Smallc Posted April 22, 2014 Report Posted April 22, 2014 That the protest did nothing and was out of place. That it was opportunistic and inconsiderate. That no one should really be applauding this woman because she took away from one good cause (there is an epidemic of homeless animals in Canada causing a public health issue) in order to bring attention to her cause (an important one - very important) but managed to generate a large amount of negative press. Quote
cybercoma Posted April 22, 2014 Report Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) That the protest did nothing and was out of place.I disagree. It did enough to get us talking about it for 9+ pages now. Also the media not only picked up the story but actually went to some depth to explain why she was protesting, which is not at all the norm. That it was opportunistic and inconsiderate.I agree with you, but that's what makes it a protest. I'm trying to find common ground with you here because I generally respect you and may have been a bit short with you in these last couple of threads. But I'm finding it hard. That no one should really be applauding this woman because she took away from one good cause (there is an epidemic of homeless animals in Canada causing a public health issue) in order to bring attention to her cause (an important one - very important) but managed to generate a large amount of negative press.I disagree with you here again. I highly doubt any of us would have heard a thing about Mrs. Harper's cat cause, if it wasn't for the protest hitting the news. Otherwise, Mrs. Harper's appearance would have been buried in the news. Edited April 22, 2014 by cybercoma Quote
PIK Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) sRemiel makes a good point. Frankly, I think protesting Laureen Harper was stupid, but at least it got indigenous women the attention they need. Why was it stupid? Well, it reinforces the idea that the Prime Minister makes policy when he's supposed to be a "first among equals." It reinforces the consolidation of power in the PMO that has been happening for a generation now. Should be about all missing women not just one group. Edited April 23, 2014 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
PIK Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 Not just to me, to common decency. There was nothing to be gained there. Laureen couldn't answer her questions. The hysteria of the left knows no bounds and it is quite frankly getting tiresome. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
WWWTT Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 Personally I think protesting a Laureen Harper event is actually injurious to the public: it promotes the idea that the spouse of the PM has some sort of role vis-a-vis public policy and debate. And formally they absolutely should not. This incident is a kind of a bizarre counter-point to the insistence on a meeting with the Governor General last year. I think your reason is stretching too far. This was a protest to bring attention to a cause that someone feels strongly about. There could be a number of reasons why this event was chosen. Could be for the simple fact that convenience for the protestor played a role in all of this. Or that security measures made it easier. Or maybe tickets to attend are more accessible. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Bob Macadoo Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 Another entertaing detail.....this was the online cat video festival....where they screen youtube videos of cats to a bunch of elites......nice. Again how much did the security detail for this shindig cost? Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 The hysteria of the left knows no bounds and it is quite frankly getting tiresome. What exactly does this mean? I have no clue what you are talking about so how can anyone debate this response. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Bob Macadoo Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 I've got an organization she can help fundraise for; http://www.nationalantidrugstrategy.gc.ca/prevention/youth-jeunes/index.html after all charity begins at home. Quote
Smallc Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 How many charities do you personally speak on behalf of? Quote
WWWTT Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 I've got an organization she can help fundraise for; http://www.nationalantidrugstrategy.gc.ca/prevention/youth-jeunes/index.html after all charity begins at home. LOL! Nancy Reagan. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 The hysteria of the left knows no bounds and it is quite frankly getting tiresome. Ya that sucks when someone uses your own "secret weapon" against you hey! http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEVvj1WFhTwygA.j4XFwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTBybnV2cXQwBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMgRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1398327669/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.conservative.ca%2f%3fpage_id%3d25/RK=0/RS=PhePUaP4j9S82ZV4P7plyQ4ATLQ- I remember when George W Bush was parading his daughters around to win votes, and then when one of his daughters had an alcohol issue, he started crying like a big baby about the press and the public, saying it was none of their business what happens in his family! Big freekin babies crying about how it's not fair for people to use their family members for their own gain! I seriously believe the conservatives never look in the mirror, once! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
cybercoma Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 What exactly does this mean? I have no clue what you are talking about so how can anyone debate this response.PIK likes to make irrational and insulting statements about the Left in general. That's why he tends to be ignored. Quote
waldo Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 I don't get the Post - only the Star and the Sun - so I can get both sides of the political spectrum. But you're right - the Post article is just as bad as the Star. PS: I was in error - the Star article was on page 6 - not page 2 as previously posted. so... will you be amending your thread title to spread your "shameful" designation to also include the National Post? Quote
PIK Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 Ya that sucks when someone uses your own "secret weapon" against you hey! http://ri.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEVvj1WFhTwygA.j4XFwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTBybnV2cXQwBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMgRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1398327669/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.conservative.ca%2f%3fpage_id%3d25/RK=0/RS=PhePUaP4j9S82ZV4P7plyQ4ATLQ- I remember when George W Bush was parading his daughters around to win votes, and then when one of his daughters had an alcohol issue, he started crying like a big baby about the press and the public, saying it was none of their business what happens in his family! Big freekin babies crying about how it's not fair for people to use their family members for their own gain! I seriously believe the conservatives never look in the mirror, once! WWWTT Geo Bush lol give your head a shake. Not even close.Consevatives up here resemble the democrats , where the left up here is waaaay out to lunch. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
PIK Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 PIK likes to make irrational and insulting statements about the Left in general. That's why he tends to be ignored.Give it but can't take it. Boo Hoo. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
WWWTT Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 Geo Bush lol give your head a shake. Not even close.Consevatives up here resemble the democrats , where the left up here is waaaay out to lunch. Wouldn't think that when the subject turns to the EMS being called to 24 Sussex and Rob Ford hey! Either way, we are not going to be hearing much from the "white picket fence" family much anymore now that a teenager almost died from alcohol poisoning consumed at the PM house! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
PIK Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Wouldn't think that when the subject turns to the EMS being called to 24 Sussex and Rob Ford hey! Either way, we are not going to be hearing much from the "white picket fence" family much anymore now that a teenager almost died from alcohol poisoning consumed at the PM house! WWWTT Kids will be kids. But then again since you are a supporter of the NDP and believe that all kids should be bubble wrapped, this would offend you. Ben had a party and a girl drank to much and got sick. She learnt her lesson. Lessons of life that need to be learned instead of sending young adults out into the world with no idea what is ahead of them because they have been proertected from real life by government nannies. Theses poor protected kids are going to have a hell of a life, not knowing anything about the dangers lurking out there . I pity this generation of kids, they are in for a huge surprise. Let me guess , you never had got sick from drinking as a kid? Edited April 24, 2014 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
bleeding heart Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 Actually, it's those who support unnecessary and outmoded "tough on crime" bills who are the nanny-state, "think of the children" bubble-wrappers. Just as a corrective to your assertion. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
waldo Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 Actually, it's those who support unnecessary and outmoded "tough on crime" bills who are the nanny-state, "think of the children" bubble-wrappers. did someone call for the Harper Conservative Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada? Kids will be kids... but, apparently, the toughness only applies to 'the weed' and doesn't seem to extend to include 'beer bongs': Quote
WWWTT Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 Kids will be kids. But then again since you are a supporter of the NDP and believe that all kids should be bubble wrapped, this would offend you. Ben had a party and a girl drank to much and got sick. She learnt her lesson. Lessons of life that need to be learned instead of sending young adults out into the world with no idea what is ahead of them because they have been proertected from real life by government nannies. Theses poor protected kids are going to have a hell of a life, not knowing anything about the dangers lurking out there . I pity this generation of kids, they are in for a huge surprise. Let me guess , you never had got sick from drinking as a kid? LOL! Man has the conservatives really changed their tune to protect what happened at the PM's house! Sure I got sick from alcohol! Never had to be rushed to the hospital! Also, I never lived at 24 SUSSEX! Does that even resonate with you? If the PM is just an anybody, then lets replace Harper with a temporary foreign worker! I'm sure we can find a temporary foreign worker that understands the meaning of raising a responsible family! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
cybercoma Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 Actually, it's those who support unnecessary and outmoded "tough on crime" bills who are the nanny-state, "think of the children" bubble-wrappers. Just as a corrective to your assertion. You'll notice here PIK that bleeding heart didn't say "The Right" in his response. That's the difference between you and other posters. Whereas you just insulted everyone on the left with your post, bleeding heart was criticizing a particular policy. Quote
bleeding heart Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 Oh, some folks here are forever going on about "the left," and it's tiresome to try to suss out any meaning or relevance to it. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
Remiel Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 In normal polite society when children have a party featuring underage drinking do we view the host parents as responsible regardless of whether they sanctioned the particular behaviour? Quote
WWWTT Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Sorry I contributed to the drifting of this thread. I thought this thread was about the Laureen Harper cat charity that was protested? And the reporting of it. Not the drinking or EMS going to 24 Sussex. Somehow I got them mixed up while replying to a notification. WWWTT Edited April 24, 2014 by WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 Well here we go. For those who thought that Laureen was off limits, guess again! http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/05/16/laureen-harper/ WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
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