BubberMiley Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Why do you care what Quebec does to protect their heritage. Seriously, does it impact your personal lifestyle that much?It affects all Canadians. We are all Canadians, including those who pretend otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 It affects all Canadians. We are all Canadians, including those who pretend otherwise. My point is that if Quebec wants to enforce marketing materials for businesses to be in english and french regardless of the media format, why is that a bother to Canadians. They already have this law on the books, they are just extending it to digital. Why the uproar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 It affects all Canadians. We are all Canadians, including those who pretend otherwise.I deeply appreciate your turning me into an honorary Canadian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 How don't you, unless you don't pay taxes.I looked at all my returns and submitted monies, none of them say 'for quebec's language police" Funny thing that huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 I looked at all my returns and submitted monies, none of them say 'for quebec's language police" Funny thing that huh? I don't think your returns say "Equalization" or "Bombardier" either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 I don't think your returns say "Equalization" or "Bombardier" either.Correct, I suppose you have a point to make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Correct, I suppose you have a point to make? You pay for them regardless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 You pay for them regardless... No, no I dont. Neither do you or anyone else outside of Quebec. Been over this thing a hundred times in other threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 I deeply appreciate your turning me into an honorary Canadian. I think he was referring to Quebec Separatists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 You know. . . if any other western culture wanted to "preserve heritage" it would be labeled xenophobic and/or racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 You know. . . if any other western culture wanted to "preserve heritage" it would be labeled xenophobic and/or racist. Hardly. Only if the actions to preserve a culture are actually was racist or xenophobic. And often Quebec (politicians/separtists) have certainly been racist and/or xenophobic. But the goal of preserving culture does not automatically make it so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderfish Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 You know. . . if any other western culture wanted to "preserve heritage" it would be labeled xenophobic and/or racist. Not necessarily. The recent case of the native student violating the scent policy in a school in MB because he was smudging before class shows that you can be labeled racist for not accommodating cultural preservation and heritage. I think society has deemed it acceptable for minorities to preserve heritage, but it seems less acceptable for non-minorities. This double standard may have to do with trying to "level the playing field", or may be an effort to enforce the perception of multiculturalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) Not necessarily. The recent case of the native student violating the scent policy in a school in MB because he was smudging before class shows that you can be labeled racist for not accommodating cultural preservation and heritage. I think society has deemed it acceptable for minorities to preserve heritage, but it seems less acceptable for non-minorities. This double standard may have to do with trying to "level the playing field", or may be an effort to enforce the perception of multiculturalism. You do know that "non-minorities" don't need to preserve their culture since they are the dominant culture and are not in need of the same preserving, right? LOL Edited March 3, 2014 by The_Squid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 The Francophone seems to be the dominant culture in Quebec. So trying to stamp out use of English and other languages does seem xenophobic. As said in my OP, trying to legislate the use of English as opposed to Chinese in Ontario would be labeled as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderfish Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 You do know that "non-minorities" don't need to preserve their culture since they are the dominant culture and are not in need of the same preserving, right? LOL Celebrating and preserving heritage should be something that all cultures are afforded, and not discouraged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Celebrating and preserving heritage should be something that all cultures are afforded, and not discouraged. Not through legislation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderfish Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Not through legislation. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Hardly. Only if the actions to preserve a culture are actually was racist or xenophobic. And often Quebec (politicians/separtists) have certainly been racist and/or xenophobic. But the goal of preserving culture does not automatically make it so. Can you mouth the words "Boer culture" in South Africa? Not saying I support apartheid but just pointing out one example. The other example is the desire of the "Zionists" to preserve Jewish culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter F Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) JBG: I don't think your returns say "Equalization" or "Bombardier" either My return doesn't say "buoys on Lake Simcoe" either. Edited March 4, 2014 by Peter F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 JBG: My return doesn't say "buoys on Lake Simcoe" either. Is Lake Simcoe in Quebec? I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westguy Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 the ROC indirectly subsidizes Quebed thru $8Byr worth of transfer payments. which is, in itself, very unfair to the ROC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) No, that's not unfair, as the program exists for everyone. For the record though, Quebec is a net benefactor to the tune of $16.3B that they'd be without as an independent country. Edited March 17, 2014 by Smallc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 No, that's not unfair, as the program exists for everyone. For the record though, Quebec is a net benefactor to the tune of $16.3B that they'd be without as an independent country.Will the PQ explain that in their referendum ads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westguy Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I doubt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 No, that's not unfair, as the program exists for everyone. For the record though, Quebec is a net benefactor to the tune of $16.3B that they'd be without as an independent country. smallc, Question #1 How much does Quebec, Quebecers, Quebec Corporations Pay directly to the Federal Government in terms of Income tax Personal Tax Corporation Tax Mining and Logging Tax Consumption tax General Sales Tax (Yes its a different category and not the same) Gasoline and Motorfuel Tax Payroll taxes Natural resource Tax and Licencing Investment Income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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