Drawing it out is the tactic. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
-1=e^ipi Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 It is important to remember that Omar Khadr is the victim not Christopher Speer. At least according to the cbc. Quote
dre Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 It is important to remember that Omar Khadr is the victim not Christopher Speer. At least according to the cbc. Neither of them are victims. They both went over there to fight of their own free will. One got killed, one got captured. Too bad so sad... who cares. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
jacee Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) Neither of them are victims. They both went over there to fight of their own free will. One got killed, one got captured. Too bad so sad... who cares.10 year olds don't get to exercise "free will".. Edited July 12, 2014 by jacee Quote
-1=e^ipi Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) Neither of them are victims. They both went over there to fight of their own free will. One got killed, one got captured. Too bad so sad... who cares. Medics that are trying to help people and get murdered aren't victims. It's clearly their fault if people murder them. Edited July 12, 2014 by -1=e^ipi Quote
dre Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 Medics that are trying to help people and get murdered aren't victims. It's clearly their fault if people murder them. Spin it how you want, if you invade a foriegn country where you are not wanted, then cruise about forcing your way into peoples homes at gunpoint then youre fair game. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
jacee Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 Medics that are trying to help people and get murdered aren't victims. It's clearly their fault if people murder them. Speer was not outfitted, assigned or acting as a medic that day, just a soldier. No one proved that Khadr threw the grenade. One US soldier said Khadr couldn't have thrown the grenade as he was injured and under a pile of debris at the time. Lets just keep the facts clear. . Quote
dre Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 10 year olds don't get to exercise "free will". . I thought he was 15 or something. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
jacee Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) I thought he was 15 or something.He was 10 when his father put him into Al Quaeda training camp.He wasn't exercising free will at 10 ... or 15. . . Edited July 12, 2014 by jacee Quote
eyeball Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 Actually he was only 8 when his indoctrination as a child soldier started. He was probably as hard pressed to tell up from down never mind right from wrong by the time he was 15. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
dre Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 He was 10 when his father put him into Al Quaeda training camp. He wasn't exercising free will at 10 ... or 15. . . In any case that doesnt really matter to me. I dont have a problem with him throwing a grenade at a foreign invasion force, regardless of how he came to be there. BTW, I think its pretty common for 15 year olds that do certain things to be treated as adults, and the "My parents encouraged it" defense only goes so far even in our own domestic courts. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
-1=e^ipi Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 I thought he was 15 or something. He was 15 years and 10 months old. And actually, according to the UN convention on the rights of the child, this is old enough to be recruited into armed conflict and not be considered a child soldier. Obviously, I don't care what the UN thinks, but you guys do. Quote
-1=e^ipi Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 Spin it how you want, if you invade a foriegn country where you are not wanted, then cruise about forcing your way into peoples homes at gunpoint then youre fair game. Yeah, because invading Afganistan was totally unprovoked... Quote
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