cybercoma Posted May 10, 2014 Report Posted May 10, 2014 US marines have located the girls, apparently. Now it's just a matter of freeing them, and dealing with the Boko Harams in an appropriate manner. I think a wood-chipper and manure-spreader would be suitable. -k My suggestion looks more like a RHNB video from the carsandwater YouTube channel. Quote
cybercoma Posted May 10, 2014 Report Posted May 10, 2014 If this were a man, he'd be completely disqualified from even thinking about running for president.what a ridiculous comment. Quote
jbg Posted May 10, 2014 Report Posted May 10, 2014 To blame Islam or Islamism for their acts is basically saying that all Muslims believe what these guys believe is okay to do. That's the kind of stunted argument that semi-literates try to pass, in order to feed the hatred and their agenda.What other groups believe in such radical dehumanization of females? They believe that females are sex, abuse and pregnancy toys and that's it. It's an uncivilized belief. It's as ridiculous as blaming the actions of Lev Tahor and Kahane on Orthodox Judaism.Jewish condemnation of Kahane and the JDL was constant among mainstream Jews. Where is the public condemnation of the repeated, pervasive and horrid outrages such as this? Here is some information on the Mohammed Yusuf, the founder of group: Dr. Ahmad Murtada of the Islamic Studies Department, University of Bayero, Kano has noted in his research into Mohammed Yusuf and Boko Haram that when the Muslim Brotherhood movement in Nigeria arose, known as "Yan Brothers" and under the leadership of Ibrahim Zakzaky, Yusuf joined the Muslim Brotherhood. When the "Yan Brothers" movement split, an organisation emphasising the Prophetic Sunnah emerged known as "Izala ul-Bida wa Iqamat us-Sunnah" [Removing Religious Innovation and Establishing the Prophetic Sunnah] and Yusuf was part of this movement for a while. A split then occurred among three mosques which served as the administrative centres of the movement, and Yusuf and his students and followers then set up their own movement known as "Jama'at Ahl us-Sunnah li'd-Da'wah wa'l-Jihad" [The Group of the People of Sunnah for Preaching and Jihad], which would lay the basis for the formation of Boko Haram. The movement is therefore repudiated by many adherents of the Salafi tradition in Nigeria. According to the University of California at Santa Cruz's Paul Lubeck, Yusuf received instruction in Salafism and was strongly influenced by Ibn Taymiyyah. In a 2009 BBC interview, Yusuf stated his belief that the concept of a spherical Earth is contrary to Islamic teaching and should be rejected, along with Darwinian evolution, and the concept of rain originating from water evaporated by the sun. I am glad to know that there is a gibberish split. I cannot understand what this guy has written and I am not sure that you or many other people can. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Argus Posted May 10, 2014 Report Posted May 10, 2014 Hillary's gonna have a lot to explain if she runs from president. First is her so-called Russian reset. Second is Benghazi. Third is now not declaring this group a terrorist organization. She has a heck of a record as Secretary of State doesn't she? If this were a man, he'd be completely disqualified from even thinking about running for president. Nobody thinks its Hillary's job to fight terrorists in Nigeria, and nobody but lunatic Republicans cares about Benghazi. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Shady Posted May 10, 2014 Report Posted May 10, 2014 Nobody thinks its Hillary's job to fight terrorists in Nigeria, and nobody but lunatic Republicans cares about Benghazi. I disagree. Yes, her job isn't to fight terrorists, but that's not what we're talking about. The state department, her state department refused to designate said group as a terrorist organization. The question will be why not? In terms of Benghazi, again, why did her department ignore the security requests of a now murdered diplomat? Why did she send somebody else out afterwards to explain it? Why did she blame it on a YouTube video? And then of course the illustrious Russian reset. Why did she blame the deteriorating relationship on the previous administration, and not the real perpetrator Vladimir Putin? Why did she not understand what he was really about when even a rube like Mitt Romney warned of him? See, no lunacy required. Just legitimate adult questions for somebody that probably wants to be president. Somebody that ran 3am phone call political ads against the current president, but then failed to answer any of then herself as Secretary of State. Quote
Argus Posted May 10, 2014 Report Posted May 10, 2014 I disagree. Yes, her job isn't to fight terrorists, but that's not what we're talking about. The state department, her state department refused to designate said group as a terrorist organization. The question will be why not? In terms of Benghazi, again, why did her department ignore the security requests of a now murdered diplomat? Why did she send somebody else out afterwards to explain it? Why did she blame it on a YouTube video? And then of course the illustrious Russian reset. Why did she blame the deteriorating relationship on the previous administration, and not the real perpetrator Vladimir Putin? Why did she not understand what he was really about when even a rube like Mitt Romney warned of him? See, no lunacy required. Just legitimate adult questions for somebody that probably wants to be president. Somebody that ran 3am phone call political ads against the current president, but then failed to answer any of then herself as Secretary of State. This is all just babbletalk that nobody outside the beltway and FOXs rabid viewers gives a rats ass about. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Shady Posted May 10, 2014 Report Posted May 10, 2014 This is all just babbletalk that nobody outside the beltway and FOXs rabid viewers gives a rats ass about. I guess that's easier than actually addressing the issues. Just pretend they don't exist, and won't come up at all with significance during a presidential campaign. Maybe Putin will be yesterdays news by then. I'm sure Hillary hopes so. Quote
Argus Posted May 10, 2014 Report Posted May 10, 2014 I guess that's easier than actually addressing the issues. Just pretend they don't exist, and won't come up at all with significance during a presidential campaign. Maybe Putin will be yesterdays news by then. I'm sure Hillary hopes so. Americans don't care. It's back and forth BS. The Repubs will say Hillary didn't take security seriously enough. The Demo will point out the Republicans cut the budget for State Dept Security. The Repubs will hold up emails yelling "Ahah!" and the demos will quote CBS forever saying "Republicans lied about emails and changed the quotes". Shit happens, and sometimes there is no grand conspiracy behind it. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Hudson Jones Posted May 11, 2014 Report Posted May 11, 2014 What other groups believe in such radical dehumanization of females? They believe that females are sex, abuse and pregnancy toys and that's it. It's an uncivilized belief. They don't represent Islam. Stop pretending that they do. They represent themselves. People are not as stupid as you think. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
jbg Posted May 11, 2014 Report Posted May 11, 2014 They don't represent Islam. Stop pretending that they do. They represent themselves. People are not as stupid as you think. Where are the leading Islamic spokesmen in condemning this savagery then? Oops, I know the answer. Busy condemning Israel. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
bleeding heart Posted May 11, 2014 Report Posted May 11, 2014 What are you talking about? Do a Google search, and you'll get plenty of them, immediately and without effort. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
cybercoma Posted May 11, 2014 Report Posted May 11, 2014 Hell, even Al Qaeda condemned it in a way. Quote
jbg Posted May 12, 2014 Report Posted May 12, 2014 What are you talking about? Do a Google search, and you'll get plenty of them, immediately and without effort. Hell, even Al Qaeda condemned it in a way.Show me, and I guarantee the condemnation is equivocal, or some mealy-mouth statement that kidnapping is inconsistent with Islam. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Hudson Jones Posted May 12, 2014 Report Posted May 12, 2014 (edited) Show me, and I guarantee the condemnation is equivocal, or some mealy-mouth statement that kidnapping is inconsistent with Islam. You are an embarrassment. Here is a google search. Click on it and read what comes up. Here are the top 5 responses: Muslims Of Nigeria Denounce and Condemn Boko Haram muslimsagainstterror.com/muslims-of-nigeria-denounce-and-condemn-b... We the Muslims of Nigeria hereby, unambiguously condemn in the strongest terms, the Boko Haram terrorists. Boko Haram are not our brothers, we reject to ... Muslim Leaders Slam Boko Haram For Using Islam To ...www.huffingtonpost.com/.../muslim-leaders-slam-boko-haram-islam_n_...4 days ago - Muslim leaders in various countries have criticized Boko Haram's leader ... Wednesday condemning the Boko Haram leader for "wrongly" citing ... Boko Haram Are Not Muslims but the Enemy of All Muslims ... www.huffingtonpost.com/.../boko-haram-are-not-muslim_b_52... by Azeem Ibrahim - in 136 Google+ circles 3 days ago - Our priority must be to find the girls. We should also denounce Boko Haram as extremists peddling a false notion of religion. I'd go further than ... Muslim scholars condemn Boko Haram's 'heinous' acts ... www.arabnews.com/news/567611Arab News 4 days ago - Boko Haram leader Abubakar Shekau is shown in this file image made taken from video posted by Boko Haram sympathizers on the Internet. Top Saudi cleric condemns Boko Haram over kidnapping of ... www.theguardian.com › News › World news › Boko HaramThe Guardian 3 days ago - Saudi Arabia's grand mufti has condemned Nigeria's Boko Haram for its ... His remarks came as religious leaders in the Muslim world, who ... Edited May 13, 2014 by Hudson Jones Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
jbg Posted May 13, 2014 Report Posted May 13, 2014 If she runs FROM president, she would be greeted with waving hands. Actually, Benghazi and Russia are down the list some. Because first we had Whitewater and Valarie Plame scandals. Then there is even the Lewinski thing not overall a bit deal, but more of a nod to her deidcation to a womanizing liar. Showing what kind of integrity she really has. I am sure if we dig a bit more we can find a lot more on her! You left out a big one; Travelgate. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Argus Posted May 13, 2014 Report Posted May 13, 2014 They don't represent Islam. Stop pretending that they do. They represent themselves. People are not as stupid as you think. 90% of girls in Egypt have their clitorises removed so they do not experience lust. What do you call that? Are all Egyptians extremists? How many people have to feel the same way before you stop thinking it's rare? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Rue Posted May 14, 2014 Report Posted May 14, 2014 Well now. The same poster, Hudson Jones who in the past never missed an opportunity to suggest anyone who is a Zionist is an extremist now says, don't engage in generalizations. Uh yah. The fact is Muslim extremists kidnapped these girls. The fact is Muslim extremism is at the root cause of this incident. The fact is we should not point out they are Muslim extremists is illogical. The fact is no these extremists do not reflect the beliefs of other Muslims but then I am saying this to who-Hudson Jones who has printed numerous comments on this board making negative generalizations about anyone who supports the right of Israel to exist-someone who referred to Zionism as a cancerous tumour? Please. Spare me the selectivity in this issue. Also are the same people calling for Canadian troops the same people who scream about Canada going into Afghanistan and acting like colonialists? Say now how does that work. Do I see the same people who scream Canada has an army now screaming they want it to march into Nigeria? Lol. Give m a friggin break. Quote
Army Guy Posted May 14, 2014 Report Posted May 14, 2014 Canadian Spec ops units operating in nigeria. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canada-moves-in-to-nigeria-to-aid-in-search-for-kidnapped-girls/article18653370/ Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
monty16 Posted May 14, 2014 Report Posted May 14, 2014 No one will dare blame the problem on Islamism. Change the word 'aboriginals' to 'Islamics' in the post for which you just commended me on another thread, and then try it again here. And now I'll ask the question of you, was it a heartfelt commendation or was it sarcasm? And I will just add to that, we can no more blame Christianity for what the US did to Iraq on false pretences than we can blame Islam for the revenge attack on 911. Quote
monty16 Posted May 14, 2014 Report Posted May 14, 2014 Canadian Spec ops units operating in nigeria. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canada-moves-in-to-nigeria-to-aid-in-search-for-kidnapped-girls/article18653370/ No, Canada shouldn't have troops there. The downside that is the slippery slope of occupation of another country far outweighs the possible good it can do. We must not contribute to giving the US licence to trod all over the world with it's armed forces on any pretence it chooses is in the name of good. In the real world outside of propaganda, what is good in the eyes of the US, as often as not turns out to be good only for their own country. Harper is making Canada synonymous with the US and it's interventions and aggression throughout the world. That is going to become a real problem in ther future when it possibly comes home with the chickens. Quote
Army Guy Posted May 14, 2014 Report Posted May 14, 2014 And what if Nigeria asked for assistance. Nobody ever said anything about an occupation, our military forces and other western nations are there to provide assistance at the Nigerian government request... Sticking our heads in the sand is going to accomplish what exactly....you think this guy in nigeria won't attack Canadians, given the chance he'll be cutting heads off just like the rest of those scumbags. Well thats what happens when you stand behind big brother,and depend on him for everything..... when we can stand alone as a nation and defend our own then you can start throwing rocks at big brother...but i don't see that in the future... Don't kid yourself, being Canadian or waving the canadian flag on your back pack will not save you, that boat has left the docks years ago. when they say they have an axe to grind with the west that includes Canada. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Topaz Posted May 14, 2014 Report Posted May 14, 2014 I hope those drones flying over can find those girls, maybe they will also find the missing plane, wouldn't that be interesting. Quote
jbg Posted May 15, 2014 Report Posted May 15, 2014 And now I'll ask the question of you, was it a heartfelt commendation or was it sarcasm?I'm not sure what the "it" is in your question. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
GostHacked Posted May 15, 2014 Report Posted May 15, 2014 You left out a big one; Travelgate. I am sure there are more I left out. She must have a lot of help to carry around all that baggage. Quote
GostHacked Posted May 15, 2014 Report Posted May 15, 2014 And what if Nigeria asked for assistance. Nobody ever said anything about an occupation, our military forces and other western nations are there to provide assistance at the Nigerian government request... If Nigeria reached out and asked for help and they got it. I do not think that is a big deal. Sticking our heads in the sand is going to accomplish what exactly....you think this guy in nigeria won't attack Canadians, given the chance he'll be cutting heads off just like the rest of those scumbags. Did they get that other badass terror warrior, Kony yet?? Our collective heads are in the sand anyways. Supporting head cutting rebels in Syria, Libya, and Ukraine, helping destabilize entire nations. No, that laundry is not aired. But a nice feel good operation like saving these girls is good PR for western nations. The western nations are not seen as aggressors here. It is simply coming to the aide of a nation that asked for assistance. With that out of the way. There are a lot of international oil interests in Nigeria and other parts of Africa. And if this badass dude is threatening that interest. Then you can bet that bodies and guns will be sent in. Even without the call for assistance. Well thats what happens when you stand behind big brother,and depend on him for everything..... when we can stand alone as a nation and defend our own then you can start throwing rocks at big brother...but i don't see that in the future... Big brother's budget has been almost half of the global military output in the past decade or so. I have a feeling they will feel a Soviet economic collapse due to overspending on the military. If we can rely less on the US as well as cutting the monarch ties to Britain, then we can start to consider ourselves a grown up nation. But simply Canada does not have the economic power to produce a military that can start to project force within our borders, so forget about international waters. I am also starting to see that the multinational supra-national international corps (along with the military industrial complex) are the big brother and not so much just the US or the government. Might as well throw the corrupt bankers who are financing both sides at the same time. Not like THAT has ever happened before. Don't kid yourself, being Canadian or waving the canadian flag on your back pack will not save you, that boat has left the docks years ago. when they say they have an axe to grind with the west that includes Canada. Well our leaders have not exactly been nice about things either. I think the grind is legit, and until our leaders are going to tell us everything they did wrong and how they lied to us every step of the way, that grind will continue. The lies about WMDs in Iraq, causing many deaths, is a legitimate axe to grind. And was absolute proof the government lied along with the complicit help of the media to go along with the whole charade. This played out in the US, Canada, UK and abroad. Quote
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