Big Guy Posted May 28, 2014 Report Posted May 28, 2014 John McKay, Liberal MP in the Liberal party was just "recorded" as referring to his leader, Justin Trudeau, as a Bozo. The content of that should and will be debated on another thread in this section. The reporter breaking that story admitted that the recording was taken secretly of a private conversation but in a "public" venue. We have recently had a number of "gotcha" recordings made public - recordings that were made without the knowledge of both participants. From Mitt Romney's “47% video”, to Donald Sterling's taped racist phone call and now John McKay speaking “off the record” but being recorded as criticizing Trudeau. http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/bozo-eruption-liberal-mp-secretly-recorded-slamming-trudeau-s-abortion-stance-1.1839528 The ability to record what someone is doing and saying in private is increasing every year with the exponential evolution of communications technology. It is probably now possible to record what someone is doing and saying in their bedrooms. What is the level of designation of “celebrity” or “public figure” or “important participant” who can be targeted for secret recordings? Is it fair or productive or informative or correct or ... to record a private conversation without the knowledge of all participants? Should there be restrictions? What should they be? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Moonlight Graham Posted May 28, 2014 Report Posted May 28, 2014 That's a really good topic for debate. I'll have to give it some thought... Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
jacee Posted May 28, 2014 Report Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) Should we start with what the laws are? US ... depends ... http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/recording-phone-calls-and-conversations Canada ... Yes ... IF you are a party to the conversation ... http://www.winningcourtstrategies.com/divorces-in-canada/tape-recording-a-conversation-legal-or-illegal-canada/ And Yes if you are eavesdropping where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy. http://www.legaltree.ca/node/908 Edited May 28, 2014 by Charles Anthony deleted quote that re-copied Opening Post Quote
GostHacked Posted May 28, 2014 Report Posted May 28, 2014 A politician upset that someone secretly recorded his conversation? But yet support the eavesdropping on the rest of Canadians? That never happens, right? Quote
cybercoma Posted May 28, 2014 Report Posted May 28, 2014 Hey, remember when Vic Toews personal information was legally accessed and he flipped out then quit politics? Those were good times. Quote
Boges Posted May 28, 2014 Report Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) Good analysis of Gotcha culture by Bill Maher. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxwRqQNDUSs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxwRqQNDUSs Edited May 28, 2014 by Boges Quote
GostHacked Posted May 28, 2014 Report Posted May 28, 2014 Hey, remember when Vic Toews personal information was legally accessed and he flipped out then quit politics? Those were good times. Once you turn the cameras in on them, they simply freak out. And that information was already public information on Toews, so nothing illegal was done to obtain that information. But yet he cried like a school girl and left politics. The level of integrity in our leaders needs to be just a bit higher than what it currently is. Quote
GostHacked Posted May 28, 2014 Report Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) Playback on this website was disabled by user Boges. Good clip though. Edited May 28, 2014 by GostHacked Quote
Remiel Posted June 3, 2014 Report Posted June 3, 2014 Offhand I would argue the Romney incident is quite unlike the Sterling one, at very least. I am not sure how like it is to the McKay one. Romney was at a clearly political function giving a clearly political speech. It was not a private conversation per se, it was a targeted public one. Quote
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